Would Brown be second best rookie with more playing time?

[celticsclay]

I realize this is a tiny sample size, but in the recent games Brown has gotten starter minutes as he would on some of the rebuilding teams (Miami, Nets, perhaps Orlando with all of Fournier's injuries), he has put up really solid numbers. Could he keep this up long term in 30 minutes a game at the 2?
15 points and 8 rebounds a game in two games we won. That would clearly make him the second best rookie. If Embiid continued to get shut down with minor injuries and rest and Brown played a full season he would certainly get ROY votes at those stats. 

[Moranis]

way too small a sample size.  His per 36 numbers rank him outside of the top ten in most categories.

[nickagneta]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

[Moranis]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

the opposite is also sometimes true.  I mean how much better would Ingram's or Hield's or Murray's shooting be playing on a much better team with a more limited role?  There are pros and cons to both methods.  I'm personally of the belief that players reach their potential faster by playing more minutes and having a larger role.  Of course, Brown just might be better than those guys in which case playing time doesn't make much difference long term.

[celticsclay]

way too small a sample size.  His per 36 numbers rank him outside of the top ten in most categories.

I agree the sample size is too small. However he will get a few more starts this week. If he continues to put up numbers like he has the last few games I will be very impressed and he will continue to climb the rookie ranking.

[jambr380]

I feel comfortable saying yes to this question. I think most of us have been pleasantly surprised by Jaylen's poise and ability to create off the dribble. Other than Simmons (and obviously Embiid), are there any other rookies that we should be clamoring for? Danny seems to have made a very good decision with a pick that was so open to ridicule (figuring out which one of the six prospects to take from #3-8).

It can be frustrating having a rookie with so much potential not getting more playing time, but hopefully it is for the best in his long-term development. Not getting selected to the Rising Stars game means absolutely nothing.

[LGC88]

It's one thing to play free as a rookie to a team that the priority is to develop players.
It's another thing to play like Jaylen in Boston where he knows he'll get bench very fast when he makes mistakes.
If Jaylen was in a bottom team, he'll take to the hoop and make fadeway more often, and probably make decent numbers.
Booker is a perfect example, he get great number his first year, but everyone was playing on him to score. His defense wasn't good at all.
That's why I'm not really paying attention to rookies and how they rank.

[tankcity!]

He's the next Michael Jordan

[Ilikesports17]

He's the next Michael Jordan

lol

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Doubt he'd be better than Brogdan. He shouldn't be FWIW as Brogdan is significantly older, but in terms of rookie/production I think the answer is pretty clearly no.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Jaylen is still learning, but I like that we give him these big runs in the beginning of the games so he can see what it takes.  He needs to get his moves down and be gunning for people a little harder, but overall, I like what I see.  He really needs to exploit matchups with his athleticism a little more.

[trickybilly]

He looks downright hilarious on the defensive end at the moment. He got caught on a switch and literally had no idea where his man was for about 3 seconds.

His 1 on 1 D is OK though..

[crimson_stallion]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

I like Brown, but to be honest I think that saying "heis contributing to a team that might go deep in the playoffs" is pushing it.

I mean technically he IS contributing - he's playing solid minutes off the bench, and his percentages are pretty solid.  But it's not like he's been a difference maker, or like he's made us a better team. 

For example, would we be any worse off if we benched Brown and gave his minutes to Green instead?  Or if we re-signed Turner and gave those minutes to Turner instead?  I don't think so. 

So contributing...I guess.  Making an impact...mmmm not so much.

It's not the same situation for example as Marcus Smart, who played > 25 MPG as a rookie, as a starting PG, on a playoff team.  I felt Smart made a consistent impact for us in his rookie year, and I wouldn't say the same about Brown.  Solid game here and there among a sea of mediocre games.

Not trying to be a downer or suggest that he doesn't have potential - just saying that I would use the phrase "contributing to a playoff team" loosely when it comes to Brown, even if I do like what I've seen from him so far.   

[mr. dee]

He looks downright hilarious on the defensive end at the moment. He got caught on a switch and literally had no idea where his man was for about 3 seconds.

His 1 on 1 D is OK though..

I think many rookies will have hard time grasping Steven's schemes and Jaylen is actually doing better than expected.

[crimson_stallion]

He looks downright hilarious on the defensive end at the moment. He got caught on a switch and literally had no idea where his man was for about 3 seconds.

His 1 on 1 D is OK though..

I think many rookies will have hard time grasping Steven's schemes and Jaylen is actually doing better than expected.

Yeah, I don't hold that against Brown.

If you look at Defensive Real Plus Minus stats you'll see that as a general rule most players are right at the bottom of the league in their rookie years - Wiggins, Parker and Aaron Gordon were all near the bottom at their position as rookies in that category.

The rare handful of rookies who DON'T have terrible advanced defensive stats as rookies are usually guys who have special defensive talent - like Smart, Elfrid Payton, Nerlens Noel, Anthony Davis, etc.

Any time there's a 19-20 year old rookie coming into the league, I expect it will take them a year or so to pick up team defensive schemes.  As much as I'm down on Smart lately, that is one thing about him that is incredibly impressive - he's got really, really good defensive IQ.