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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2017, 11:35:30 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2017, 11:37:52 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2017, 11:44:23 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2017, 11:44:59 AM »

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I would love Marc Gasol on this team. We would be complete as a roster. How the heck can we fit his contract into the cap and still make room to sign Hayward though. Doesn't Gasol make 25 million a year? We are having trouble making room for Hayward as is, and I am sure we would not trade Horford for Gasol.

If Hayward signed for just below the max, we'd have to send out $17 - $18 million in salary. (I think Gasol makes around $22.5 million).

That means we'd trade AB, Jae and Smart, just to make salaries work. Then, figure we're giving up the Memphis pick, and a couple of more #1s.

Is it worth it?

Gasol / Zizic
Horford /
Hayward / Tatum
Brown /
IT

We'd obviously have to fill out the roster beyond just our rookies, but I'd do it.

Rozier backs up IT. Sign Yabu and hope he can play some minutes at the 4. Add Nader as end of bench insurance -- hope he turns out to be Adrian Griffin. Bring Gerald Green back?

I'd trade those three for Gasol today... but what kind of pick haul would we need to attach for them to do it? That concerns me.

To clear room for Hayward, I assumed that Rozier, Jackson and Mickey are gone, and Yabu stayed overseas. Under that scenario, you're asking Hayward to give up $300k per year.


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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
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sounds like there is something to this:

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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 11:46:14 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

Yeah, and Love aint happening because Cleveland is our main rival.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 11:48:52 AM »

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Gasol absolutely fits Brad's system but we'd have to trade Crowder, Smart and Bradley.  We'd have to rely on young guys a lot and journeymen vets that want to try and win a ring.  Gasol is 32 and is signed for 3 more years and fits the timeline of Al Horford and IT giving it up to the next wave.

If this trade was done any way we could get PP back for a year playing 15 minutes a night putting him on a legit farewell tour.  I know I know a fan can dream right.

Anyway it would complete deplete our team but would give us a starting unit that can absolutely compete with the best teams in the league.  The depth is the scary part.  If they could get Green on the vet min and Jerebko with an exception then I think their depth would be ok.

PG - IT, Rozier, Vet PG
SG - Brown, Green, Nader
SF - Hayward, Tatum, Ojeyele
PF - Al Horford, Theis, Jerebko
C - Gasol, Zizic, Bogut

I like that team. 
 

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2017, 11:48:59 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

That's just a slow front court - IMO. Horford, again IMO, is more of a 5 at this point in his career and I think that'll be clearer as he ages. Idk if pairing him with a center that can't really guard the perimeter is the way to go.

Offensively, that's potentially beautiful basketball. Defensively... I'd have major concerns.
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2017, 11:49:55 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

Yeah, and Love aint happening because Cleveland is our main rival.

I don't know, if we facilitate the three way trade with NYK so Carmelo goes to Cleveland and we get Love I think you roll the dice. I definitely would not want to load Cleveland's bench with Smart/Jae and have AB become their starting 2.
Personally I think Carmelo on Cleveland makes that team implode.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2017, 11:50:19 AM »

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I would love Marc Gasol on this team. We would be complete as a roster. How the heck can we fit his contract into the cap and still make room to sign Hayward though. Doesn't Gasol make 25 million a year? We are having trouble making room for Hayward as is, and I am sure we would not trade Horford for Gasol.

If Hayward signed for just below the max, we'd have to send out $17 - $18 million in salary. (I think Gasol makes around $22.5 million).

That means we'd trade AB, Jae and Smart, just to make salaries work. Then, figure we're giving up the Memphis pick, and a couple of more #1s.

Is it worth it?

Gasol / Zizic
Horford /
Hayward / Tatum
Brown /
IT

We'd obviously have to fill out the roster beyond just our rookies, but I'd do it.

Rozier backs up IT. Sign Yabu and hope he can play some minutes at the 4. Add Nader as end of bench insurance -- hope he turns out to be Adrian Griffin. Bring Gerald Green back?

I'd trade those three for Gasol today... but what kind of pick haul would we need to attach for them to do it? That concerns me.

To clear room for Hayward, I assumed that Rozier, Jackson and Mickey are gone, and Yabu stayed overseas. Under that scenario, you're asking Hayward to give up $300k per year.

Ok, so we can sign Hayward first. Then we can trade out $20 mil in salaries and get back $22 mil?  That makes sense.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2017, 11:50:43 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

That's just a slow front court - IMO. Horford, again IMO, is more of a 5 at this point in his career and I think that'll be clearer as he ages. Idk if pairing him with a center that can't really guard the perimeter is the way to go.

Offensively, that's potentially beautiful basketball. Defensively... I'd have major concerns.

I think Gasol's defense is being understated here, he is one of the best defenders in the NBA, especially at his position.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2017, 11:51:19 AM »

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I would love Marc Gasol on this team. We would be complete as a roster. How the heck can we fit his contract into the cap and still make room to sign Hayward though. Doesn't Gasol make 25 million a year? We are having trouble making room for Hayward as is, and I am sure we would not trade Horford for Gasol.

If Hayward signed for just below the max, we'd have to send out $17 - $18 million in salary. (I think Gasol makes around $22.5 million).

That means we'd trade AB, Jae and Smart, just to make salaries work. Then, figure we're giving up the Memphis pick, and a couple of more #1s.

Is it worth it?

Gasol / Zizic
Horford /
Hayward / Tatum
Brown /
IT

We'd obviously have to fill out the roster beyond just our rookies, but I'd do it.

Rozier backs up IT. Sign Yabu and hope he can play some minutes at the 4. Add Nader as end of bench insurance -- hope he turns out to be Adrian Griffin. Bring Gerald Green back?

I'd trade those three for Gasol today... but what kind of pick haul would we need to attach for them to do it? That concerns me.

To clear room for Hayward, I assumed that Rozier, Jackson and Mickey are gone, and Yabu stayed overseas. Under that scenario, you're asking Hayward to give up $300k per year.

It would def be fun to watch on offense this year, but when Gasol opts in for his 3rd year at 25 million I think that is a pretty bad boat anchor.  Maybe Marc stays healthy and it all goes great. 

I also worry about losing the guts of our def stopper culture.  I mean losing one of AB, Crowder, Smart would have been fine, two kind of hurts, but all three leaves us with no great perimeter def players, I think that is a major problem.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2017, 11:52:32 AM »

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Not at all.

Approximately 23-24M/Year for the next 2 years (or 3 if he opts-in - possible).

Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.

And NO, he's not worth AB + Smart + Crowder + 2019 Memphis + Another Future 1st

Yuck, I'm even less interested now. His contract is massive..

His contract is massive?

Have you seen what guys are getting?

He's cheap!
In terms of the type of salary we can sustain down the road, his contract is massive. So, probably not going to play for the Celtics unless he signs as a 35-year-old FA.

We don't know ownership's position. They pursued George, who would have gotten a $30+ million contract next year.

So long as we can stay below the tax line this year, it might be doable.



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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2017, 11:54:52 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah... I'm more interested in getting an athletic 4 to play next to Horford.

I think there are only three attainable options if we want a "superstar" 4/5 on our roster.
1) Love
2) Gasol
3) Aldridge

and thats the order i'd want them if we had an option and if cost was the same (Bradley/Smart/Crowder).. can probably get Aldridge without losing draft picks.

That's just a slow front court - IMO. Horford, again IMO, is more of a 5 at this point in his career and I think that'll be clearer as he ages. Idk if pairing him with a center that can't really guard the perimeter is the way to go.

Offensively, that's potentially beautiful basketball. Defensively... I'd have major concerns.

I think Gasol's defense is being understated here, he is one of the best defenders in the NBA, especially at his position.

No, not underrated. I know he's one of the better paint defenders in the NBA. But again, this is the NBA in 2017 where defending the 3pt line is as important as being able to make them consistently. We need at least one big who's comfortable chasing around stretch 4's.
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2017, 11:58:45 AM »

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I feel like Gasol and Horford are redundant, personally.

Yeah, I'm not sure they're a great fit together. Ultimately, I'd take Gasol if he's available, but I doubt Memphis is trading its greatest player in franchise history.
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