Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/875823645913792512

WHAT THE F I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

“I learned that his scoring average is really good against a chair,” said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge. “Good shooting percentages against a chair. High efficiency.”

“I’ve gotten phone calls from other teams,” said Ainge, “but nothing that I’m tempted by.”

“I don’t know if it’s necessary, but we may bring him back in for a workout again,” said Ainge. (Fultz)


I guess Ainge got his offer.  LOL

How recent are these quotes?

[celticsclay]

There has to be another move set up for this. That's the only way it makes sense. That 76ers pick probably won't even be a lottery pick if they stay healthy.

Hate, hate, hate this. I've been banking on Fultz ever since the lottery night. We're just making the 76ers into a perennial powerhouse. Oh, and they're in our division. How the hell are we going to compete with Fultz, Simmons, AND Embiid?

I ... have nothing to say.

If we got Butler and the first AND second overall pick next year would you be upset?

[Ilikesports17]

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/875823645913792512

WHAT THE F I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING

If Bill Simmons hates it, I can be talked into it. Really dislike bill.

[CelticsFan166]

There has to be another move set up for this. That's the only way it makes sense. That 76ers pick probably won't even be a lottery pick if they stay healthy.

Hate, hate, hate this. I've been banking on Fultz ever since the lottery night. We're just making the 76ers into a perennial powerhouse. Oh, and they're in our division. How the hell are we going to compete with Fultz, Simmons, AND Embiid?

I ... have nothing to say.

Yeah this just seems incredibly dumb. Remember Ainge's interview a few weeks back where he stated that we need more scoring, shooting and playmaking (pretty much everything Fultz would provide)? How can he say that and then draft another defensive role player? Something's fishy.

[Ilikesports17]

There has to be another move set up for this. That's the only way it makes sense. That 76ers pick probably won't even be a lottery pick if they stay healthy.

Hate, hate, hate this. I've been banking on Fultz ever since the lottery night. We're just making the 76ers into a perennial powerhouse. Oh, and they're in our division. How the hell are we going to compete with Fultz, Simmons, AND Embiid?

I ... have nothing to say.

If we got Butler and the first AND second overall pick next year would you be upset?

I mean thats obviously incredibly unlikely, but no, I dont think anyone would complain lol

[jpotter33]

Ugh freaking Lowe now saying the principal pieces are in play and he'd be surprised if it doesn't get done at this point...

Why is this "UGH?"  I get being excited about Fultz and having the #1 pick but acting like this isn't a power move by the Celtics is kind of weird.  They are in the driver's seat.

Because we've long been longing for the type of high-level talent that Fultz represents. Making this trade means taking a lesser talent in this draft all for the price of future picks that may or may not be as good as this pick.

As the last several years have shown, with Boston in particular, quality, not quantity, wins in the NBA.

I don't think Danny would do this if he didn't think the player he is getting back (hopefully Jackson) has a good shot of being the best player from the draft.

I truly do not get all of this Jackson love on here. He seems like a bigger, bit more well-rounded version of Marcus Smart to me, only with less defense and more athleticism and size/length. I don't see him ever being even a secondary scorer in the NBA. He's also really similar to Brown in a lot of ways, so why would we want Jackson, too?

I just don't see him as the type of player that this team needs going forward.

[CelticsElite]

Fultz just signed a multi year shoe deal with Nike. He's had a crazy day

[colincb]

@Tom Moore Believe would have to be 2019 Sixers 1st-rounder for deal to be completed before draft night.

@stevekylerNBA
So hearing the three this year, a future 76ers first and Lakers 2018 on the table to Celtics for the number one... thats a ton of value

[Ilikesports17]

Ugh freaking Lowe now saying the principal pieces are in play and he'd be surprised if it doesn't get done at this point...

Why is this "UGH?"  I get being excited about Fultz and having the #1 pick but acting like this isn't a power move by the Celtics is kind of weird.  They are in the driver's seat.

Because we've long been longing for the type of high-level talent that Fultz represents. Making this trade means taking a lesser talent in this draft all for the price of future picks that may or may not be as good as this pick.

As the last several years have shown, with Boston in particular, quality, not quantity, wins in the NBA.

I don't think Danny would do this if he didn't think the player he is getting back (hopefully Jackson) has a good shot of being the best player from the draft.

I truly do not get all of this Jackson love on here. He seems like a bigger, bit more well-rounded version of Marcus Smart to me, only with less defense and more athleticism and size/length. I don't see him ever being even a secondary scorer in the NBA. He's also really similar to Brown in a lot of ways, so why would we want Jackson, too?

Jackson is an explosive 6'8" Marcus Smart with a little less defense.

[Phantom255x]

You have a chance to draft the next "James Harden with slightly better defense..."

And you trade it for #3 and 2 future picks. Unless this is getting us Davis in a trade...

[footey]

Chad Ford called it. Give him credit.

[Vox_Populi]

Top prospects should intentionally tank their FG% and 3P% to pique Ainge's interest.

[RJ87]

Wouldn't this be a pick you make on draft night even you know what's what?

What are we doing? What is happening?! What is going on?!?

[PhoSita]

There has to be another move set up for this. That's the only way it makes sense. That 76ers pick probably won't even be a lottery pick if they stay healthy.

Hate, hate, hate this. I've been banking on Fultz ever since the lottery night. We're just making the 76ers into a perennial powerhouse. Oh, and they're in our division. How the hell are we going to compete with Fultz, Simmons, AND Embiid?

I ... have nothing to say.

If we got Butler and the first AND second overall pick next year would you be upset?

Probably not, but what's the likelihood of that?


I'm just sicking of pushing things out.  We FINALLY got a top overall pick in a draft with a consensus #1.  Take your guy and move on.  This isn't complicated.

I really dont' think there's that much to be gained trying to go all in to win in the short term.

Jimmy Butler probably doesn't get us to Game 7 against the Cavs, let alone a shot against the Warriors.

Maybe as you say the Celts can then sign Blake.  Seems unlikely, but perhaps.

How long does a core of IT, Butler, Crowder, Blake, Horford stay together?  How many chances do they get to unseat LeBron and take a swing at the Warriors?


How does it look if that group only truly contends once or twice in the next five years, meanwhile those "extra picks" turn into more role player type prospects and Fultz turns into a Harden / Wall / Lillard type piece for Philly?

Are we making a move for the sake of 2019-2020 while giving Philly a shot at dominating 2020-2030?