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Offline Rida

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/876298609574256640

This makes sense, you don't trade number 1 unless you feel that the guy isn't a generational talent.

We know Ainge is into brain typing, maybe he failed that miserably, who knows.

Danny has put his nuts firmly on the chopping board with this move, however, I hated the Ray Allen deal at the time and Danny got booed for picking Brown, so he deserves some slack.

I just hate the idea of trading the number one pick without the guarantee of a superstar in return.


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Well jeeze, this is pretty smart of Danny.. How about lighting the fire under the talented 19 yr old as you send him to our future division rival..


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Well jeeze, this is pretty smart of Danny.. How about lighting the fire under the talented 19 yr old as you send him to our future division rival..

If Embiid stays healthy, we have built and absolute monster in our division in 3 seasons

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Well jeeze, this is pretty smart of Danny.. How about lighting the fire under the talented 19 yr old as you send him to our future division rival..

No kidding. The fact that he is going to the Sixers is easily the worst part of this deal. That's a nice core they're building.

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Bull, Ainge just wanted to put the Celtics in the position where they needed to go out n make trades for a win now philosophy. We could of taken the smarter road and built a dynasty for 10 to 15 years. Now he opens a 3 to 4 year window that will close alot sooner cause to many people r impatient. Its bull sht i hate the idea and for this hope it backfires on his ass. Sorry thats how i feel ****H

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I'd much rather be reading that we had concerns about his knee or his jumper.

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What the heck is the point of being a winning team with a top pick if you cant' have confidence in your ability to turn that guy into a "winner"?
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Well, looking more and more like they just weren't sold on Fultz over the others, and Danny saw an opportunity to just get some more assets.

Hopefully it works out. I will say, though, that I also had this concern at times, too. Granted, some people thought the same about Brown, but I think his aggressiveness quelled those fears this year.
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This is what I've thought all along.

I had gotten myself behind the Fultz hype and how well he'd fit in Boston, but something never felt quite right. After watching a lot of Jackson the last couple of days, I am fully on board his train.

If Danny and Brad truly like Jackson more than Fultz, then getting an additional top 5 pick in one of the next two drafts is quite a haul from their point of view. I would have at least liked that additional 2021 Philly pick, but it appears that is not in the cards.

And if the Lakers take Jackson over Ball, well, I guess we get the other tier 1 prospect in Ball. It really could be a lot worse.

But honestly, to folks who have only been watching/reading Fultz highlights/articles, start doing the same thing with Jackson; the dude looks pretty amazing - not only can he jump high, but he jumps quickly, moves laterally quickly, and is constantly engaged; he will instantly become a fan favorite and is already a better prospect than our beloved Jaylen Brown. And to those who point out his crappy ft%, Fultz also sucked at free-throws.

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Also the video session, Stevens said he had strong concerns about his defense

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What the heck is the point of being a winning team with a top pick if you cant' have confidence in your ability to turn that guy into a "winner"?

If Danny/Brad like somebody else better and don't need to motivate him to be a winner, then it at least pays to get another top 5 pick out of it.

I understand your frustration, Pho. You are typically a very even-keeled, objective personality. Hopefully it all works out for the best.

At least have this TP for your troubles...  ;)

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Also the video session, Stevens said he had strong concerns about his defense
Link to this?

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Also the video session, Stevens said he had strong concerns about his defense
Link to this?

Ill admit its not quite how I worded it, but this is how I interpreted what fultz said: http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/06/markelle_fultz_shares_details.html

On SportsCenter, Fultz described what Stevens pointed out during their game film session.

"Just little stuff about playing defense, better ways to help me," Fultz said. "And then offensively, stuff that he liked that I did, the way I come off screen-and-rolls and different stuff like that, and stuff I can improve on on both ends. And stuff I did good on the defensive end, too. It was both good and bad."
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What the heck is the point of being a winning team with a top pick if you cant' have confidence in your ability to turn that guy into a "winner"?

If Danny/Brad like somebody else better and don't need to motivate him to be a winner, then it at least pays to get another top 5 pick out of it.

I understand your frustration, Pho. You are typically a very even-keeled, objective personality. Hopefully it all works out for the best.

At least have this TP for your troubles...  ;)

Perhaps it will.

If this is just a matter of them not liking Fultz and wanting to get extra assets, OK.

If this is all to set up a trade for Butler and then sign Hayward ... well, that'll be interesting.  I don't like the idea of going all-in on winning in the short term when the Warriors and Cavs exist in their current form.
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Fultz has never won at any level. So it Has to be at least some of a concern. Not even preschool. Or rock-paper-scissors with ainge