And That Is Why You Trade for Paul George

[Chris22]

Yesterday was an aberration. The 2nd and 3rd quarters were some of the worst basketball I've seen this team play this season. There was a lack of focus and it was evidenced by the easy baskets we surrendered. We weren't communicating at all and weren't properly switching or rotating on off the ball action.

We are intimidated by Lebron. Grow some stones, Celtics.

[PhoSita]

. . . . not if you have to trade your best draft asset, your best prospect, and two of your key rotation players.

[kraidstar]

Yesterday was an aberration. The 2nd and 3rd quarters were some of the worst basketball I've seen this team play this season. There was a lack of focus and it was evidenced by the easy baskets we surrendered. We weren't communicating at all and weren't properly switching or rotating on off the ball action.

We are intimidated by Lebron. Grow some stones, Celtics.

I agree.

Though of course we do need more  stars to win a title.

That being said, we panicked last night, it was embarrassing. We need better composure, we wouldn't have beaten the Suns, Nets, or Lakers the way we played, the team was frozen and out of sync. The mental aspect is enormous.
 
Hopefully it will be a good learning experience.

[PhoSita]

No, it's NOT.

Would you trade 2017 BKN Pick, and 3 of Smart, Brown, Crowder and Bradley for him?

If you say yes, then idk what to say honestly.

It reportedly also took taking on Monta Ellis' contract to land George. I like George, I'd love to see him in green, but that's a hang up the phone offer.

It's a "Are you desperate enough to put your job and the future of your franchise in jeopardy in order to trade for my superstar who's gonna be gone in a year or so?" type of offer.

That's the type of offer Danny likes to make. It's not the kind of deal he makes on the other side of it.

[Big333223]

No, it's NOT.

Would you trade 2017 BKN Pick, and 3 of Smart, Brown, Crowder and Bradley for him?

If you say yes, then idk what to say honestly.

It reportedly also took taking on Monta Ellis' contract to land George. I like George, I'd love to see him in green, but that's a hang up the phone offer.

It's a "Are you desperate enough to put your job and the future of your franchise in jeopardy in order to trade for my superstar who's gonna be gone in a year or so?" type of offer.

That's the type of offer Danny likes to make. It's not the kind of deal he makes on the other side of it.

Yep.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to that asking price this summer if George gives an indication he might not be long for Indy.

[chiken Green]

Stay the course..

  Pg13 is not enough against Lebron especially When Lebron plays like he did last night (as he does in the playoff's) It will way more than 1 other player to beat him.  This guy *Lebron) has beaten Westbrook/Durant, Curry/Klaye/Draymond (and this year will probably beat Curry/Klaye/Draymond and Durant this year..)

When he turns it on he is just too much for nearly every team in the NBA.. To legitimately compete you need either a Goldenstate Roster (3 elite players collected through the draft with 1 major free agent) or you need the best player in the NBA (K Leonard imho) mixed with seasoned tried and proven system with a bunch of Vets with a winning Pedigree.

Danny is building a spurs like team.. one that will honestly compete for a chip for the next decade.. you need Elite players for this.. Brown is #1.. This years draft will land us #2.. We have to get lucky with the Third..   This is why We brought in Brad Stevens and gave him the long deal.. We were going to develop youth, that has always been the plan in my eyes.
 

[Phantom255x]

No, it's NOT.

Would you trade 2017 BKN Pick, and 3 of Smart, Brown, Crowder and Bradley for him?

If you say yes, then idk what to say honestly.

It reportedly also took taking on Monta Ellis' contract to land George. I like George, I'd love to see him in green, but that's a hang up the phone offer.

It's a "Are you desperate enough to put your job and the future of your franchise in jeopardy in order to trade for my superstar who's gonna be gone in a year or so?" type of offer.

That's the type of offer Danny likes to make. It's not the kind of deal he makes on the other side of it.

Yep.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to that asking price this summer if George gives an indication he might not be long for Indy.

Well he better agree to a long term commitment then, otherwise no way Ainge is trading assets for a guy who could just bolt for LAL after next season in 2018.

[PhoSita]

Yeah, to be honest I think the real target is Butler, Danny was just using Indiana as leverage in talks for Butler.

Not sure Larry was really playing ball with him or not, given the rumors about the asking price.  But there was a lot of smoke about Paul George potentially getting moved.


My goal for this summer would be to use the 2017 BRK pick and then trade the 2018 BRK pick along with Bradley and peripheral pieces (e.g. Jackson, Rozier, Mickey, Yabu, Zizic, etc) for Jimmy Butler.


If you trade for Butler, maybe that gives you some chance at signing Taj Gibson?  Not sure if there'd be cap space. 

But imagine the starting lineup is Thomas, Butler, Crowder, Gibson, Horford, with Smart, Fultz, Brown, Olynyk, Zizic on the bench.

That team would be good.

[csfansince60s]

.....................My goal for this summer would be to use the 2017 BRK pick and then trade the 2018 BRK pick along with Bradley and peripheral pieces (e.g. Jackson, Rozier, Mickey, Yabu, Zizic, etc) for Jimmy Butler.............

Given George's desire to contend and Bird's inability to build a contender around him and the Fakers having the same problem (they won't be a contender for 5 years), I think that we would be very attractive as a destination for George both short and long term, and that Bird will see the writing on the wall about George staying there and could trade him for a Butler-type value package as proposed above.

I would also go hard after Hayward/Milsap (Griffin's injury history scares the crap out of me, and he's the least likely of those 3 to come here, anyway).

IT/Smart
Hayward/Brown
Crowder/Jackson
George/KO
Horford/Zizic

or

IT/Fultz
Smart/Brown
George/Crowder
Milsap/KO
Horford/Zizic

I like both those line-ups but prefer the second.

[Big333223]

Yeah, to be honest I think the real target is Butler, Danny was just using Indiana as leverage in talks for Butler.

Not sure Larry was really playing ball with him or not, given the rumors about the asking price.  But there was a lot of smoke about Paul George potentially getting moved.


My goal for this summer would be to use the 2017 BRK pick and then trade the 2018 BRK pick along with Bradley and peripheral pieces (e.g. Jackson, Rozier, Mickey, Yabu, Zizic, etc) for Jimmy Butler.


If you trade for Butler, maybe that gives you some chance at signing Taj Gibson?  Not sure if there'd be cap space. 

But imagine the starting lineup is Thomas, Butler, Crowder, Gibson, Horford, with Smart, Fultz, Brown, Olynyk, Zizic on the bench.

That team would be good.

That sounds like a pretty nice plan going forward. Gibson will be 32 this summer, though. How much is it going to cost and for how long would the C's have to be paying him?

[PhoSita]

Yeah, to be honest I think the real target is Butler, Danny was just using Indiana as leverage in talks for Butler.

Not sure Larry was really playing ball with him or not, given the rumors about the asking price.  But there was a lot of smoke about Paul George potentially getting moved.


My goal for this summer would be to use the 2017 BRK pick and then trade the 2018 BRK pick along with Bradley and peripheral pieces (e.g. Jackson, Rozier, Mickey, Yabu, Zizic, etc) for Jimmy Butler.


If you trade for Butler, maybe that gives you some chance at signing Taj Gibson?  Not sure if there'd be cap space. 

But imagine the starting lineup is Thomas, Butler, Crowder, Gibson, Horford, with Smart, Fultz, Brown, Olynyk, Zizic on the bench.

That team would be good.

That sounds like a pretty nice plan going forward. Gibson will be 32 this summer, though. How much is it going to cost and for how long would the C's have to be paying him?

Ideally you could sign Gibson to a deal like the one they gave Amir a couple years ago, only with higher AAV. 

Perhaps something like 2 years / $30 million.

Gibson is even older than Amir, but he doesn't have a lot of miles on him.  He just had perhaps his best season yet at age 31.  I think he would solve a lot of issues for the Celts.

[The Oracle]

I knew as soon as we had a 20-19 lead and KO came in the lead would be gone. They destroyed us from that point forward.

He is the Marshmallow Man.  If I were him I'd spend the entire offseason in the weight room and come back in beast mode.  Maybe he's just built like Pierce who could never get any real muscle tone, but good lord KO needs to get some strength.  KLove just destroys him.

K.O. shared the floor with Love for 7 minutes yesterday against the Cavs.  In those 7 minutes Love was 0-5 from the field, 0-3 from 3, 2-2 from the line, had 4 defensive rebounds and 0 offensive with 0 assists....

[chilidawg]

No, it's NOT.

Would you trade 2017 BKN Pick, and 3 of Smart, Brown, Crowder and Bradley for him?

If you say yes, then idk what to say honestly.

2017 and one of Smart, Crowder or Bradley, maybe some non Brooklyn firsts or Rozier.

[chilidawg]

I knew as soon as we had a 20-19 lead and KO came in the lead would be gone. They destroyed us from that point forward.

He is the Marshmallow Man.  If I were him I'd spend the entire offseason in the weight room and come back in beast mode.  Maybe he's just built like Pierce who could never get any real muscle tone, but good lord KO needs to get some strength.  KLove just destroys him.

K.O. shared the floor with Love for 7 minutes yesterday against the Cavs.  In those 7 minutes Love was 0-5 from the field, 0-3 from 3, 2-2 from the line, had 4 defensive rebounds and 0 offensive with 0 assists....

Don't interrupt with your alternative facts.

[No Nickname]

My goal for this summer would be to use the 2017 BRK pick and then trade the 2018 BRK pick along with Bradley and peripheral pieces (e.g. Jackson, Rozier, Mickey, Yabu, Zizic, etc) for Jimmy Butler.

Totally agree.  The 2018 pick could be a gamechanger if it were a top two pick, but that's what the 2017 pick will hopefully be.  But the 2018 pick could also be #7 and a bust. 

Roll the dice and get into the ECF with Butler in 2018.