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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2017, 11:02:20 AM »

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Absolutely. He's getting up there in age and has an injury history but I love that player.

No idea how the money would work since we have to make space for Hayward too.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2017, 11:04:53 AM »

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I thought we needed to trim 2-3 million in salary?  If Gasol makes 22 mil, and we trade Smart/Bradley/Crowder (who make 20 mil combines) we would be taking on MORE salary, plus we would have two empty roster spots to fill.

I love Gasol, just not sure about the fit I guess.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2017, 11:05:32 AM »

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I'm not a huge fan of this. As others have hashed out, we would be dominant on offense, and could control the paint on defense. The main problem is that we would be using 2 slow centers. The modern nba needs you to have atleast one big who can switch, or guard the fast 4s on the perimeter.

While some claim Horford's natural position is as a PF, that isn't true defensively anymore. He lacks the lateral quickness to chase around the mobile guys on the perimeter. He is a very good rim protector, but outside of that, we would be hurting.

I would pass. I would honestly rather have Green from that team due to the defensive versatility we would have.
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2017, 11:06:15 AM »

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Not at all.

Approximately 23-24M/Year for the next 2 years (or 3 if he opts-in - possible).

Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.

And NO, he's not worth AB + Smart + Crowder + 2019 Memphis + Another Future 1st
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2017, 11:09:47 AM »

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Gasol and Horford?

I don't think so, with most teams going small

LeBron usually plays the 4, too. That one would be ugly

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2017, 11:12:52 AM »

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Gasol and Horford?

I don't think so, with most teams going small

LeBron usually plays the 4, too. That one would be ugly

They are both great passers, very good defenders, and both of them are now good three point shooters. I would definitely do it. Of course, you play the matchups with every team you face. If a team goes small, we have the roster to make the right adjustments.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2017, 11:14:47 AM »

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I would love Marc Gasol on this team. We would be complete as a roster. How the heck can we fit his contract into the cap and still make room to sign Hayward though. Doesn't Gasol make 25 million a year? We are having trouble making room for Hayward as is, and I am sure we would not trade Horford for Gasol.

If Hayward signed for just below the max, we'd have to send out $17 - $18 million in salary. (I think Gasol makes around $22.5 million).

That means we'd trade AB, Jae and Smart, just to make salaries work. Then, figure we're giving up the Memphis pick, and a couple of more #1s.

Is it worth it?

Gasol / Zizic
Horford /
Hayward / Tatum
Brown /
IT

We'd obviously have to fill out the roster beyond just our rookies, but I'd do it.

Rozier backs up IT. Sign Yabu and hope he can play some minutes at the 4. Add Nader as end of bench insurance -- hope he turns out to be Adrian Griffin. Bring Gerald Green back?

I'd trade those three for Gasol today... but what kind of pick haul would we need to attach for them to do it? That concerns me.

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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2017, 11:15:21 AM »

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Not at all.

Approximately 23-24M/Year for the next 2 years (or 3 if he opts-in - possible).

Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.

And NO, he's not worth AB + Smart + Crowder + 2019 Memphis + Another Future 1st

Yuck, I'm even less interested now. His contract is massive..

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2017, 11:16:14 AM »

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Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.


Did you know Gasol is, like, um.... really good?

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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2017, 11:17:26 AM »

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Not at all.

Approximately 23-24M/Year for the next 2 years (or 3 if he opts-in - possible).

Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.

And NO, he's not worth AB + Smart + Crowder + 2019 Memphis + Another Future 1st

Yuck, I'm even less interested now. His contract is massive..

His contract is massive?

Have you seen what guys are getting?

He's cheap!

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2017, 11:17:49 AM »

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Marc Gasol is owed $22.6 million in 17-18 and $24.1 million in 18-19, plus a player option for $25.6 million in 19-20.

That player option in 19-20 could be very painful from a cap perspective. Does he get us over the top in the next 2-3 years?

I think it is a gamble potentially worth taking IF the package is right. Given any move of Gasol is with a notion of full rebuild, one would have to imagine they target our abundance of draft picks. To me, BRK '18 and LAL '18/SAC '19 pick is off the table. Anything else I'm willing to include (including sending them back the Memphis 2019).

A team rebuilding could use a veteran cost controlled player such as Jae Crowder. But beyond Jae I don't see a package that becomes worth it to us.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2017, 11:19:45 AM »

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Pass...

I really like Marc but no thanks.

He's 32 with three years left on that contract.

I wouldn't hate it...but I don't think it would work defensively.


Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2017, 11:21:16 AM »

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Not at all.

Approximately 23-24M/Year for the next 2 years (or 3 if he opts-in - possible).

Pass. Maybe if he was 3-4 years younger, I'd consider.

And NO, he's not worth AB + Smart + Crowder + 2019 Memphis + Another Future 1st

Yuck, I'm even less interested now. His contract is massive..

His contract is massive?

Have you seen what guys are getting?

He's cheap!
In terms of the type of salary we can sustain down the road, his contract is massive. So, probably not going to play for the Celtics unless he signs as a 35-year-old FA.
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Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2017, 11:29:28 AM »

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Marc Gasol is the best possible fit C for our style. Huge, good 3pt shooter and crafty passer.

It's almost impossible because of our tough cap restrictions, but this could be league altering.

Re: Is Marc Gasol in the C's future?
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2017, 11:29:30 AM »

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I'm divided on this. On the one hand Marc Gasol is a terrific player who fits the bill for what we need providing rim protection and rebounding. On the other hand he would require Crowder, Smart, Bradley just to make salaries work which really hurts our depth. In a vacuum his salary isn't that bad, he has 2 years and a player option at like 23-24 million a year which for a player his caliber is a bargain, and the 3 year length fiths in well with our Horford (2+1) and Hayward (3+1) contract length giving up a 3 year window before we hand it off to the young guys. However, he is old, and that is worrisome because old big man can get bad fast. If we don't give up our core assets (Brown, Tatum, LA18, BRK18) i'd probably do it.