How many wins for this 12 man roster next year

[PaulAllen]

81-1 ... they lose to the Nets

[Bobshot]

The index for real improvement is 60 wins. That's the contention level.

I don't see 60 wins for this team unless they make a major FA signing. I think a Noel might move them into the mid-50s if they don't have to give up any starters for him.

Right now, they are still a 50 win team--because they've lost the depth they had in previous years. They lose a lot when one of their starters goes down.

[slamtheking]

Hypothetical team. How many regular season wins and how deep in the playoffs.

 Horford-Zizic
 Milsap-Yabu-Mickey
 Crowder-Brown
 Fultz-Bradley
 Thomas-Smart-Rozier

 That's a home run off season if we can't get Cousin's, Butler, or George.

 56 Wins next year. Lose in 7 games to the Cavs. ECF.

Well, supposing we did sign Millsap (which will be pricey) and were able to draft Fultz, here's what I see:
- AB would still be our starting SG.  Fultz would be a back up off the bench as a rookie
- At least one of KO, Amir, JJ or Zeller will still be here.  probably 2 of them.  we won't go far if our big man rotation includes 2 rookies and a guy who won't play 30 games this year.  I'm thinking KO is retained, possibly JJ too who's still useful and can swing to SF.

Horford-KO-Zizic
Milsap-Jerebko-Yabu-Mickey
Crowder-Brown
Bradley-Fultz
Thomas-Smart-Rosier

That's a pretty solid roster though I think we'd still need to upgrade from Mickey with a vet FA and add a shooter off the bench.  I could see Green brought back in that role unless Nader or one of our second rounders from this draft can fill that role.

not sure it's good enough to challenge Cleveland but I think it's definitely balanced enough to battle toronto to get to the ECF.  We'd at least have the defensive bodies to throw at Bron, Irving and Love

Unforunately, slam your premise is off. In order to sign Milsap to probably a max, which I think is what it would take, Zeller, KO, Amir, Jerebko, Green, Young and maybe Mickey would need to be allowed to walk to make the cap room for Milsap

IT/Smart/Rozier
Bradley/Fultz(I agree, Bradley starts)
Crowder/Brown
Milsap/Yabu
Horford/Zizac

Its a fantastic starting 5 and maybe the worst bench in the league. All 6 bench players are still on their rookie contracts, 3 are rookies, 1 a second year player and Rozier and Smart are two if the worst shooters in the league. There are no vets whatsoever that have proven skills except for Smart and his defense.

This is a decent step backwards. They win maybe 44 games. Good chance even less.

Now if they go out and sign a couple of productive, veteran front court players at the league minimum so they can bring Zizac and Yabu on slowly, they probably are over 50 wins but as constituted that team is worse than this years because of that bench.

Thanks Nick.  didn't think we'd have to renounce all of them.  thought we could still keep the rights to a couple with the inflated cap.