How many wins for this 12 man roster next year

[KG Living Legend]

 Hypothetical team. How many regular season wins and how deep in the playoffs.

 

 Horford-Zizic
 Milsap-Yabu-Mickey
 Crowder-Brown
 Fultz-Bradley
 Thomas-Smart-Rozier

 That's a home run off season if we can't get Cousin's, Butler, or George.

 56 Wins next year. Lose in 7 games to the Cavs. ECF.

 


 
 

[Somebody]

What's the fascination with ball over fultz? Ball is definitely not going to get his shot off in isos

[KG Living Legend]

What's the fascination with ball over fultz? Ball is definitely not going to get his shot off in isos

 Just preparing for not getting #1 overall.

 I proposed we got the #2 pick which would still be great.

[Somebody]

What's the fascination with ball over fultz? Ball is definitely not going to get his shot off in isos

 Just preparing for not getting #1 overall.

 I proposed we got the #2 pick which would still be great.

Well yeah...the nba loves screwing us in the lottery...they pulled out somehing that never happened in the lottery to ensure we don't get simmons or ingram (though JB seems really good now). I hope the nba can just give us the benefit of the doubt and give us the 1st pick this year and a top 2 pick next year

[greece66]

zero


bcs they will be playing in diff teams


(sorry but i couldnt resist. i ll try to come back with a more serious reply later)

[adam8]

What's the fascination with ball over fultz? Ball is definitely not going to get his shot off in isos

 Just preparing for not getting #1 overall.

 I proposed we got the #2 pick which would still be great.

Well yeah...the nba loves screwing us in the lottery...they pulled out somehing that never happened in the lottery to ensure we don't get simmons or ingram (though JB seems really good now). I hope the nba can just give us the benefit of the doubt and give us the 1st pick this year and a top 2 pick next year

So the NBA screwed us by giving the team with the third best odds the third best pick? It has never happened that way before but that is so far from proof of tampering, it's funny some of the teams that keep getting number one picks and people still say conspiracy http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/lottery_winners there's the list if I were the NBA and I was hand picking the lottery my list would look much different.

[greece66]

Back home, so I gave this some more thought.

Yes, it is a team that could make the ECF.

But I would not like to offer an ageing Millsap the max. If this is the best move we have (I doubt it), I'd rather have us do what George says.

[slamtheking]

Hypothetical team. How many regular season wins and how deep in the playoffs.

 Horford-Zizic
 Milsap-Yabu-Mickey
 Crowder-Brown
 Fultz-Bradley
 Thomas-Smart-Rozier

 That's a home run off season if we can't get Cousin's, Butler, or George.

 56 Wins next year. Lose in 7 games to the Cavs. ECF.

Well, supposing we did sign Millsap (which will be pricey) and were able to draft Fultz, here's what I see:
- AB would still be our starting SG.  Fultz would be a back up off the bench as a rookie
- At least one of KO, Amir, JJ or Zeller will still be here.  probably 2 of them.  we won't go far if our big man rotation includes 2 rookies and a guy who won't play 30 games this year.  I'm thinking KO is retained, possibly JJ too who's still useful and can swing to SF.

Horford-KO-Zizic
Milsap-Jerebko-Yabu-Mickey
Crowder-Brown
Bradley-Fultz
Thomas-Smart-Rosier

That's a pretty solid roster though I think we'd still need to upgrade from Mickey with a vet FA and add a shooter off the bench.  I could see Green brought back in that role unless Nader or one of our second rounders from this draft can fill that role.

not sure it's good enough to challenge Cleveland but I think it's definitely balanced enough to battle toronto to get to the ECF.  We'd at least have the defensive bodies to throw at Bron, Irving and Love

[Who]

60+ wins

[nickagneta]

Hypothetical team. How many regular season wins and how deep in the playoffs.

 Horford-Zizic
 Milsap-Yabu-Mickey
 Crowder-Brown
 Fultz-Bradley
 Thomas-Smart-Rozier

 That's a home run off season if we can't get Cousin's, Butler, or George.

 56 Wins next year. Lose in 7 games to the Cavs. ECF.

Well, supposing we did sign Millsap (which will be pricey) and were able to draft Fultz, here's what I see:
- AB would still be our starting SG.  Fultz would be a back up off the bench as a rookie
- At least one of KO, Amir, JJ or Zeller will still be here.  probably 2 of them.  we won't go far if our big man rotation includes 2 rookies and a guy who won't play 30 games this year.  I'm thinking KO is retained, possibly JJ too who's still useful and can swing to SF.

Horford-KO-Zizic
Milsap-Jerebko-Yabu-Mickey
Crowder-Brown
Bradley-Fultz
Thomas-Smart-Rosier

That's a pretty solid roster though I think we'd still need to upgrade from Mickey with a vet FA and add a shooter off the bench.  I could see Green brought back in that role unless Nader or one of our second rounders from this draft can fill that role.

not sure it's good enough to challenge Cleveland but I think it's definitely balanced enough to battle toronto to get to the ECF.  We'd at least have the defensive bodies to throw at Bron, Irving and Love

Unforunately, slam your premise is off. In order to sign Milsap to probably a max, which I think is what it would take, Zeller, KO, Amir, Jerebko, Green, Young and maybe Mickey would need to be allowed to walk to make the cap room for Milsap

IT/Smart/Rozier
Bradley/Fultz(I agree, Bradley starts)
Crowder/Brown
Milsap/Yabu
Horford/Zizac

Its a fantastic starting 5 and maybe the worst bench in the league. All 6 bench players are still on their rookie contracts, 3 are rookies, 1 a second year player and Rozier and Smart are two if the worst shooters in the league. There are no vets whatsoever that have proven skills except for Smart and his defense.

This is a decent step backwards. They win maybe 44 games. Good chance even less.

Now if they go out and sign a couple of productive, veteran front court players at the league minimum so they can bring Zizac and Yabu on slowly, they probably are over 50 wins but as constituted that team is worse than this years because of that bench.

[td450]

If we are going to slot in a free agent, I think going after Ibaka makes much more sense for us than Milsap.

[BitterJim]

Hypothetical team. How many regular season wins and how deep in the playoffs.

 Horford-Zizic
 Milsap-Yabu-Mickey
 Crowder-Brown
 Fultz-Bradley
 Thomas-Smart-Rozier

 That's a home run off season if we can't get Cousin's, Butler, or George.

 56 Wins next year. Lose in 7 games to the Cavs. ECF.

Well, supposing we did sign Millsap (which will be pricey) and were able to draft Fultz, here's what I see:
- AB would still be our starting SG.  Fultz would be a back up off the bench as a rookie
- At least one of KO, Amir, JJ or Zeller will still be here.  probably 2 of them.  we won't go far if our big man rotation includes 2 rookies and a guy who won't play 30 games this year.  I'm thinking KO is retained, possibly JJ too who's still useful and can swing to SF.

Horford-KO-Zizic
Milsap-Jerebko-Yabu-Mickey
Crowder-Brown
Bradley-Fultz
Thomas-Smart-Rosier

That's a pretty solid roster though I think we'd still need to upgrade from Mickey with a vet FA and add a shooter off the bench.  I could see Green brought back in that role unless Nader or one of our second rounders from this draft can fill that role.

not sure it's good enough to challenge Cleveland but I think it's definitely balanced enough to battle toronto to get to the ECF.  We'd at least have the defensive bodies to throw at Bron, Irving and Love

Unforunately, slam your premise is off. In order to sign Milsap to probably a max, which I think is what it would take, Zeller, KO, Amir, Jerebko, Green, Young and maybe Mickey would need to be allowed to walk to make the cap space. Not sure about Mickey but lets say the Cs are able to retain him, KGLL's 12 man roster is still off and is an 11 man roster.

IT/Smart/Rozier
Bradley/Fultz(I agree, Bradley starts)
Crowder/Brown
Milsap/Yabu
Horford/Mickey/Zizac

Its a fantastic starting 5 and maybe the worst bench in the league. All 7 bench players are still on their rookie contracts, 3 are rookies, 1 a second year player and Rozier and Smart are two if the worst shooters in the league. Mickey is a 14th player on a roster. There are no vets whatsoever that have proven skills except for Smart and his defense.

This is a decent step backwards. They win maybe 44 games. Good chance even less.

Now if they go out and sign a couple of productive, veteran front court players at the league minimum so they can bring Zizac and Yabu on slowly, they probably are over 50 wins but as constituted that team is worse than this years because of that bench.

The bench would definitely be weak, but saying that it would make us a 44 win team is a huge overreaction.  Between Millsap and Horford, you could keep one vet big on the floor at all times (while still playing them together for ~20 mpg based on Horford's 33 mpg and Millsap's 34 mpg this year).

The biggest issue with that bench would be playing small more often than not, with Smart/Fultz playing a lot of 2/3 (I'm honestly not sure who would cover SFs in that case - Smart has the strength, but Fultz is sooooooo long) and Brown/Crowder playing the small ball 4 a lot.  It wouldn't be ideal, and would definitely be one of the weaker benches in the league, but that team would still win 50-55 games based on the starting lineup alone.  Maybe more if a young guy or two breaks out.

The biggest issue is that, in order to sign Millsap, we'd probably need to offer him the max, which (barring a trade) would be impossible if we got the #1 pick.

[BE-Celtic]

If we are going to slot in a free agent, I think going after Ibaka makes much more sense for us than Milsap.

I have trouble making my mind considering how bad the Magic is, but I doubt Ibaka's value right now

[Moranis]

50ish wins.  Top 4 seed, make it to and lose to the Cavs in 5 or 6 games (either in ECS or ECF).

[hwangjini_1]

What's the fascination with ball over fultz? Ball is definitely not going to get his shot off in isos

 Just preparing for not getting #1 overall.

 I proposed we got the #2 pick which would still be great.

Well yeah...the nba loves screwing us in the lottery...they pulled out somehing that never happened in the lottery to ensure we don't get simmons or ingram (though JB seems really good now). I hope the nba can just give us the benefit of the doubt and give us the 1st pick this year and a top 2 pick next year

if you knew how the mechanics of the lottery works, you would not post this statement.

please look at these to learn more:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/19/8625903/nba-draft-lottery-2015-rules-how-works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvkbQYrdQhU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

it is not rigged.