Crowder, Jackson, Mickey, BOS 2018 for Carmelo?

[mr. dee]

I don't know if the TPE is applicable for this type of transaction but Phil is just desperate to get rid of Carmelo's contract. Add in some second rounders if needed.

[PhoSita]

To Melo I say no thanks and good day sir.

I said good day sir!

[Roy H.]

I prefer Hayward.

[goCeltics]

if they can't get hayward, then the max i offer is amir (s&t) + marcus + jackson + mickey, no way am i trading crowder or the nets unprotected pick

it would work trade rules wise if camelo argreed to forgoe his trade kicker,

carmelo trade value is at a all time low, jackson had done his best to acheive that plus carmelo has only 1 year plus a player option left in his contract anyway.

i think carmelo might be talked into staying in the same divison as the knicks as extra motivation, he has the no trade clause so he has leverage

however i feel jackson hates the c's, and will try to steer him the the clippers
 

[konkmv]

I think the clippers pick and crowder are just OK

[goCeltics]

gallinari (free agent) is another option i would try before going after melo

[LilRip]

I'd be on board with a Melo trade. I think Crowder is a good centerpiece for that trade. Maybe a couple of late 1sts as well in exchange for a future 1st from NYK.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced we don't get to lure any big name FA's like Blake or Hayward (mainly because they're not in a bad situation in their team either).

[mr. dee]

if they can't get hayward, then the max i offer is amir (s&t) + marcus + jackson + mickey, no way am i trading crowder or the nets unprotected pick

it would work trade rules wise if camelo argreed to forgoe his trade kicker,

carmelo trade value is at a all time low, jackson had done his best to acheive that plus carmelo has only 1 year plus a player option left in his contract anyway.

i think carmelo might be talked into staying in the same divison as the knicks as extra motivation, he has the no trade clause so he has leverage

however i feel jackson hates the c's, and will try to steer him the the clippers

Melo has already stated that he will lift the NTC if he's going to the Celtics. And Jackson don't have much choice as in the end, Melo will be the one to decide which team he can go.

As for Smart, why the hell would you trade this team's heart and soul? Crowder have shown nothing in the playoffs. Too slow to guard elite SFs and too short to guard PFs. He's an asset, yes. But he's not the solution at the 3 spot.

[max215]

I prefer Hayward.

That would be because Hayward is far better.

[mr. dee]

I prefer Hayward.

That would be because Hayward is far better.

Yes, but salary wise, Melo's contract is more attractive. You'd have to offer Hayward $30 mil or convince him to take a slight paycut.

[goCeltics]

if they can't get hayward, then the max i offer is amir (s&t) + marcus + jackson + mickey, no way am i trading crowder or the nets unprotected pick

it would work trade rules wise if camelo argreed to forgoe his trade kicker,

carmelo trade value is at a all time low, jackson had done his best to acheive that plus carmelo has only 1 year plus a player option left in his contract anyway.

i think carmelo might be talked into staying in the same divison as the knicks as extra motivation, he has the no trade clause so he has leverage

however i feel jackson hates the c's, and will try to steer him the the clippers

Melo has already stated that he will lift the NTC if he's going to the Celtics. And Jackson don't have much choice as in the end, Melo will be the one to decide which team he can go.

As for Smart, why the hell would you trade this team's heart and soul? Crowder have shown nothing in the playoffs. Too slow to guard elite SFs and too short to guard PFs. He's an asset, yes. But he's not the solution at the 3 spot.

crowder >> smart, has efg of 10% points higher also his contract outlook is way better, smart is yet to get paid.

[mr. dee]

if they can't get hayward, then the max i offer is amir (s&t) + marcus + jackson + mickey, no way am i trading crowder or the nets unprotected pick

it would work trade rules wise if camelo argreed to forgoe his trade kicker,

carmelo trade value is at a all time low, jackson had done his best to acheive that plus carmelo has only 1 year plus a player option left in his contract anyway.

i think carmelo might be talked into staying in the same divison as the knicks as extra motivation, he has the no trade clause so he has leverage

however i feel jackson hates the c's, and will try to steer him the the clippers

Melo has already stated that he will lift the NTC if he's going to the Celtics. And Jackson don't have much choice as in the end, Melo will be the one to decide which team he can go.

As for Smart, why the hell would you trade this team's heart and soul? Crowder have shown nothing in the playoffs. Too slow to guard elite SFs and too short to guard PFs. He's an asset, yes. But he's not the solution at the 3 spot.

crowder >> smart, has efg of 10% points higher also his contract outlook is way better, smart is yet to get paid.

Do you watch the games or just look at the stats sheet? Even the analysts says that Smart brings something that is not measurable in stat sheet. He's a much better defender too. If Smart wasn't fouled out in game 1, the game could have been much closer in the 4th. I don't think Crowder can bring the intensity that Smart does.

[max215]

I prefer Hayward.

That would be because Hayward is far better.

Yes, but salary wise, Melo's contract is more attractive. You'd have to offer Hayward $30 mil or convince him to take a slight paycut.

I'd rather have Hayward at the max than Melo at his number. I'm not entirely sure Melo is even a net positive anymore.

[Roy H.]

I prefer Hayward.

That would be because Hayward is far better.

Yes, but salary wise, Melo's contract is more attractive. You'd have to offer Hayward $30 mil or convince him to take a slight paycut.

Melo has a $26+ million contract and a 15% trade kicker. I don't have the exact math, but Carmelo will be just as expensive as Hayward this year.

[moiso]

Add Carmelo and I bet the Celtics get worse.  Especially if we draft Fultz.  There is only one basketball per NBA game.