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Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #90 on: June 17, 2017, 07:45:17 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2017, 07:48:24 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #92 on: June 17, 2017, 08:00:55 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #93 on: June 17, 2017, 08:08:23 PM »

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The premise of the OP would be no better if we drafted a guard. There is still IT, AB and Smart. At least Hayward is 6'8 and play PF in small ball lineups.

As a good team, we should expect not a rookie to start initially regardless.

We need to to some trading regardless.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #94 on: June 17, 2017, 08:16:47 PM »

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The premise of the OP would be no better if we drafted a guard. There is still IT, AB and Smart. At least Hayward is 6'8 and play PF in small ball lineups.

As a good team, we should expect not a rookie to start initially regardless.

We need to to some trading regardless.
IT-AB-Smart are all entering their contract year. We can't just resign all 3 of them. Fultz would be the perfect replacement for whomever Danny decides to move.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2017, 08:18:49 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #96 on: June 17, 2017, 08:21:30 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?
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Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #97 on: June 17, 2017, 08:26:27 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?

You are right.
Brown is a 2, Jackson is a 3.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #98 on: June 17, 2017, 08:26:32 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?
shooting guards are usually guards. That shoot. Lol

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #99 on: June 17, 2017, 08:31:58 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?
How big do you think NBA 4's need to be in today's NBA. Brown is 6'7 225 as a 20 year old, I expect him to put on 15-20 pounds as his career goes along. 240-245 is absolutely big enough to play the 4 in the modern NBA.

I expect him to add bulk without losing explosiveness/quickness, when you are a young kid you an absolutely build muscle and gain explosiveness at the same time. Watch videos of him working out on youtube and you can tell how big this guy is going to get.

I don't expect him be able to guard many 4's next year but by the end of his rookie contract I absolutely expect it.
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Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #100 on: June 17, 2017, 08:38:22 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?
shooting guards are usually guards. That shoot. Lol
Everyone has to be able to shoot a 3 consistently in today's game. I mean, Horford and Kelly are stretch 5s!

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #101 on: June 17, 2017, 08:38:23 PM »

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The question the OP poses bemuses me. Three lengthy wings alongside a stretch 5 and PnR - score first - PG is the ideal lineup in today's NBA (as long as those wings can shoot). The better individual scorers those wings are, the better the team you are.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #102 on: June 17, 2017, 08:40:27 PM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.
Sure but the thing is, we can't have it both ways. If he gains muscle he is going to lose speed, explosiveness and agility. Brown is not like Crowder. He is very quick and explosive. Imo we have to be careful with his weight training not to bulk him up too much.
Brown is gonna naturally add some strength. He's 20 years old with a good frame.
Of course he is. What I am saying is I see him more like a SG than a PF. I might be wrong though. Perhaps CBS wants to bulk him up and play him at the 3-4. Who knows?
I think his ideal position will be the 3, but I think he will have the ability to play both the 2 and the 4 in stretches.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #103 on: June 18, 2017, 12:15:27 AM »

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Man, there are going to be a lot of people eating crow if Jackson comes in and plays well. He is considered a better prospect than Brown and is insanely athletic.

None of us know what will happen, but at least give Jackson and Ainge the benefit of the doubt. Draft express has great strengths/weaknesses videos and some folks probably need to watch Jackson's. He is not Winslow or S Johnson.

Also, if Danny is going to take Jackson, regardless, wouldn't it be much better to pick up additional considerable assets?

And as far as the question in the thread goes, both Brown and Jackson can play the 2-4. I see no issue with those two playing together.
Brown is more of a SF/SG than a SF/PF. Remember the game against the Clips in LA? That was the first time I saw Brown playing at the 4 and he was terrible. Griffin/Speights were killing us. The way I see it, Brown is quick/explosive and he is best suited defending shorter opponents on the perimeter.
Brown was also a rookie. Players almost always begin their careers playing more perimeter oriented and as they add strength and bulk up they move down positions. Brown has the frame to add a lot of strength. I could see him earning big minutes at the four within the next 2 years.

ROFL.  A 6'7 power forward.  Please don't tell me we spent a #3 overall pick to draft an undersized power forward?  That would be a criminal waste of Jaylen's talents. 

This trade down for Jackson is really upsetting as he offers nothing offensively.  And is yet another defense-first player who can't shoot.  He can't even be our rim protector because JJ is 6'8 and a beanpole skinny 205 lbs.

If you want a superstar scorer in the making, just draft Fultz and call it a day.

Re: How do Jackson, Brown, and Hayward play together
« Reply #104 on: June 18, 2017, 01:13:06 AM »

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I'm trying to figure out what's happening here, and Jackson seems too redundant to make sense of it. My guess is he's smokescreening to mess with either the Lakers or Sixers. I think we may take Fox or trade the pick altogether for another (super)star.
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