Larry Sanders Workout?!? Today

[moiso]

He is still going to be athletic with long arms.  He didn't really have any skills to lose.  The offensive skills are the ones that get rusty.  Sanders just has to get in game shape and adjust to the speed of the NBA.  It shouldn't take him too long.

[cltc5]

Perfect fit in Boston and could be the glue that keeps this team together. Shove a boot as far up james youngs ass as possible to make room.

[fantankerous]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

Counterexamples don't really prove a point, especially with the small sample size.

Sanders took off for emotional reasons. He is in his prime and fine physically. He was a very good big when he walked away. If Ainge and Stevens like what they saw, I'm on board.

Thanks g-w.  Perhaps you are right.  My point would be that you can't take multiple years off without there being a significant deterioration of your skills/knowledge.  All of Sanders's peers have been training physically and mentally to play NBA basketball over the past two years, whereas he has not.

From personal experience, I've been trained in statistics and coding to do big data analytics.  However, I haven't used this training in several years.  Despite having as good or better training than many professionals in this field, I can't do what they are doing because I've been away too long.  Even with maintaining an amateurish interest in the field, I know that any serious field study would be sloppy, at best.

I think Sanders had to be considered as a project at this point..  He can't seriously contribute this season.  Is he worth a long-term investment considering the risk and the rosters' window?

And again, I am pro-green.

[cltc5]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

Counterexamples don't really prove a point, especially with the small sample size.

Sanders took off for emotional reasons. He is in his prime and fine physically. He was a very good big when he walked away. If Ainge and Stevens like what they saw, I'm on board.

Thanks g-w.  Perhaps you are right.  My point would be that you can't take multiple years off without there being a significant deterioration of your skills/knowledge.  All of Sanders's peers have been training physically and mentally to play NBA basketball over the past two years, whereas he has not.

From personal experience, I've been trained in statistics and coding to do big data analytics.  However, I haven't used this training in several years.  Despite having as good or better training than many professionals in this field, I can't do what they are doing because I've been away too long.  Even with maintaining an amateurish interest in the field, I know that any serious field study would be sloppy, at best.

I think Sanders had to be considered as a project at this point..  He can't seriously contribute this season.  Is he worth a long-term investment considering the risk and the rosters' window?

And again, I am pro-green.

Lol you don't have a clue.  You think the guy was just sitting around and knitting all this time

[saltlover]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

maybe there aren't many examples because there aren't many people who are good players that quit while they are good and then try to return later. maybe you should name players who quit while they are good (young) and then try to return and fail.

Ray Allen, Baron Davis, & Derick Fisher off the top of my head.   Probably more, seem to remember a lot of guys trying to 'come back' when the salary cap went up this past offseason.

Ray Allen left in his late 30s and is 41.  Fisher is 42.  Davis is younger at 37, but also left a little less voluntarily.  Larry Sanders is 28, and quit when he was 26.  It doesn't resemble the same thing.

[hwangjini_1]

So what? I mean it. So what if sanders turns out to be a total dud, a loser, a failure, a waste.

What would the Celtics have lost that in any way harms this team meaningfully?

The team loses the services of James young. OMG! There go the playoffs!! 

Or maybe Mickey is gone?  My god! How will the Celtics fill those 3 minutes at the end of blowouts??

The cost of sanders is next to zip. I hope ainge rolls the dice. No real downside and perhaps good upside.

Why folks are so worried here is beyond me.

[D Dub]

So what? I mean it. So what if sanders turns out to be a total dud, a loser, a failure, a waste.

What would the Celtics have lost that in any way harms this team meaningfully?

The team loses the services of James young. OMG! There go the playoffs!! 

Or maybe Mickey is gone?  My god! How will the Celtics fill those 3 minutes at the end of blowouts??

The cost of sanders is next to zip. I hope ainge rolls the dice. No real downside and perhaps good upside.

Why folks are so worried here is beyond me.

Tp

[fantankerous]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

maybe there aren't many examples because there aren't many people who are good players that quit while they are good and then try to return later. maybe you should name players who quit while they are good (young) and then try to return and fail.

Ray Allen, Baron Davis, & Derick Fisher off the top of my head.   Probably more, seem to remember a lot of guys trying to 'come back' when the salary cap went up this past offseason.

Ray Allen left in his late 30s and is 41.  Fisher is 42.  Davis is younger at 37, but also left a little less voluntarily.  Larry Sanders is 28, and quit when he was 26.  It doesn't resemble the same thing.

All valid points.  Do you think Sanders could step in and contribute though?  How much of a project is Sanders at this point?  Is he less of a project than James Young right now?  I'm skeptical but persuadable. 

[Eddie20]

So what? I mean it. So what if sanders turns out to be a total dud, a loser, a failure, a waste.

What would the Celtics have lost that in any way harms this team meaningfully?

The team loses the services of James young. OMG! There go the playoffs!! 

Or maybe Mickey is gone?  My god! How will the Celtics fill those 3 minutes at the end of blowouts??

The cost of sanders is next to zip. I hope ainge rolls the dice. No real downside and perhaps good upside.

Why folks are so worried here is beyond me.

Exactly. This is the epitome of a low risk/high reward. People act like Sanders is going to be a grade school teacher. He's going to be playing basketball. If he sucks, we cut him.

Also, McGee is a good example of a guy that was not playing basketball for 2 years and is doing pretty decent nowadays. Not to mention Sanders was always better than McGee.

[fantankerous]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

Counterexamples don't really prove a point, especially with the small sample size.

Sanders took off for emotional reasons. He is in his prime and fine physically. He was a very good big when he walked away. If Ainge and Stevens like what they saw, I'm on board.

Thanks g-w.  Perhaps you are right.  My point would be that you can't take multiple years off without there being a significant deterioration of your skills/knowledge.  All of Sanders's peers have been training physically and mentally to play NBA basketball over the past two years, whereas he has not.

From personal experience, I've been trained in statistics and coding to do big data analytics.  However, I haven't used this training in several years.  Despite having as good or better training than many professionals in this field, I can't do what they are doing because I've been away too long.  Even with maintaining an amateurish interest in the field, I know that any serious field study would be sloppy, at best.

I think Sanders had to be considered as a project at this point..  He can't seriously contribute this season.  Is he worth a long-term investment considering the risk and the rosters' window?

And again, I am pro-green.

Lol you don't have a clue.  You think the guy was just sitting around and knitting all this time

I don't have a clue and neither does anyone else.  That's my point.  Sanders wasn't playing professionally for multiple years.  Training can't make up for that.  I'm simply looking for empirical evidence to support the seemingly unquestioned assumption that Sanders can step back into th sport.  I'd be more than happy if he could.  However, I'm skeptical.  And I think posters underestimate what it takes to be a professional athlete.

[ThePaintedArea]

"[Danny Ainge] walks down the street
He says why am I soft in the middle now
Why am I soft in the middle
The rest of my life is so hard"

Larry Sanders could go a long way toward finding the cure to what ails this team's rim protection issues when we match up against the elite. Hop aboard big fella!

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/11/4745504/larry-sanders-milwaukee-bucks-video-analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsJpBRAKxI

"I need a shot at redemption."

TP

[mr. dee]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

Counterexamples don't really prove a point, especially with the small sample size.

Sanders took off for emotional reasons. He is in his prime and fine physically. He was a very good big when he walked away. If Ainge and Stevens like what they saw, I'm on board.

Thanks g-w.  Perhaps you are right.  My point would be that you can't take multiple years off without there being a significant deterioration of your skills/knowledge.  All of Sanders's peers have been training physically and mentally to play NBA basketball over the past two years, whereas he has not.

From personal experience, I've been trained in statistics and coding to do big data analytics.  However, I haven't used this training in several years.  Despite having as good or better training than many professionals in this field, I can't do what they are doing because I've been away too long.  Even with maintaining an amateurish interest in the field, I know that any serious field study would be sloppy, at best.

I think Sanders had to be considered as a project at this point..  He can't seriously contribute this season.  Is he worth a long-term investment considering the risk and the rosters' window?

And again, I am pro-green.

Lol you don't have a clue.  You think the guy was just sitting around and knitting all this time

I don't have a clue and neither does anyone else.  That's my point.  Sanders wasn't playing professionally for multiple years.  Training can't make up for that.  I'm simply looking for empirical evidence to support the seemingly unquestioned assumption that Sanders can step back into th sport.  I'd be more than happy if he could.  However, I'm skeptical.  And I think posters underestimate what it takes to be a professional athlete.

Athletes from other sports proved that you can beat inactivity by staying in shape.

There is Sugar Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather and recently, Andre Ward.

[fantankerous]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

Counterexamples don't really prove a point, especially with the small sample size.

Sanders took off for emotional reasons. He is in his prime and fine physically. He was a very good big when he walked away. If Ainge and Stevens like what they saw, I'm on board.

Thanks g-w.  Perhaps you are right.  My point would be that you can't take multiple years off without there being a significant deterioration of your skills/knowledge.  All of Sanders's peers have been training physically and mentally to play NBA basketball over the past two years, whereas he has not.

From personal experience, I've been trained in statistics and coding to do big data analytics.  However, I haven't used this training in several years.  Despite having as good or better training than many professionals in this field, I can't do what they are doing because I've been away too long.  Even with maintaining an amateurish interest in the field, I know that any serious field study would be sloppy, at best.

I think Sanders had to be considered as a project at this point..  He can't seriously contribute this season.  Is he worth a long-term investment considering the risk and the rosters' window?

And again, I am pro-green.

Lol you don't have a clue.  You think the guy was just sitting around and knitting all this time

I don't have a clue and neither does anyone else.  That's my point.  Sanders wasn't playing professionally for multiple years.  Training can't make up for that.  I'm simply looking for empirical evidence to support the seemingly unquestioned assumption that Sanders can step back into th sport.  I'd be more than happy if he could.  However, I'm skeptical.  And I think posters underestimate what it takes to be a professional athlete.

Athletes from other sports proved that you can beat inactivity by staying in shape.

There is Sugar Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather and recently, Andre Ward.

TP.  These are good examples.  Outside of such barbarism, are there basketball-specific examples? 

[RockinRyA]

 

You obviously missed the entire point of that article if that's what you got out of it.

I wasn't discussing the article. I was just mentioning it so people might want to check it out. That was my opinion Cousins would be a disruption. But nice try at a gotcha or whatever you thought you were doing copying, pasting, then attacking.

Oh, no. Celtics Blog might have to unpin the Boogie Cousins watch thread.

 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

No thanks. No telling where this dudes head is at.

meh

He wanted to take a break and smoke weed


Heck, birdman came back and he was into meth (and some weird underage stuff too)

Regarding the Birdman, that's just not true.

Regarding Sanders, no thank you.  We have enough projects, we don't need another.  There's not a good track record for players taking multiple years off and successfully returning to the NBA. 

Before being accused of being puritanical, the NBA's (and US government and majority of states') position on weed is ****ing ridiculous .

Gerald Green?
Hassan Whiteside?
Bruce Bowen?
Michael Jordan?

None of these players took multiple years off from professional basketball.  I liked sanders as a player and I respect his position on marijuana, but he can't help our team.  Im still waiting for an example of a player that took multiple years off and had a successful return to the NBA.  Drew Gooden?

Jordan took almost two years off (the first time), but he was Jordan, so it's not remotely the same.

Thanks saltover.  I thought it was less than two years.  If Jordan is the only counter-example, it only proves my point.  Unless you are the GOAT, you can't just pick back up where you left off.

maybe there aren't many examples because there aren't many people who are good players that quit while they are good and then try to return later. maybe you should name players who quit while they are good (young) and then try to return and fail.

Ray Allen, Baron Davis, & Derick Fisher off the top of my head.   Probably more, seem to remember a lot of guys trying to 'come back' when the salary cap went up this past offseason.

lol they aren't young and weren't that good when they quit.