There are more rumours about LeBron? What kind of argument is that?
Did Jordan have to deal with facebook and twitter? Today he would have faced the same stupid accusations from anyone who doesn't like him.
if we want to keep this fact based, there has been more physical reasons to think Lebron did some heavy supplementing legal or otherwise.
Leaving 3-4 games with cramps (most common symptom of these kinds of supplements)
Having a growth removed from his jaw
Having rapid weight gain and loss in one offseason (it was visually crazy)
Being probably the most muscular player in the entire league
Having some sort of connection to a controversial doctor in Florida
I don't think I have ever actually accused Lebron of doing them, and certainly don't think those things make it mean he did it.
Well said. And an unprecedented injury history:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2015/06/16/unbreakable-lebron-james-is-bizarrely-injury-proof/
that is just nonsense. When was Garnett, Malone, Duncan, Nowitzki, etc. injured. Oh you mean after they were 35 hmmm.
And the evidence clay has is also just nonsense. MJ got noticeably more buff in one off season. Tim Grover built his entire career on that one off season. In fact Jordan said he was tired of being pushed around and had to get stronger. What can make someone stronger very quickly. Hmm. Oh you mean the NBA didnt test for steroids in 1989. Hmm. MJ showed classic signs of roid rage especially with his anger and secretive nature. Played in a baseball clubhouse with 5 separate players named in the Mitchell Report (how it that much different than saying well this doctor had cheaters for clients so James must have also been a cheater).
And for the record I never said Jordan used steroids, I said if there was the internet all of the same things being said about James would have been said about Jordan for all of the reasons identified above.
Read the article. Comparisons are made to the players you listed. I've provided the same info as clay in prior threads, and I'm pretty sure I provided links to the scientific evidence clay mentioned. Taken together, it's definitely plausible that he has used PEDs. There's no need to take that personally - I'm sure a lot of players have been and are guilty of the same.
I didn't say it didn't I merely pointed out that it is all circumstantial with no real links of which Jordan has many of the same things. Jordan once left a finals game with cramps (apparently he wasn't properly hydrated). I guess that means he was on steroids. I mean if that is all it takes.
It is circumstantial evidence, but more substantial and stronger than any evidence provided that Jordan used PEDs. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan used PEDs either, or any professional athlete for that matter.
Despite my screen name, I'm actually not even a Jordan fan, just a UNC follower. As a Celts fan, I disliked Jordan for the entirety of his career. I do appreciate his greatness though and consider him the GOAT. Regardless, I think there's substantial evidence to speculate that LeBron used PEDs, and I wouldn't be shocked to read a report that many athletes have bent and/or violated the rules over time.
Yea this is generally how I feel also. If you notice it is one poster that
1) started a thread talking about how Lebron would like Pass Jordan in a stat
2) stated negative things about the teams Jordan played in the finals
3) levied the rumors/accusations that Jordan did steroids
4) talked up jordan's teammates calling Pippen better than wade etc
5) talked down Jordan's opposition in the east during his finals runs (knicks, cavs, pacers)
6) talked up Lebron's opposition including this years raptors and 2012 Celtics team that Lebron defeated because of their "hall of famers."
7) The NBA when Jordan played was in one of the worst period ever in the history of the NBA.
Now could anyone think one or two of these things? Sure. But if you are to believe them all it is obviously tied to an agenda as a Lebron fan and it is a bit tiresome.
Lebron is one of the greatest players ever. His performance in this years playoffs have been awesome. His performance in last years finals was also awesome.
However, this rush to call him the best ever at this point is just silly and as other have shared in, no objective media sight has Lebron above Jordan at this time. It is a tiresome argument right now and it is particularly frustrating cause this seems to tie into the theme of today's world where we are always in a rush to declare something the best ever.
To give an example separate of this, I am a patriots fan growing up in Rhode Island, but even I could tell it was ridiculous when people wanted to call Brady the best ever after his initial 3 titles. He still had a lot to prove at that point both in terms of statistics, longevity and more titles. Now that he is 40 and has won two more titles he really has a fair case. Arguing it when was 28-29 was not fair.
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