"Nobody can beat Danny's offer"

[Bobshot]

They'll be all right if they can revamp their front line. That means cutting Zeller and KO.
They need a lot more toughness there to beat the best teams.

I doubt they can sign two FAs. If they don't sign Hayward, they should go after one of the others. Maybe Millsap or Gay. They need another scorer, and Millsap would give them added defense and rebounding.

Plus there's always the possibility of a big trade. Ainge has a ton of draft picks, and those no.1s are not $$ cheap. He can't overload the team with 19yos.

I would say the biggest priority right now is another big scorer.

[slamtheking]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

agreed.  that package is far more in payment than what OKC sent for PG.  getting PG for a reasonable cost would have been terrific.  overpaying to get him for a rental would have been a mess

[Bobshot]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

agreed.  that package is far more in payment than what OKC sent for PG.  getting PG for a reasonable cost would have been terrific.  overpaying to get him for a rental would have been a mess

Might be the key to this thing was listening to the Pacers who said they wanted a deal before FA period started. They pulled the plug a few hours before FA.

Ainge was adamant in waiting for Hayward. It may have cost him George.

[TA9]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

agreed.  that package is far more in payment than what OKC sent for PG.  getting PG for a reasonable cost would have been terrific.  overpaying to get him for a rental would have been a mess

Might be the key to this thing was listening to the Pacers who said they wanted a deal before FA period started. They pulled the plug a few hours before FA.

Ainge was adamant in waiting for Hayward. It may have cost him George.

Pacers could have gotten the same offer from OKC even if they decided to wait for another 1-2 weeks. Bad management to rush it and pull off a bad deal instead of waiting for the best possible offer.

[playdream]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

agreed.  that package is far more in payment than what OKC sent for PG.  getting PG for a reasonable cost would have been terrific.  overpaying to get him for a rental would have been a mess

Might be the key to this thing was listening to the Pacers who said they wanted a deal before FA period started. They pulled the plug a few hours before FA.

Ainge was adamant in waiting for Hayward. It may have cost him George.

Bad Pacer FO cost them George, not Danny

[bellerephon]

If PG is really set on going to LAL after next season, it's not a big loss. One year of any player, unless it leads to a title, isn't really worth all that much. It would have been nice to get him here and see if Ainge and CBS could sell him on Boston, but it wasn't worth giving up our best assets.

[CoachBo]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

LOL if anyone truly believes this.

[vjcsmoke]

I feel great.  Griffin wants to lock in max money with his injury problems and George CLEARLY has not made any commitment to stay in OKC.  They're just bringing him in on a hope that one year with Westbrook with convince him to stay.  If he bolts, OKC just made a huge mistake they will be years recovering from.

Now, if Hayward blows us off to go to Miami...

Mike

Naaah, OKC wins regardless if George stays.  Clearing Oladipo's 84m off the books is a HUGE help for them.  They can become major players in free agency if George leaves.

The Pacers are the team that got screwed the most.  Not only losing George, but getting saddled with Oladipos huge contract.

Look at what the Lakers did to get rid of Mozgov's 84m.  They had to throw in the #2 overall pick in the draft just a few years ago in Russell.

[pearljammer10]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

[colincb]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

Don't know what the offer was for sure, but Steve Kyler saying he heard that the Pacers didn't want PG in the east.

[GreenEnvy]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

Why would they care? It's not like they will be contending anytime soon or he holds a grudge against them.

[blink]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

Why would they care? It's not like they will be contending anytime soon or he holds a grudge against them.

Who knows why they care, but it was obvious that it played into their decision making process. 

They turned down a deal that would have gotten them K Love from the Cavs, and they turned down probably a better deal from us (from a rebuilding stand point).  Add those two things together alone and it seems obvious Indy didn't want to trade PG to a contender in the East. 

Why does it need to be more complicated than that?  So much misguided anger in the last day.  DA should have done this, he should have offered more, blah blah blah.  That is such bs.  Indy decided it didn't want to trade PG to Clev or Boston and shipped him out west.  End of story.

[GreenEnvy]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

Why would they care? It's not like they will be contending anytime soon or he holds a grudge against them.

Who knows why they care, but it was obvious that it played into their decision making process. 

They turned down a deal that would have gotten them K Love from the Cavs, and they turned down probably a better deal from us (from a rebuilding stand point).  Add those two things together alone and it seems obvious Indy didn't want to trade PG to a contender in the East. 

Why does it need to be more complicated than that?  So much misguided anger in the last day.  DA should have done this, he should have offered more, blah blah blah.  That is such bs.  Indy decided it didn't want to trade PG to Clev or Boston and shipped him out west.  End of story.

Misguided anger by who? Since you quoted me, I'll assure you there is no anger here. I never said or inferred we should have offered more. I don't believe we should have to overpay.

I can understand not wanting to take on Love's contract. We've seen him as the top guy before, we know how that goes.

But to suggest they shouldn't take the best offer because they play in the same conference (not even same division) would be ineptitude at its finest. Take 50 cents (at best) on the dollar AND a bad contract to get him in the other conference. They aren't playoff bound for the foreseeable future, so it comes down to what, playing him 3-4 times vs only twice? I can understand the Celtics not trading say, Bradley or Smart interconference, because they are amongst the EC elite.

That's a joke of an excuse for a GM. The goal is to make your team as good as possible, not worry about potentially making another team that's already better than you even better.

Did Indy maximize their return last night? The answer is absolutely not. That's not Ainge's fault. End of story.

[Roy H.]

What Pacers wanted from us:

@AdamMKaufman: @wojespn on @espn: #Pacers wanted Smart, Crowder, multiple 1st Rd picks from #Celtics. Boston wasn't ready to close before Hayward signing.

Kind of annoying how other teams are demanding so much from us and then proceeds to accept a horrible deal from another team.

agreed.  that package is far more in payment than what OKC sent for PG.  getting PG for a reasonable cost would have been terrific.  overpaying to get him for a rental would have been a mess

Two role players and a couple of late firsts is an overpay?

That's exactly what Danny was offering. Indy took our offer at the end, but Danny wouldn't commit until Hayward signed.

[Roy H.]

Danny stillhad the best offer. Indy didn't want George in the East.

Why would they care? It's not like they will be contending anytime soon or he holds a grudge against them.

It's a false narrative. Indy wanted to take our offer, Danny wouldn't close until Hayward was done.