Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics

[BitterJim]

Okafor went for about 12, 4, 1, and 1 block in less than 23 minutes a game with over 51% shooting on a bad knee and he's 21.

The year before that when he was 20 and healthy his stats were 17 and 7

If Tatum goes for 12, 4, and 1 this year on 51% shooting people will throw him a parade. Same for Zizic

There is a significant deference between putting up decent stats as a rookie on a top 2 team in the conference and putting up those same stats as a sophomore on a team that's closer to the best lottery odds than the 8 seed

[moiso]

i officially do not understand how the cap thing works. first don't have room for a max deal, than we clear space to get that room, and then we sign another FA, not named Hayward to a 4.3 mil deal...
can someone please explain

we will sign him after hayward with probably the room exception.

what does the room exception mean exactly?

Sounds kinda made up, doesn't it?   We don't hear about that one by name very often.

[hwangjini_1]

Okafor went for about 12, 4, 1, and 1 block in less than 23 minutes a game with over 51% shooting on a bad knee and he's 21.

The year before that when he was 20 and healthy his stats were 17 and 7

If Tatum goes for 12, 4, and 1 this year on 51% shooting people will throw him a parade. Same for Zizic

There is a significant deference between putting up decent stats as a rookie on a top 2 team in the conference and putting up those same stats as a sophomore on a team that's closer to the best lottery odds than the 8 seed

also add in that tatum will get his points from a variety of places on the court, not just within 5 feet. so that stretches the floor for the rest of the offense.

in addition, tatum will play defense, which okafur does not.

[Moranis]

Okafor went for about 12, 4, 1, and 1 block in less than 23 minutes a game with over 51% shooting on a bad knee and he's 21.

The year before that when he was 20 and healthy his stats were 17 and 7

If Tatum goes for 12, 4, and 1 this year on 51% shooting people will throw him a parade. Same for Zizic

There is a significant deference between putting up decent stats as a rookie on a top 2 team in the conference and putting up those same stats as a sophomore on a team that's closer to the best lottery odds than the 8 seed

not really.

[Chris22]

I like that we signed a man mountain.
Ainge got the memo that we were too small and too weak last year.

[ederson]

Okafor went for about 12, 4, 1, and 1 block in less than 23 minutes a game with over 51% shooting on a bad knee and he's 21.

The year before that when he was 20 and healthy his stats were 17 and 7

If Tatum goes for 12, 4, and 1 this year on 51% shooting people will throw him a parade. Same for Zizic

There is a significant deference between putting up decent stats as a rookie on a top 2 team in the conference and putting up those same stats as a sophomore on a team that's closer to the best lottery odds than the 8 seed

not really.

You think is the same thing?

[Boris Badenov]

Among guys playing 1000 minutes, Baynes was:

#3 in the NBA in "screen assists" per minute;

#4 (tied) in the NBA in charges taken per minute;

#12 in the NBA in contested 2PT shots per minute

Those are very impressive "little things" that help win games.

Analytics prattle.  The market for him tells us more about who he is.

The analytics are data, with advantages and limitations for their specific purposes. The data Roy presented are informative, and there are other positive things that Baynes does on the court. The Pistons were 10 points better with him on the court defensively last year, for example.

Also, the notion of "the market" is a bit murky right now. It seems that we are seeing a rebound effect from last summer. There are players who, like Baynes, have ended up signing for less than a player option they turned down.

Baynes turned down a $6.5 million option, and then went with the Cs because he wanted to get minutes on a contender. He had offers from other teams.

It's entirely possible that last year he would have gotten $10 million per year and a longer contract, given what was happening then.

So, I think the idea that he's not good because it's a down market this year is unjustified.

As always it'll be a question of fit, but if he gives us 15 solid mpg next year with good defense and rebounding, and knocks people around a bit, then that will have filled exactly our biggest remaining roster need.

[moiso]

Okafor went for about 12, 4, 1, and 1 block in less than 23 minutes a game with over 51% shooting on a bad knee and he's 21.

The year before that when he was 20 and healthy his stats were 17 and 7

If Tatum goes for 12, 4, and 1 this year on 51% shooting people will throw him a parade. Same for Zizic

There is a significant deference between putting up decent stats as a rookie on a top 2 team in the conference and putting up those same stats as a sophomore on a team that's closer to the best lottery odds than the 8 seed

not really.

What does Michael Carter Williams think of this?

[CelticsElite]

Okafor is trash.

[BostonClamCrowdah]

Okafor is trash.

And so is Baynes

[fairweatherfan]

Okafor is trash.

And so is Baynes

Baynes is a limited role player who makes his team better. 

Okafor is a talented "star" player who makes his team worse.

[fairweatherfan]

Among guys playing 1000 minutes, Baynes was:

#3 in the NBA in "screen assists" per minute;

#4 (tied) in the NBA in charges taken per minute;

#12 in the NBA in contested 2PT shots per minute

Those are very impressive "little things" that help win games.

I'm sold on the screening + rebounding alone.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Among guys playing 1000 minutes, Baynes was:

#3 in the NBA in "screen assists" per minute;

#4 (tied) in the NBA in charges taken per minute;

#12 in the NBA in contested 2PT shots per minute

Those are very impressive "little things" that help win games.

I'm sold on the screening + rebounding alone.

He is actually what we need on our team. Anyone who thinks this signing is bad has never played the game.
Everyone will have more open shots with Mr. Baynes on the team. 

[Snakehead]

Among guys playing 1000 minutes, Baynes was:

#3 in the NBA in "screen assists" per minute;

#4 (tied) in the NBA in charges taken per minute;

#12 in the NBA in contested 2PT shots per minute

Those are very impressive "little things" that help win games.

I'm sold on the screening + rebounding alone.

He is actually what we need on our team. Anyone who thinks this signing is bad has never played the game.
Everyone will have more open shots with Mr. Baynes on the team. 

Yeah.  The team needs a screener and rebounder.  His rebounding numbers I think are pretty good especially for 4 mill.  We are paying him half what we payed Zeller and I like his fit much more for the team.

He will probably start but not play a ton of minutes.  I like Al at C and small ball like other people but Stevens likes to start big and it matches up well with centers.  You can force things small as the game goes along.

 I like it a lot though.  I am high on Baynes for this year.  Between him and Zizic we will have two dirty work guys to put in at C.

[Eddie20]

Coulda had Jahil Okafor. Instead we got this 31 year old

Eja, aren't you happy we did?