Report: Melo would waive no-trade for C's; Stevens would like him, Ainge doesn't

[Eddie20]

The guy (insert 29 other teams) need is

ANTHONY DAVIS IS THE GUY we should be looking at .....he is the perfect personality and fit for (insert Coach) and rest of (insert team).

Fixed

[Darío SpanishFan]

With 2018 summer (we'll have to pay at least two of Isaiah, Avery, Marcus) getting closer, contracts such as Crowder's should be almost untradeable.

Tremendous asset to fill up a contending team. I wouldn't deal him except if it is a deal-breaker for a franchise-altering player such as Anthony Davis. No way we should trade him in a Melo's transaction.

[MBunge]

In order to match salaries, Amir and Zeller would have to be part of the deal.  However, that leaves us with KO and Mickey as back up bigs, which is unacceptable for the win-now team we would become with Melo.  Ainge would want Hernangomez but might have to settle for Kyle O'Quin.

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

We'd also be giving away virtually all our cap space for the next few years and possibly facing some luxury tax issues when it comes to resigning IT, Bradley, Crowder and KO.

If we're getting Olympic Melo, it's pretty tempting because you could pencil us in for the conference finals and decent shot at upsetting both the Cavs and Warriors.

Mike

[KGs Knee]

I'm guessing Ainge is most put off by Melo's 15% trade kicker.

Boston would owe Melo a little over $62 mil in 2017-18 and 2018-19.

[bogg]

I'm guessing Ainge is most put off by Melo's 15% trade kicker.

Boston would owe Melo a little over $62 mil in 2017-18 and 2018-19.

Knicks pay the kicker.

[jpotter33]

In order to match salaries, Amir and Zeller would have to be part of the deal.  However, that leaves us with KO and Mickey as back up bigs, which is unacceptable for the win-now team we would become with Melo.  Ainge would want Hernangomez but might have to settle for Kyle O'Quin.

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

We'd also be giving away virtually all our cap space for the next few years and possibly facing some luxury tax issues when it comes to resigning IT, Bradley, Crowder and KO.

If we're getting Olympic Melo, it's pretty tempting because you could pencil us in for the conference finals and decent shot at upsetting both the Cavs and Warriors.

Mike

Yeah, I'm definitely down for something like this, especially since it seems that the whole "Boogie Watch" won't happen anymore with the Kings keeping their head just above water in the playoff race. I also don't think any of our other potential trade pursuits (Butler and George) will become available until this summer.

So, yeah, I'm definitely down to being a legit contender now, while also building to the future with Smart, Brown, and the two Brooklyn picks.

If Melo buys into the system and accepts the second option role for us while playing passable D, we'd be a really legit threat of knocking off the Cavs in the East.

[Ilikesports17]

In order to match salaries, Amir and Zeller would have to be part of the deal.  However, that leaves us with KO and Mickey as back up bigs, which is unacceptable for the win-now team we would become with Melo.  Ainge would want Hernangomez but might have to settle for Kyle O'Quin.

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

We'd also be giving away virtually all our cap space for the next few years and possibly facing some luxury tax issues when it comes to resigning IT, Bradley, Crowder and KO.

If we're getting Olympic Melo, it's pretty tempting because you could pencil us in for the conference finals and decent shot at upsetting both the Cavs and Warriors.

Mike

Yeah, I'm definitely down for something like this, especially since it seems that the whole "Boogie Watch" won't happen anymore with the Kings keeping their head just above water in the playoff race. I also don't think any of our other potential trade pursuits (Butler and George) will become available until this summer.

So, yeah, I'm definitely down to being a legit contender now, while also building to the future with Smart, Brown, and the two Brooklyn picks.

If Melo buys into the system and accepts the second option role for us while playing passable D, we'd be a really legit threat of knocking off the Cavs in the East.

So what it comes down to here, would be a) is Horford-KO-Quinn-Melo enough of a frontcourt and b) does that offer beat out LAC?

[SparzWizard]

Celtics have stayed put for the longest time. They haven't pulled a big trade in so long sans the Rondo to Dallas transaction even though Rondo was already on the decline with the C's.

Pull the trigger Danny. Have to win now. Put Melo at PF.

[jpotter33]

In order to match salaries, Amir and Zeller would have to be part of the deal.  However, that leaves us with KO and Mickey as back up bigs, which is unacceptable for the win-now team we would become with Melo.  Ainge would want Hernangomez but might have to settle for Kyle O'Quin.

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

We'd also be giving away virtually all our cap space for the next few years and possibly facing some luxury tax issues when it comes to resigning IT, Bradley, Crowder and KO.

If we're getting Olympic Melo, it's pretty tempting because you could pencil us in for the conference finals and decent shot at upsetting both the Cavs and Warriors.

Mike

Yeah, I'm definitely down for something like this, especially since it seems that the whole "Boogie Watch" won't happen anymore with the Kings keeping their head just above water in the playoff race. I also don't think any of our other potential trade pursuits (Butler and George) will become available until this summer.

So, yeah, I'm definitely down to being a legit contender now, while also building to the future with Smart, Brown, and the two Brooklyn picks.

If Melo buys into the system and accepts the second option role for us while playing passable D, we'd be a really legit threat of knocking off the Cavs in the East.

So what it comes down to here, would be a) is Horford-KO-Quinn-Melo enough of a frontcourt and b) does that offer beat out LAC?

A) I think it's good, as long as we don't deal with significant injuries. We also have Mickey (Yab and Zizic next year, too), and we also have Jae and Brown that are capable of sliding down in small-ball lineups. I'd hate giving up JJ, though, because he's that versatile big off the bench that is effective on both sides of the ball. But O'Quinn is a really good back-up big to get for us.

B) I think it beats out LAC's offer, unless the Knicks are irrationally high on Rivers and the Clips are willing to offer up a straight up unprotected pick in 2021, which is dangerous given how old their guys are. I still think that offer is much better than the Clips, because it gives them much more cap relief going forward, along with similar assets in Rozier and the two picks.

[csfansince60s]

In order to match salaries, Amir and Zeller would have to be part of the deal.  However, that leaves us with KO and Mickey as back up bigs, which is unacceptable for the win-now team we would become with Melo.  Ainge would want Hernangomez but might have to settle for Kyle O'Quin.

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

We'd also be giving away virtually all our cap space for the next few years and possibly facing some luxury tax issues when it comes to resigning IT, Bradley, Crowder and KO.

If we're getting Olympic Melo, it's pretty tempting because you could pencil us in for the conference finals and decent shot at upsetting both the Cavs and Warriors.

Mike

Yeah, I'm definitely down for something like this, especially since it seems that the whole "Boogie Watch" won't happen anymore with the Kings keeping their head just above water in the playoff race. I also don't think any of our other potential trade pursuits (Butler and George) will become available until this summer.

So, yeah, I'm definitely down to being a legit contender now, while also building to the future with Smart, Brown, and the two Brooklyn picks.

If Melo buys into the system and accepts the second option role for us while playing passable D, we'd be a really legit threat of knocking off the Cavs in the East.

So what it comes down to here, would be a) is Horford-KO-Quinn-Melo enough of a frontcourt and b) does that offer beat out LAC?

Answer to a) is yes. Add Crowder to the 4 when we are playing small ball, and that's not bad. Would still be good to get a Bogut. Danny wouldn't be done.

Answer to b) is absolutely. The Zen nut is rebuilding. We have draft picks up the ying-yang. What do Rivers, reddick, Crawford do for a rebuild....and they dont have any decent picks to offer till 2050. We can top anything that the Clips are willing to give up.

[Ilikesports17]

So the only realistic deal I can see is Melo, O'Quin and cash (to pay for Melo's trade kicker) for Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Young, Boston 2018 first, future Clippers first.

That gives us a lineup of...

IT
Bradley
Crowder
Melo
Horford

And essentially a bench of Smart, Brown, KO, Green and O'Quin.

So what it comes down to here, would be a) is Horford-KO-Quinn-Melo enough of a frontcourt and b) does that offer beat out LAC?

Answer to a) is yes. Add Crowder to the 4 when we are playing small ball, and that's not bad. Would still be good to get a Bogut. Danny wouldn't be done.

Answer to b) is absolutely. The Zen nut is rebuilding. We have draft picks up the ying-yang. What do Rivers, reddick, Crawford do for a rebuild....and they dont have any decent picks to offer till 2050. We can top anything that the Clips are willing to give up.

I had forgotten about Bogut. Problem is that Dallas would probably have to buy him out for us to get him. I cant think of any other bigs off the top of my head, but I think Ainge would have to sign a depth big out of FA. I think this lineup would be good come playoff time when rotations tighten. A decent amount riding on OQuinn and KOs health here.

I agree on B. If Phil moves Melo he is surely looking to rebuild.

A) I think it's good, as long as we don't deal with significant injuries. We also have Mickey (Yab and Zizic next year, too), and we also have Jae and Brown that are capable of sliding down in small-ball lineups. I'd hate giving up JJ, though, because he's that versatile big off the bench that is effective on both sides of the ball. But O'Quinn is a really good back-up big to get for us.

B) I think it beats out LAC's offer, unless the Knicks are irrationally high on Rivers and the Clips are willing to offer up a straight up unprotected pick in 2021, which is dangerous given how old their guys are. I still think that offer is much better than the Clips, because it gives them much more cap relief going forward, along with similar assets in Rozier and the two picks.

JJ is my biggest concern here as well. Hes very streaky, but hes been good at important times for us and the team has looked much better when hes started (going all the way back to the playoffs last year).

I think I pull the trigger on the deal. I think the Melo is a loser narrative is far overblown, but he absolutely would need to buy in or else we lose this trade in spectacular fashion.

Melo gives you another guy who can create his own offense, another guy who has the body type to bother Lebron James and a guy who can grant you extended credibility over the next 2 years.

The only other problem is that 3rd year. By the option year, Melo will likely be a mediocre player. At this point we will have to renogatiate deals with Smart Bradley and Thomas. Id hate to lose one of those guys because we owe 29 mil to the corpse of Carmelo Anthony.

[hpantazo]

Of course Stevens wants Melo, just like any coach, he wants to win now.

Ainge's job however is to see the long term picture and do what is best for the long-term success of the franchise, so unless the Knicks send him for cheap and take back some of our guaranteed salaries so that we still have some cap flexibility, then I don't see it happening.

[cltc5]

Why would Danny ainge make a move to help this organization win now?

[GratefulCs]

Celtics have stayed put for the longest time. They haven't pulled a big trade in so long sans the Rondo to Dallas transaction even though Rondo was already on the decline with the C's.

Pull the trigger Danny. Have to win now. Put Melo at PF.

no way

Adding melo wouldn't put us over the top (and he's getting older)

Imagine if we traded the Memphis pick (or something similar), then Memphis stinks in two years, and the knicks get a top ten pick

I wouldn't be able to sleep at night

I don't want any part of melo

[Ilikesports17]

Celtics have stayed put for the longest time. They haven't pulled a big trade in so long sans the Rondo to Dallas transaction even though Rondo was already on the decline with the C's.

Pull the trigger Danny. Have to win now. Put Melo at PF.

no way

Adding melo wouldn't put us over the top (and he's getting older)

Imagine if we traded the Memphis pick (or something similar), then Memphis stinks in two years, and the knicks get a top ten pick

I wouldn't be able to sleep at night

I don't want any part of melo

Memphis pick is top 8 protected so its unlikley to yield too too important of an asset.

Im not giving them a single real asset, but Id eat his salary.