Do you wish sometimes the IT4 trade never happened?

[feckless]

I think this might win CRAZIEST THREAD OF THE YEAR AWARD.

I wanted to emphasize this post!

[Evantime34]

No of course not.  That is just silly.

I will say this, without that trade, Boston likely doesn't make the playoffs two years ago and thus would likely have Winslow or Turner instead of Rozier.  That would have been the only real positive.

Can you imagine the state of the blog if we'd drafted Winslow right now? We probably would have Dunn in place of Jaylen, and would be picking mid-lottery with no end in sight to losing.

Fascinating how soon people forgot what the Draft Savant was willing to give up to pick Winslow.

But I digress. We're supposed to forget all of Ainge's draft mistakes. Doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm a big fan of Ainge, but that opinion is also shaped by the fact that he has gotten extremely lucky. There are moves he wanted to make that didn't happen that would have been disastrous.

His biggest strengths are his luck, patience and fearlessness. Granted he's probably more able to be lucky and fearless because of his job security.

On Roy's comment, I bet a some people on the blog would have been happier if things had turned out like that (which is baffling to me). The outcry of support for Dunn, mostly because pundits thought we should pick him was annoying to say the least.

I am actually a big fan of Trader Danny, although it would appear he's an even bigger fan of Trader Danny.

His alleged drafting acumen has been blown out of all proportion on this board, to levels only seen here in the rhapsodizing about the max contract Rondo deserved.

And we all know how that one worked out.

Grading him as a drafter is difficult because drafting is difficult. Ainge's selections on average outperform their draft position, but that just means he's better than average.

I'd rather have Ainge trade than draft because players already in the league are known quantities where draft picks are not. Part of what makes Ainge a good trader is he's not willing to accept a deal unless it is on his terms. The problem is, if another GM doesn't meet his terms he has to use his draft picks and it's easier to determine a current NBA players value than the value of a draft prospect.

[oldtype]

I think he's about an average drafter.  He hits on about as many picks as you'd expect relative to drafting position.

Complaining about Danny's drafting is a bit like comparing about Lebron's three-point jump shot.  It's not as bad as you think and if that's his biggest weakness you're more than willing to live with it.

[GratefulCs]

No of course not.  That is just silly.

I will say this, without that trade, Boston likely doesn't make the playoffs two years ago and thus would likely have Winslow or Turner instead of Rozier.  That would have been the only real positive.

Can you imagine the state of the blog if we'd drafted Winslow right now? We probably would have Dunn in place of Jaylen, and would be picking mid-lottery with no end in sight to losing.

Fascinating how soon people forgot what the Draft Savant was willing to give up to pick Winslow.

But I digress. We're supposed to forget all of Ainge's draft mistakes. Doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm a big fan of Ainge, but that opinion is also shaped by the fact that he has gotten extremely lucky. There are moves he wanted to make that didn't happen that would have been disastrous.

His biggest strengths are his luck, patience and fearlessness. Granted he's probably more able to be lucky and fearless because of his job security.

On Roy's comment, I bet a some people on the blog would have been happier if things had turned out like that (which is baffling to me). The outcry of support for Dunn, mostly because pundits thought we should pick him was annoying to say the least.

I am actually a big fan of Trader Danny, although it would appear he's an even bigger fan of Trader Danny.

His alleged drafting acumen has been blown out of all proportion on this board, to levels only seen here in the rhapsodizing about the max contract Rondo deserved.

And we all know how that one worked out.

no one is saying he's the best drafter

but apparently there are a few people her who feel he should have grabbed  a superstar with all those mid 20s picks....

by the way, do you still hate the brown pick? curious...

[GratefulCs]

I think he's about an average drafter.  He hits on about as many picks as you'd expect relative to drafting position.

Complaining about Danny's drafting is a bit like comparing about Lebron's three-point jump shot.  It's not as bad as you think and if that's his biggest weakness you're more than willing to live with it.

pretty dang accurate

T freaking P

[Future Celtics Owner]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

[Ilikesports17]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

Ainge seemed enamored with Winslow. I dont think missing the playoffs would have gotten us Turner.

Perhaps it gets you Winslow over Rozier.

Hunter had nothing to do with any of this.

[Moranis]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

Ainge seemed enamored with Winslow. I dont think missing the playoffs would have gotten us Turner.

Perhaps it gets you Winslow over Rozier.

Hunter had nothing to do with any of this.

winslow might have been off the board and I can't see him taking Rozier that high, which is why I said Winslow or Turner in my initial post in this thread.

[Eddie20]

For what reason?

Do you wish we would have been in the lottery for the past two seasons and acquired more top tier young players?

Ummmm...of course he does. Triboy was a devout tanker and has been advocating ridiculous trades so that we could start all rookie lineups for years. Just check his old posts.

Wait, you mean to tell me you weren't excited to see Triboy's idea of having a starting frontline of Mickey ("more athletic Taj Gibson"), Sabonis ("better version of prime David West"), and Aaron Gordon ("Blake Griffin with a higher IQ") come to pass?

[Ilikesports17]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

Ainge seemed enamored with Winslow. I dont think missing the playoffs would have gotten us Turner.

Perhaps it gets you Winslow over Rozier.

Hunter had nothing to do with any of this.

winslow might have been off the board and I can't see him taking Rozier that high, which is why I said Winslow or Turner in my initial post in this thread.

Winslow went 10th and if Boston had missed the playoffs they would have picked to later than 12th.

I think Ainge would have traded up and got Winslow one way or another.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I've been very grateful for the IT trade since I gave up day drinking.

I do wish Mickey Mania never happened, though.  We regressed as a blog for a while there.

[Phantom255x]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

Ainge seemed enamored with Winslow. I dont think missing the playoffs would have gotten us Turner.

Perhaps it gets you Winslow over Rozier.

Hunter had nothing to do with any of this.

Yeah, so we don't have IT, miss playoffs, draft Turner... and then when we keep losing a few years later, people would advocate we trade Myles Turner for someone else.. 

[Ilikesports17]

The better question is do you wish we never made the playoffs that year. After so much time repressing the negligent move by Ainge to keep(not waive/cut/buy-out)  ET, Jonas, Gigi, and BASS...especially after the trade deadline.

Remember I use to end all my posts with: draft Myles Turner. But it's okay because Ainge completely stole RJ Hunter...

youve also got to remember it means no Crowder, no Amir, probably no playoffs last year, no Durant meeting and no Horford.

I would not trade Horford, Crowder, Johnson, Rozier(lol), and Isaiah Thomas for Myles Turner.

[bopna]

Why does threads like this happen whenever we get bombed by a team we were suppose to beat.

Hindsight is very difficult to project what kind of team we would have had by now but I do know one thing..b4 IT we are a crap middle of nowhere team and that by now..without IT we would still be searching for an alpha dog instead of trying to pair IT with one...also obviously Horford does not come, Durant wouldn't have met us and we are stuck at mediocrity instead of being a second seed team that is fun to watch and is a lebron tweeked ankle away from a Finals berth....you never know.

[CoachBo]

No of course not.  That is just silly.

I will say this, without that trade, Boston likely doesn't make the playoffs two years ago and thus would likely have Winslow or Turner instead of Rozier.  That would have been the only real positive.

Can you imagine the state of the blog if we'd drafted Winslow right now? We probably would have Dunn in place of Jaylen, and would be picking mid-lottery with no end in sight to losing.

Fascinating how soon people forgot what the Draft Savant was willing to give up to pick Winslow.

But I digress. We're supposed to forget all of Ainge's draft mistakes. Doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm a big fan of Ainge, but that opinion is also shaped by the fact that he has gotten extremely lucky. There are moves he wanted to make that didn't happen that would have been disastrous.

His biggest strengths are his luck, patience and fearlessness. Granted he's probably more able to be lucky and fearless because of his job security.

On Roy's comment, I bet a some people on the blog would have been happier if things had turned out like that (which is baffling to me). The outcry of support for Dunn, mostly because pundits thought we should pick him was annoying to say the least.

I am actually a big fan of Trader Danny, although it would appear he's an even bigger fan of Trader Danny.

His alleged drafting acumen has been blown out of all proportion on this board, to levels only seen here in the rhapsodizing about the max contract Rondo deserved.

And we all know how that one worked out.

no one is saying he's the best drafter

but apparently there are a few people her who feel he should have grabbed  a superstar with all those mid 20s picks....

by the way, do you still hate the brown pick? curious...

I would have drafted Dunn and traded him to Chicago in the Butler deal with a song in my heart.

Jury is more than still out on Jaylen Brown, so I'm not going to join this blog in dusting off a spot for him in the Hall of Fame.