Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick

[CelticsElite]

Dannys Crazy lol

[Celtics18]

Seriously, though, how could you say no to more gritty role players who can't shoot and more future draft picks to talk about trading for a star someday?

Surely that's better than actually taking your shot at a franchise player.

Step off the ledge.  Jackson's going to be better than Fultz.  This is genius!!!

[rondofan1255]

Impossible to even think about this without knowing what we would get back.

This. Hope they just keep the pick. Makes sense that #1 is available if someone is willing to overpay big-time.

[mctyson]

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than Jackson, they have to trade down.  That is an easy decision.

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than everyone else, that is itself the problem.

I knew Ainge would do something like this. And I don't understand it either. You rarely have a draft as talented as this one....that still has a consensus no. 1 pick.

Not a concensus.  Internet concensus because of Draftexpress maybe.  Danny has seen all these kids in person.  Hundreds of games.  He doesn't care about internet concensus.  Many GM's do not have Fultz #1 reportedly.

Exactly.  You have to trust their scouting.  If they get it wrong, that's on their record.  But it is the way it should be done...not by who DraftExpress rates.

[CelticsElite]

Danny is going for youth movement and depth. The spurs strategy

[Dino Pitino]

Not a concensus.  Internet concensus because of Draftexpress maybe.  Danny has seen all these kids in person.  Hundreds of games.  He doesn't care about internet concensus.  Many GM's do not have Fultz #1 reportedly.

THIS ^^^^^^

Too many fans here are letting the mythical Consensus dominate their heads. Last year at this time Jackson was a consensus better pick than Fultz. Consensus changes, is a product of groupthink much of the time. This could be one of those times and Fultz may become a disappointment, perhaps only a Good player rather than the Transcendant player that folks tied to the Consensus think he is.

[CelticsElite]

Don't people trade to get the first pick? Trading down for more than one scrub might backfire

[Celtics18]

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than Jackson, they have to trade down.  That is an easy decision.

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than everyone else, that is itself the problem.

I knew Ainge would do something like this. And I don't understand it either. You rarely have a draft as talented as this one....that still has a consensus no. 1 pick.

Not a concensus.  Internet concensus because of Draftexpress maybe.  Danny has seen all these kids in person.  Hundreds of games.  He doesn't care about internet concensus.  Many GM's do not have Fultz #1 reportedly.

Great point about "internet consensus" not necessarily matching the consensus of NBA gms.  If Danny does this deal, it obviously would indicate that he and his staff weren't part of that consensus.

[CelticsElite]

If we can somehow walk away with both fox and Jackson, I'll be ok with the trade

[jpotter33]

Ugh freaking Lowe now saying the principal pieces are in play and he'd be surprised if it doesn't get done at this point...

[ETNCeltics]

Ainge is an absolute moron who should be immediately fired if he's actually considering this. No better than the idiot who gave him this pick in the first place. Trading a future superstar for a role player and a pick that might wind up with little value. Comical. This franchise deserves everything that will happen if ownership allows him to go through with this farce.

[rondofan1255]

Danny is going for youth movement and depth. The spurs strategy

Good news is Spurs haven't drafted a lottery pick since Duncan though.

[mctyson]

Ainge is an absolute moron who should be immediately fired if he's actually considering this. No better than the idiot who gave him this pick in the first place. Trading a future superstar for a role player and a pick that might wind up with little value. Comical. This franchise deserves everything that will happen if ownership allows him to go through with this farce.

Think about that for a second then repost.

[Ilikesports17]

Ainge is an absolute moron who should be immediately fired if he's actually considering this. No better than the idiot who gave him this pick in the first place. Trading a future superstar for a role player and a pick that might wind up with little value. Comical. This franchise deserves everything that will happen if ownership allows him to go through with this farce.

Glad to see the Celtics blog ovverreaction machine is well oiled and ready for action.

[fantankerous]

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than Jackson, they have to trade down.  That is an easy decision.

If they don't rate Fultz much higher than everyone else, that is itself the problem.

I knew Ainge would do something like this. And I don't understand it either. You rarely have a draft as talented as this one....that still has a consensus no. 1 pick.

Not a concensus.  Internet concensus because of Draftexpress maybe.  Danny has seen all these kids in person.  Hundreds of games.  He doesn't care about internet concensus.  Many GM's do not have Fultz #1 reportedly.

Great point about "internet consensus" not necessarily matching the consensus of NBA gms.  If Danny does this deal, it obviously would indicate that he and his staff weren't part of that consensus.

Not necessarily.  Danny could agree with consensus and still make this trade.  It may indicate that he values the additional picks more than the difference between one and three.