If Colangelo calls looking for 1

[Granath]

#3 plus better of 2018 PHI/LA 1st, plus better of 2019 PHI/SAC 1st.

This to start. To me, making a deal for the overall #1 has to be in the ballpark of the Chris Weber/Penny Hardaway trade. That deal was:

Magic — Traded Chris Webber to Warriors for Anfernee Hardaway (#3  overall pick), 1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller), 1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark), 2000 first round pick (#5-Mike Miller). We'd be looking for something similar - the "Godfather" type of deal.
 

[ETNCeltics]

If it was #3, Saric, and the Lakers pick unprotected, I'd be tempted, but I'd still have to pass.

I believe Fultz is going to be a superstar, and I'm  less bullish on the assets we'd get in return.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I would take it as an insult and probably not deal with them again until Colangelo is fired

[Donoghus]

#3 plus better of 2018 PHI/LA 1st, plus better of 2019 PHI/SAC 1st.

This to start. To me, making a deal for the overall #1 has to be in the ballpark of the Chris Weber/Penny Hardaway trade. That deal was:

Magic — Traded Chris Webber to Warriors for Anfernee Hardaway (#3  overall pick), 1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller), 1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark), 2000 first round pick (#5-Mike Miller). We'd be looking for something similar - the "Godfather" type of deal.

This. 

Ask for the moon. 

[Moranis]

#3 plus better of 2018 PHI/LA 1st, plus better of 2019 PHI/SAC 1st.

This to start. To me, making a deal for the overall #1 has to be in the ballpark of the Chris Weber/Penny Hardaway trade. That deal was:

Magic — Traded Chris Webber to Warriors for Anfernee Hardaway (#3  overall pick), 1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller), 1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark), 2000 first round pick (#5-Mike Miller). We'd be looking for something similar - the "Godfather" type of deal.

This. 

Ask for the moon.

3 future picks that you have no idea where they will be isn't the moon. I'd much rather have much more concrete assets like Saric, Lakers pick, etc.

[Donoghus]

#3 plus better of 2018 PHI/LA 1st, plus better of 2019 PHI/SAC 1st.

This to start. To me, making a deal for the overall #1 has to be in the ballpark of the Chris Weber/Penny Hardaway trade. That deal was:

Magic — Traded Chris Webber to Warriors for Anfernee Hardaway (#3  overall pick), 1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller), 1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark), 2000 first round pick (#5-Mike Miller). We'd be looking for something similar - the "Godfather" type of deal.

This. 

Ask for the moon.

3 future picks that you have no idea where they will be isn't the moon. I'd much rather have much more concrete assets like Saric, Lakers pick, etc.

A)  I don't expect Ainge to move the pick

B)  I don't expect Colangelo to give up a godfather offer to move up two spots.

Also, Granath was simply sharing the history of the GSW/ORL trade.  I'm assuming the dynamics of a BOS-PHL trade would be different  & not simply a boatload of down the road 1st rounders.  Danny would be smarter than that, IMO.  He knows PHL is trending upwards.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I'd tell him that we could do another deal:

Marcus Smart plus other prospects
4
Jahlil Okafor

I wanted to do this trade for about a year but wish we had done it at the deadline (obv Philly would need to ok it). 99% of CB said that they would NOT do that trade when there was a thread on it at the deadline.
Having Fultz and Jaylen Brown (and Rozier) taking the minutes at the 1-2-3 is just going to happen IMO. Marcus Smart (former #6 pick) would be a good guy to trade to the sixers for their former, and so far underachieving, #3 overall pick.

[PAOBoston]

I'd tell him that we could do another deal:

Marcus Smart plus other prospects
4
Jahlil Okafor

I wanted to do this trade for about a year but wish we had done it at the deadline (obv Philly would need to ok it). 99% of CB said that they would NOT do that trade when there was a thread on it at the deadline.
Having Fultz and Jaylen Brown (and Rozier) taking the minutes at the 1-2-3 is just going to happen IMO. Marcus Smart (former #6 pick) would be a good guy to trade to the sixers for their former, and so far underachieving, #3 overall pick.

How does this trade help the C's exactly? It removes on of our best perimeter defenderail for a guy who can't rebound or play defense or stretch the floor.

[Casperian]

#3 plus better of 2018 PHI/LA 1st, plus better of 2019 PHI/SAC 1st.

This to start. To me, making a deal for the overall #1 has to be in the ballpark of the Chris Weber/Penny Hardaway trade. That deal was:

Magic — Traded Chris Webber to Warriors for Anfernee Hardaway (#3  overall pick), 1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller), 1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark), 2000 first round pick (#5-Mike Miller). We'd be looking for something similar - the "Godfather" type of deal.

This. 

Ask for the moon.

3 future picks that you have no idea where they will be isn't the moon. I'd much rather have much more concrete assets like Saric, Lakers pick, etc.

I don't know, Josh Jackson + the better of PHI/LAL 2018 and the better of PHI/SAC 2019 sounds pretty concrete to me, asset-wise.

Again, such a move would really help our cap situation. It's not just about the incoming value, it's also about the players we could potentially sign/retain. At the very least, it's worth thinking about.

[celticsclay]

I'd tell him that we could do another deal:

Marcus Smart plus other prospects
4
Jahlil Okafor

I wanted to do this trade for about a year but wish we had done it at the deadline (obv Philly would need to ok it). 99% of CB said that they would NOT do that trade when there was a thread on it at the deadline.
Having Fultz and Jaylen Brown (and Rozier) taking the minutes at the 1-2-3 is just going to happen IMO. Marcus Smart (former #6 pick) would be a good guy to trade to the sixers for their former, and so far underachieving, #3 overall pick.

How does this trade help the C's exactly? It removes on of our best perimeter defenderail for a guy who can't rebound or play defense or stretch the floor.

How do you follow basketball and not realize that Smart has a ton more value around the league than Okafor? I am so confused how people can care enough to follow the Celtics, but not enough to loosely know what is going on with players they propose trading for.

1) Okafor had a horrible season and was thoroughly outplayed by Holmes over the course of the season.
2) His defense is absolutely horrible in both effort and physical skills and has been broken down by just about every writer that loosely covers the 76ers
3) He continues to severely struggle with injury concerns having knee problems from an apparently botched minor knee procedure over a year ago that was supposed to have a 6 week recovery period and has given him continued soreness and caused him to miss games. It is unclear if he needs another surgery or what can be done.
4) Related to 3, but an ongoing issue going back to college is that he has serious conditioning issues and gets winded as the game goes on. It is unclear if this is laziness, body type or something else.
5) They desperately tried to trade him at the deadline and may have agreed in principle to a top 20 protected first round pick for him. Other trades were made (specifically the Portland/Denver exchange of centers and the Cousins trade) that made no team interested in him. This created the very awkward situation of having him come back to the team after a trade has been announced.
6) With the emergence of Holmes and Embiid apparently healthy, there are very limited minutes for Okafor further depressing his opportunity to disprove all the points above.

Now we have people that are still suggesting we trade Smart, who if nothing else is an elite defender that has shown he can play serious minutes and help a team that made the ECF, plus apparently something else for a poor rebounding, poorly conditioned, horrible defensive players with ongoing injury concerns and an established value of late first round pick. I mean come on.....Lets trade Jerebro for Kevin Love while we are at it. 

[PhoSita]

I'm really not interested in making any deals with Philly.

[Grindfather]

I'd tell him that we could do another deal:

Marcus Smart plus other prospects
4
Jahlil Okafor

I wanted to do this trade for about a year but wish we had done it at the deadline (obv Philly would need to ok it). 99% of CB said that they would NOT do that trade when there was a thread on it at the deadline.
Having Fultz and Jaylen Brown (and Rozier) taking the minutes at the 1-2-3 is just going to happen IMO. Marcus Smart (former #6 pick) would be a good guy to trade to the sixers for their former, and so far underachieving, #3 overall pick.

How does this trade help the C's exactly? It removes on of our best perimeter defenderail for a guy who can't rebound or play defense or stretch the floor.

How do you follow basketball and not realize that Smart has a ton more value around the league than Okafor? I am so confused how people can care enough to follow the Celtics, but not enough to loosely know what is going on with players they propose trading for.

1) Okafor had a horrible season and was thoroughly outplayed by Holmes over the course of the season.
2) His defense is absolutely horrible in both effort and physical skills and has been broken down by just about every writer that loosely covers the 76ers
3) He continues to severely struggle with injury concerns having knee problems from an apparently botched minor knee procedure over a year ago that was supposed to have a 6 week recovery period and has given him continued soreness and caused him to miss games. It is unclear if he needs another surgery or what can be done.
4) Related to 3, but an ongoing issue going back to college is that he has serious conditioning issues and gets winded as the game goes on. It is unclear if this is laziness, body type or something else.
5) They desperately tried to trade him at the deadline and may have agreed in principle to a top 20 protected first round pick for him. Other trades were made (specifically the Portland/Denver exchange of centers and the Cousins trade) that made no team interested in him. This created the very awkward situation of having him come back to the team after a trade has been announced.
6) With the emergence of Holmes and Embiid apparently healthy, there are very limited minutes for Okafor further depressing his opportunity to disprove all the points above.

Now we have people that are still suggesting we trade Smart, who if nothing else is an elite defender that has shown he can play serious minutes and help a team that made the ECF, plus apparently something else for a poor rebounding, poorly conditioned, horrible defensive players with ongoing injury concerns and an established value of late first round pick. I mean come on.....Lets trade Jerebro for Kevin Love while we are at it.

Thank you!  This pretty much encapsulates how I feel. I also can't understand how anyone can watch current NBA basketball and not realize that Okafor's skill set has very little value, especially in the playoffs when everyone goes even smaller than they usually do.  If we had Okafor against Washington, he would barely have seen the floor.  Can you imagine Wall and Beal going at Okafor in the pick & roll?  I would've been a blood bath.

[celticsclay]

I'd tell him that we could do another deal:

Marcus Smart plus other prospects
4
Jahlil Okafor

I wanted to do this trade for about a year but wish we had done it at the deadline (obv Philly would need to ok it). 99% of CB said that they would NOT do that trade when there was a thread on it at the deadline.
Having Fultz and Jaylen Brown (and Rozier) taking the minutes at the 1-2-3 is just going to happen IMO. Marcus Smart (former #6 pick) would be a good guy to trade to the sixers for their former, and so far underachieving, #3 overall pick.

How does this trade help the C's exactly? It removes on of our best perimeter defenderail for a guy who can't rebound or play defense or stretch the floor.

How do you follow basketball and not realize that Smart has a ton more value around the league than Okafor? I am so confused how people can care enough to follow the Celtics, but not enough to loosely know what is going on with players they propose trading for.

1) Okafor had a horrible season and was thoroughly outplayed by Holmes over the course of the season.
2) His defense is absolutely horrible in both effort and physical skills and has been broken down by just about every writer that loosely covers the 76ers
3) He continues to severely struggle with injury concerns having knee problems from an apparently botched minor knee procedure over a year ago that was supposed to have a 6 week recovery period and has given him continued soreness and caused him to miss games. It is unclear if he needs another surgery or what can be done.
4) Related to 3, but an ongoing issue going back to college is that he has serious conditioning issues and gets winded as the game goes on. It is unclear if this is laziness, body type or something else.
5) They desperately tried to trade him at the deadline and may have agreed in principle to a top 20 protected first round pick for him. Other trades were made (specifically the Portland/Denver exchange of centers and the Cousins trade) that made no team interested in him. This created the very awkward situation of having him come back to the team after a trade has been announced.
6) With the emergence of Holmes and Embiid apparently healthy, there are very limited minutes for Okafor further depressing his opportunity to disprove all the points above.

Now we have people that are still suggesting we trade Smart, who if nothing else is an elite defender that has shown he can play serious minutes and help a team that made the ECF, plus apparently something else for a poor rebounding, poorly conditioned, horrible defensive players with ongoing injury concerns and an established value of late first round pick. I mean come on.....Lets trade Jerebro for Kevin Love while we are at it.

Thank you!  This pretty much encapsulates how I feel. I also can't understand how anyone can watch current NBA basketball and not realize that Okafor's skill set has very little value, especially in the playoffs when everyone goes even smaller than they usually do.  If we had Okafor against Washington, he would barely have seen the floor.  Can you imagine Wall and Beal going at Okafor in the pick & roll?  I would've been a blood bath.

I mean that is even a bigger level when talking about his long term career projections (although how Kanter was run off the floor in the Houston playoff series is a good example of what you are talking about). There just has to be a basic understanding of a player's injuries, situation and skill level before we throw out trade ideas. Maybe it would be worth throwing like Yab for him, project for project. I still wouldn't do that because of the contracts though.

Him for Smart the ship sailed like a year and a half ago.

[Ilikesports17]

I was all aboard the Okafor train as recently as last offseason, but this year has really torpedoed his value.

I still think hell eventually turn his career around, but he makes 0 sense for us right now, and his value is that of a couple second rounders.

[Ilikesports17]

If Colangelo calls for #1 and takes Simmons and Joel off the table, the conversation is basically over.

#3, Saric, and Lakers '18 is the only offer Im even considering.