Would Brown be second best rookie with more playing time?

[Csfan1984]

He is showing the second best potential right now. I don't know if he is that though. Simmons hasn't played. And he when ever not playing well can just sit.

[BE-Celtic]

He's the next Michael Jordan

"Michael Jordan was a third pick"
- Isaiah Thomas

[CelticGuardian]

With only three games where he's played starter's minutes:

Vs MIL, 9 pts 8 rbs 1 ast 2 stls 1 blk

Vs ORL, 20 pts 8 rbs 2 ast

Vs CLE, 19 pts 5 rbs 2 ast 3 stls 1 blk

Averages out to 16 pts 7 rbs 1.6 ast 2.3 stls 0.6 blks

That'll be good for the best showing out of his class so far. Obviously, this is not an accurate depiction of what he would look like as a starter right now playing (30 mins a game), but its all the sample size we have.

[nickagneta]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

I like Brown, but to be honest I think that saying "heis contributing to a team that might go deep in the playoffs" is pushing it.

I mean technically he IS contributing - he's playing solid minutes off the bench, and his percentages are pretty solid.  But it's not like he's been a difference maker, or like he's made us a better team. 

For example, would we be any worse off if we benched Brown and gave his minutes to Green instead?  Or if we re-signed Turner and gave those minutes to Turner instead?  I don't think so. 

So contributing...I guess.  Making an impact...mmmm not so much.

It's not the same situation for example as Marcus Smart, who played > 25 MPG as a rookie, as a starting PG, on a playoff team.  I felt Smart made a consistent impact for us in his rookie year, and I wouldn't say the same about Brown.  Solid game here and there among a sea of mediocre games.

Not trying to be a downer or suggest that he doesn't have potential - just saying that I would use the phrase "contributing to a playoff team" loosely when it comes to Brown, even if I do like what I've seen from him so far.   

So as a 20 year old rookie he is contrubuting as much as seasoned role playing vets?!?! Okay, I will take that.

[trickybilly]

He looks downright hilarious on the defensive end at the moment. He got caught on a switch and literally had no idea where his man was for about 3 seconds.

His 1 on 1 D is OK though..

I think many rookies will have hard time grasping Steven's schemes and Jaylen is actually doing better than expected.

Yeah, I don't hold that against Brown.

If you look at Defensive Real Plus Minus stats you'll see that as a general rule most players are right at the bottom of the league in their rookie years - Wiggins, Parker and Aaron Gordon were all near the bottom at their position as rookies in that category.

The rare handful of rookies who DON'T have terrible advanced defensive stats as rookies are usually guys who have special defensive talent - like Smart, Elfrid Payton, Nerlens Noel, Anthony Davis, etc.

Any time there's a 19-20 year old rookie coming into the league, I expect it will take them a year or so to pick up team defensive schemes.  As much as I'm down on Smart lately, that is one thing about him that is incredibly impressive - he's got really, really good defensive IQ.

Smart has incredible offensive IQ too. If he ever learns to shoot, he will be multi-year all star.

[TrueFan]

I got him ranked second going by the eye test.

I think if you put him on a team like the Suns, Magic, Heat or any other team who would value development over winning he would be averaging 12 or more a game.

[CoachBo]

He's the next Michael Jordan

I'll take that bet.

[jambr380]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

I like Brown, but to be honest I think that saying "heis contributing to a team that might go deep in the playoffs" is pushing it.

I mean technically he IS contributing - he's playing solid minutes off the bench, and his percentages are pretty solid.  But it's not like he's been a difference maker, or like he's made us a better team. 

For example, would we be any worse off if we benched Brown and gave his minutes to Green instead?  Or if we re-signed Turner and gave those minutes to Turner instead?  I don't think so. 

So contributing...I guess.  Making an impact...mmmm not so much.

It's not the same situation for example as Marcus Smart, who played > 25 MPG as a rookie, as a starting PG, on a playoff team.  I felt Smart made a consistent impact for us in his rookie year, and I wouldn't say the same about Brown.  Solid game here and there among a sea of mediocre games.

Not trying to be a downer or suggest that he doesn't have potential - just saying that I would use the phrase "contributing to a playoff team" loosely when it comes to Brown, even if I do like what I've seen from him so far.   

Smart was also on a team missing its starting PG and basically attempting to tank again until IT and Crowder came to town at the trade deadline. Comparing that team to this year's team is very questionable - that team was never supposed to come close to the  playoffs.

And Jaylen definitely is contributing. He has started and played solid minutes these past few games and we are winning. Just because he is not IT does not mean he is not contributing.

[PaulAllen]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

[wdleehi]

By the end of the season, yes. 

[Moranis]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

[tankcity!]

He's the next Michael Jordan

I'll take that bet.

It was just a joke old man. God you're out of touch. Now make sure you have your prune juice this morning.

[tankcity!]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right. 

[Moranis]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes. 

[tankcity!]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes.

Can you describe his personality? He seems pretty aggressive to me actually. He takes a good amount of shots for the minutes he plays. Maybe you're confusing his minutes for shot attempts?