Report:Magic trying hard to trade Ibaka

[Androslav]

How about?

BOS
12,00 mil $ Amir
  1,91 mil $ Rozier

ORL
12,25 mil $ Ibaka

I'd rather give them some of our own future first-rounders than Rozier. The salaries work without him.

Me too. I just think that they would like a PG with lower tier starting job upside on the timeline with Gordon.
Our picks that go beyond this year may be too far away from them. Who knows what their management is up too. Maybe their owner will also go in a diferent direction soon.
However, I would keep the Memphis pick out of the deal and would sweeten the deal with this years MIN 2. round pick if needed. If there is a race.

[Moranis]

I'd probably do something like this even if it was a rental.

Ibaka

for

Yabu, Bos 2018 1st, and then for salary Zeller, Young

I'm sure that isn't enough, but I wouldn't do much more than that for a rental (maybe the Minnesota 2017 2nd or really any of the 2017 2nd's), which I believe Ibaka to be.

It certainly has to be enough for a 1/2 season rental. They can't possibly expect more than that. And it will improve us now.

It doesn't have to be enough at all.  Orlando might very well say if that is all we can get, we are going to keep him.

Why would they do that? If he is in their long range plans they wouldn't be trying to trade him. Obviously they are going nowhere this year so he is a wasted asset. 1/2 season rental on a non-superstar doesn't get you much. Be happy with the best offer you can get which won't be much.

teams gauge interest on players all the time. 

[oldtype]

Poor rebounder and not really switchy anymore so I don't think he's a fit here.  Would work well in Toronto though.

[SparzWizard]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690140-serge-ibaka-trade-rumors-latest-news-speculation-surrounding-magic-pf

Got to have interest, right? He's a better OVERALL fit than Melo, though Melo is certainly a better offensive fit.

So many options with potential trades to consider right now! This trade deadline could be nuts with so many potential guys on the market.

Serge Ibaka basically a Roy Hibbert in a PF body.

[vjcsmoke]

IF Ibaka is available on the cheap, I'd do this deal.

The deal makes us better today, and we don't have to resign him in the offseason if we are trying to sign a marquee free agent.

Not a great rebounder but a good floor spacer, free throw shooter, and decent shotblocker.

He's no longer the 3 block per game beast that he was when he was 22/23, but 1.6 blocks per game is pretty decent.  Him and Horford together could really clog that lane.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ibakase01.html

Tyler Zeller + James Young plus a draft pick work capwise.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jdcbphm

[bogg]

IF Ibaka is available on the cheap, I'd do this deal.

The deal makes us better today, and we don't have to resign him in the offseason if we are trying to sign a marquee free agent.

Not a great rebounder but a good floor spacer, free throw shooter, and decent shotblocker.

He's no longer the 3 block per game beast that he was when he was 22/23, but 1.6 blocks per game is pretty decent.  Him and Horford together could really clog that lane.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ibakase01.html

Tyler Zeller + James Young plus a draft pick work capwise.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jdcbphm

I mean, if it's a Brooklyn pick they'd be all over it, but we know it won't be and so there's no deal to be made. Orlando won't just move him for expirings and a late first.

[hodgy03038]

IF Ibaka is available on the cheap, I'd do this deal.

The deal makes us better today, and we don't have to resign him in the offseason if we are trying to sign a marquee free agent.

Not a great rebounder but a good floor spacer, free throw shooter, and decent shotblocker.

He's no longer the 3 block per game beast that he was when he was 22/23, but 1.6 blocks per game is pretty decent.  Him and Horford together could really clog that lane.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ibakase01.html

Tyler Zeller + James Young plus a draft pick work capwise.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jdcbphm

I mean, if it's a Brooklyn pick they'd be all over it, but we know it won't be and so there's no deal to be made. Orlando won't just move him for expirings and a late first.

I disagree. They can't expect much for this guy. Doesn't sound like he is in their long range plans so if they get anything of value it's a win. Don't even mention a Brooklyn pick because  that would be ridiculous if they even thought he was worth that.

[Big333223]

He'd be a definitely be an upgrade for our roster today but, at what cost? I don't want any part of giving him the max deal he'll be looking for next summer and he doesn't help with the rebounding issues.

I'd rather go after Vucevic.

[sdceltsfan]

Why not trade for both? This could be a great buy-low opportunity to compete for a title this season, facilitate a trade that consolidates our roster now for when we have to add 2017 pick, Zizic, Yabu in to the fold.

Orlando trades: Vucevic and Ibaka

Boston trades: Amir, KO, Rozier, Jerbeko, Mickey, Rights to Nader, Boston 2018, Clippers 2019, Min 2nd

(trade also works by subbing in Zeller for Amir, if Orlando had interest in Zeller as a prospect)

Orlando gets cap flexibility from moving Vucevic for Amir/Jerbeko's expiring deals. KO is also expiring, but they can offer him a mid-level deal and is a decent piece to their rebuild. Rozier and Mickey are two more promising prospects that NEED minutes that they just aren't going to ever get with our current roster (especially Rozier if we draft Fultz/Ball). They also get more draft stock that they will desperately need.

Trade is an obvious upgrade for Boston, and is only possible if Orlando is truly looking to acquire assets for guys that are not part of their 5-year plan. We address our rebounding and rim protection issues in a big way by adding not only Ibaka to start next to Horford, but also Vucevic, who can keep both guys fresh, also spot-start, and is a huge insurance policy in case of an injury.

New rotation is dope:

IT/Smart/Jackson
Bradley/Smart/Brown/Young
Crowder/Brown/Green
Ibaka/Horford
Horford/Vucevic/Zeller

Maybe I'm over-hyping this squad, but I think it can definitely hang with Cleveland in a 7-game series, and the size would give the Warriors fits.

When the season ends, we still retain Vucevic. Ibaka can be re-evaluated. Best case scenario: he is revived, we win a title, and he gets a close to max deal as the missing complimentary big man we have needed. Worst case: we get bounced in the ECF by Cleveland like most people expect anyway, Ibaka walks, and we call up Zizic and Yabu to see if they can provide some help to the boards.

This also leaves the door open for the home-run swing for Jimmy Butler.....Smart, Jackson, rights to Yabu, BKN 2018 or something along those lines....

[bogg]

I disagree. They can't expect much for this guy. Doesn't sound like he is in their long range plans so if they get anything of value it's a win. Don't even mention a Brooklyn pick because  that would be ridiculous if they even thought he was worth that.

Unless it's a good draft pick, dead salary and a draft pick aren't likely getting it done. This isn't like the Carmelo thing where New York has it's hands tied because of a no-trade clause, Boston will have to outbid the entire market and there are teams who aren't currently projected to have cap space for whom Ibaka's bird rights would actually mean a lot (Toronto immediately comes to mind, as does Charlotte). Couple that with the price their GM gave up to get him at the draft and trading Ibaka for Zeller and Boston's own 2018 pick is just a good way to get fired if you're Rob Hennigan.

[td450]

We will have only one more swing at the plate in free agency for the foreseeable future, and I think its crazy not to use it on a big. If you accept that premise, you quickly realize there are really only two guys we have a shot at that are worth discussing: Milsap and Ibaka.

Milsap is clearly better right now, but he will cost more and his game is built on the premise that he is quicker than any of the power forwards he plays against, and the clock is ticking on that advantage. He will be 32 next year at the start of his contract

I think Ibaka makes more sense. He's 4 years (we think) younger, and a much bigger guy. He can hold his spot and cover centers, but he's still quick enough to cover power forwards out to the 3 point line. We would go from weak inside to imposing. He would improve our defense and our offense significantly. His age fits the team's immediate window, and he's still an elite athlete. Most importantly, he's a guy that is a bad matchup for GS and Cleveland. We saw how Oklahoma's bigs gave GS fits last year, and he was a major part of that.

We add Ibaka as a starter and Zizic as a bench player and we aren't wimps inside any more.

[bogg]

We will have only one more swing at the plate in free agency for the foreseeable future, and I think its crazy not to use it on a big. If you accept that premise, you quickly realize there are really only two guys we have a shot at that are worth discussing: Milsap and Ibaka.

Milsap is clearly better right now, but he will cost more and his game is built on the premise that he is quicker than any of the power forwards he plays against, and the clock is ticking on that advantage. He will be 32 next year at the start of his contract

I think Ibaka makes more sense. He's 4 years (we think) younger, and a much bigger guy. He can hold his spot and cover centers, but he's still quick enough to cover power forwards out to the 3 point line. We would go from weak inside to imposing. He would improve our defense and our offense significantly. His age fits the team's immediate window, and he's still an elite athlete. Most importantly, he's a guy that is a bad matchup for GS and Cleveland. We saw how Oklahoma's bigs gave GS fits last year, and he was a major part of that.

We add Ibaka as a starter and Zizic as a bench player and we aren't wimps inside any more.

Well, waiting out the rest of the season and signing Ibaka for cap space is a different thing entirely. If Boston doesn't make any big moves this year and goes into the summer sitting on a big pile of space I don't mind taking a swing on Serge (although a full four-year deal would make me nervous), I just don't want to trade a bunch for him and don't think Hennigan can survive turning Oladipo and a lottery pick into a late first 8 months later.

[jpotter33]

http://hoopshabit.com/2017/02/02/serge-ibaka-trade-rumors-5-teams-trade-magic-pf/5/

HoopsHabit suggests that something like Zeller/Amir and the Memphis pick is all it would take to get Ibaka. If so, I'd be jumping on that deal.

[oldtype]

http://hoopshabit.com/2017/02/02/serge-ibaka-trade-rumors-5-teams-trade-magic-pf/5/

HoopsHabit suggests that something like Zeller/Amir and the Memphis pick is all it would take to get Ibaka. If so, I'd be jumping on that deal.

Yeah I'd perhaps be down for him as a one-year rental if that's the cost.  Would probably rather give away Rozier than the Memphis pick.

[steve]

I think most GM's know that Ibaka is more like 32 than 27. No one is going to pay him next year. As a rental this year, he's not a terrible idea.