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Love or hate Bradley trade

Love it
42 (33.1%)
Hate it
17 (13.4%)
Mixed
68 (53.5%)

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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 05:02:42 PM »

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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 05:04:16 PM »

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This poll is interesting, from all the thread topic names I got the sense that everyone hated it, but the poll results trend towards the opposite. Here is why I love it.

1. I expected the trade to be a lot worse: Every team knew we had to deal one of Smart, Crowder or Bradley which had to have hurt Danny's leverage. I was fearing that we would need to do a straight salary dump, or give up an asset to move one of our guys due to Ainge's position. This is much better than what I had hoped for.

2. Of the 3, Bradley made the most sense to trade: Crowder has an excellent contract and at the time of the trade was the only player on the roster who could defend 4's in crunch time. Crowder's contract makes him more valuable than Bradley right now. I wanted to keep Smart because I love the way he plays and think his winning effort plays have a ton of value on a contending team. More importantly Smart is going to make a lot less than Bradley next year. I'd rather have Smart at 10-13 MM a year than Bradley at 20 MM. Bradley's contract was expiring and I was not interested in supporting the team that gave him his next huge contract. Bradley's current salary being the highest of the 3 also meant that we could take back a big that we sorely needed and still have room to add Yabu who I really like.

3. Morris is a good player, but a great fit: The NBA is moving towards positionless basketball. With guys like Steph Curry and Damian Lillard being able to hit 3's using a ball screen, switching the pick and roll has become the best way to defend it. Due to this offensive trend, players who can defend multiple positions in a switch are more valuable than ever. Morris is a guy who can defend multiple positions when switching screens. He can drive closeouts and shoot the 3. Essentially he is the perfect compliment to IT and Hayward on offense and fits the switch everything scheme the Celtics (as well as the NBA) is moving towards.

4. Contracts are valuable: Guys like Crowder and Morris are on some of the best contracts in the league. If Anthony Davis becomes available contracts like those two are enticing assets to a rebuilding team that doesn't want to take on large contracts.

People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2017, 05:07:52 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.
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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2017, 05:08:00 PM »

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I don't love it but I do like it.

The return is good-ish. Bradley is a considerably better player but he is an expiring contract so his trade value is lower than it would be otherwise and Ainge could not afford to pay him next summer. And Morris is on a very good deal that gives the team improved financial flexibility.

Morris is a good player. Not as good as Bradley but good in his own right and a good fit in Stevens' system. I think Boston is actually the best system for his skill-set that Morris will have ever gotten since arriving in the NBA. I would expect him to have a career-year here if he can get enough minutes in that deep forward rotation.

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2017, 05:11:15 PM »

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Mixed. It's not great, but it had to be done. The return is unspectacular, but acceptable.

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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2017, 05:12:56 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.

Because he is better than Amir and Kelly, and it's opposite day?
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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2017, 05:13:51 PM »

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I will really miss Bradley.

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2017, 05:15:37 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.

Because he is better than Amir and Kelly, and it's opposite day?
Because Ainge somehow managed to actually make the team worse in rebounding, and because Morris doesn't really do anything at the PF position better than Kelly Olynyk did.
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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2017, 05:17:27 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.
I would wager all my tp that we will win more games than last year with Morris starting.
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Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2017, 05:18:52 PM »

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I hate hate hate to see Bradley go, but understand that pretty much no matter what he was a goner next year anyways.

I had hoped it would be Crowder but the economics here make sense.

Morris is a useful player on a friendly contract with a bit of height when we need some.

Still think another shoe will drop for another big.

So ultimately Mixed.

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2017, 05:22:48 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.
highly unlikely due to the shiftiness of the Eastern conference.

People have been predictingg the Celtics would regress every year since we snuck into the playoffs at 40-42.

Maybe this year's the year they are right. I tend to doubt it.

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2017, 05:25:21 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.
highly unlikely due to the shiftiness of the Eastern conference.

People have been predictingg the Celtics would regress every year since we snuck into the playoffs at 40-42.

Maybe this year's the year they are right. I tend to doubt it.

Barring injuries this is a 60 win team....

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2017, 05:25:33 PM »

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Neutral. Pistons obviously got the better player but the trade was necessary.

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2017, 05:37:00 PM »

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Neutral. Pistons obviously got the better player but the trade was necessary.

Is Bradley now the Pistons best player? I think so...

Re: Poll: Love or hate Bradley trade
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2017, 05:39:30 PM »

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People need to turn their frowns upside down and realize the team is going to be great next year (i wouldn't be surprised if they were close to 60 wins), and excellent in the long term. The Celtics are going to play a great brand of basketball that is currently the most effective style in the NBA.
So here's my hot take: if this team plans to start Morris at PF, they will win fewer games next season than they did last season.
highly unlikely due to the shiftiness of the Eastern conference.

People have been predictingg the Celtics would regress every year since we snuck into the playoffs at 40-42.

Maybe this year's the year they are right. I tend to doubt it.

Barring injuries this is a 60 win team....
Given that we're already injured, I'm not sure how you're "barring injuries".
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