DA not trading the pick

[PaulAllen]

Its the feeling I am getting from the trade market this year ..

Also with the team playing as well as it is maybe some smaller moves would benefit this team for the run...

When you look at it IT is scoring on Larry Bird in his prime pace .. Now Im not making a direct comparison but overall his scoring numbers are similar to the golden age of Bird ... I know I know the league is a higher scoring then in the 80's but he is still clutch... Add in Bradley and Horford and the scoring itself is taken care of ...

So as we hear names like Milsap and Lopez are available, their price is steep ... Teams want lottery picks in this years draft and picks in the future ... not worth it ... so whats the price of Cousins or Davis ... who knows now??

Instead find a rebounder and solidify the bench ... Find a better price for Noel , Bogut, Nurkic, Vucevic or Taj Gibson ... Or great role players Brandon Knight , Sefolosha or PJ Tucker...

So building a more sound team while still building for the future ... Keep in mind Thomas and Bradley both have expiring contracts next year and this draft class is supposedly the best since 03.... Having a player like a Fultz, Ball, Jackson or possibly Giles could really solidify the future ..

Now if Ainge could pull some dream trade off for Davis do it but the market doesnt seem right... maybe it will in the offseason ... just my 2 cents ...

[hodgy03038]

Its the feeling I am getting from the trade market this year ..

Also with the team playing as well as it is maybe some smaller moves would benefit this team for the run...

When you look at it IT is scoring on Larry Bird in his prime pace .. Now Im not making a direct comparison but overall his scoring numbers are similar to the golden age of Bird ... I know I know the league is a higher scoring then in the 80's but he is still clutch... Add in Bradley and Horford and the scoring itself is taken care of ...

So as we hear names like Milsap and Lopez are available, their price is steep ... Teams want lottery picks in this years draft and picks in the future ... not worth it ... so whats the price of Cousins or Davis ... who knows now??

Instead find a rebounder and solidify the bench ... Find a better price for Noel , Bogut, Nurkic, Vucevic or Taj Gibson ... Or great role players Brandon Knight , Sefolosha or PJ Tucker...

So building a more sound team while still building for the future ... Keep in mind Thomas and Bradley both have expiring contracts next year and this draft class is supposedly the best since 03.... Having a player like a Fultz, Ball, Jackson or possibly Giles could really solidify the future ..

Now if Ainge could pull some dream trade off for Davis do it but the market doesnt seem right... maybe it will in the offseason ... just my 2 cents ...

I agree with you as far as not trading this year's pick or falling for the steep price of a Milsap or Lopez. I do think we should go for minor pieces such as the bigs you mentioned. I don't know how any of the guards you mentioned can help us though. I think we will pick up Bogut (just a hunch).

I wish we could have picked up Korver for the chump change that Cleveland paid for him which is essentially a 2nd round pick. Also, since LeBron is demanding a backup point guard to Kyrie I can envision them getting Rondo from the Bulls for a rack of balls.

[PaulAllen]

I wish we could have picked up Korver for the chump change that Cleveland paid for him which is essentially a 2nd round pick. Also, since LeBron is demanding a backup point guard to Kyrie I can envision them getting Rondo from the Bulls for a rack of balls.


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Yea felt the same 

[Phantom255x]

I wish we could have picked up Korver for the chump change that Cleveland paid for him which is essentially a 2nd round pick. Also, since LeBron is demanding a backup point guard to Kyrie I can envision them getting Rondo from the Bulls for a rack of balls.




Yea felt the same 

To be honest I doubt Rondo will be with the Cavaliers. I'm sure the Cavaliers see what's going on with him and are a bit fearful of how he may hurt the team chemistry.

That being said, yeah I wish Ainge got Korver for cheap.. and idk why he didn't (he would have been a big help).

Now I hope Danny goes for a Bogut-like player as soon as he is available because he could be cheap, and it would suck if another team got him.. (We NEED his rebounding ability)

[chilidawg]

I wish we could have picked up Korver for the chump change that Cleveland paid for him which is essentially a 2nd round pick. Also, since LeBron is demanding a backup point guard to Kyrie I can envision them getting Rondo from the Bulls for a rack of balls.

Yea felt the same 
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If you traded for Korver whose minutes do you take to play him.  Not Crowder, smart, bradley for me.  Probably not even Brown or Green.

[BitterJim]

Its the feeling I am getting from the trade market this year ..

Also with the team playing as well as it is maybe some smaller moves would benefit this team for the run...

When you look at it IT is scoring on Larry Bird in his prime pace .. Now Im not making a direct comparison but overall his scoring numbers are similar to the golden age of Bird ... I know I know the league is a higher scoring then in the 80's but he is still clutch... Add in Bradley and Horford and the scoring itself is taken care of ...

So as we hear names like Milsap and Lopez are available, their price is steep ... Teams want lottery picks in this years draft and picks in the future ... not worth it ... so whats the price of Cousins or Davis ... who knows now??

Instead find a rebounder and solidify the bench ... Find a better price for Noel , Bogut, Nurkic, Vucevic or Taj Gibson ... Or great role players Brandon Knight , Sefolosha or PJ Tucker...

So building a more sound team while still building for the future ... Keep in mind Thomas and Bradley both have expiring contracts next year and this draft class is supposedly the best since 03.... Having a player like a Fultz, Ball, Jackson or possibly Giles could really solidify the future ..

Now if Ainge could pull some dream trade off for Davis do it but the market doesnt seem right... maybe it will in the offseason ... just my 2 cents ...

I agree with you as far as not trading this year's pick or falling for the steep price of a Milsap or Lopez. I do think we should go for minor pieces such as the bigs you mentioned. I don't know how any of the guards you mentioned can help us though. I think we will pick up Bogut (just a hunch).

I wish we could have picked up Korver for the chump change that Cleveland paid for him which is essentially a 2nd round pick. Also, since LeBron is demanding a backup point guard to Kyrie I can envision them getting Rondo from the Bulls for a rack of balls.

I would have liked to have added Korver, but not unless a move for a big was made first.  Unfortunately, Korver was the first to be moved, so that wasn't an option.  There's no point in trading assets for a 36 year old role player unless you already have a great shot at making the ECF

[PhoSita]

Given where things are headed money-wise for the team, it's going to have be a really great deal for DA to want to move that pick.

I suspect that trade talks for Jimmy Butler will heat up around the draft again this year, especially if the Celts have a top 3 pick again and the Bulls like one of the point guards in that range.

Unless it's an All-NBA type talent locked up for multiple years, I'd say keep the pick and let's try to develop the next wave of Celtics stars.  That's probably more sustainable than trying to go for everything in the next year or so and trying to pay to keep a team of 4 or 5 excellent but not historically great players together long term.

[boscel33]

I think he lands Hayward at the deadline.  Utah will fear losing him for nothing, and take pennies on the dollar just to get something in return.  I'm also not giving up hope on one of the Philly bigs.  I like Okafor and obviously he is not in the plans for Philly.  I'm beginning to think he can be had for a song and a dance soon as well.

[apc]

I will trade our pick for Cousins only (from those who could potentially be available). not Hayward, not Butler.

[chilidawg]

I will trade our pick for Cousins only (from those who could potentially be available). not Hayward, not Butler.

Cousins or Butler, but not Hayward.  Also Durant or Lebron

[Smitty77]

Its the feeling I am getting from the trade market this year ..

Also with the team playing as well as it is maybe some smaller moves would benefit this team for the run...

When you look at it IT is scoring on Larry Bird in his prime pace .. Now Im not making a direct comparison but overall his scoring numbers are similar to the golden age of Bird ... I know I know the league is a higher scoring then in the 80's but he is still clutch... Add in Bradley and Horford and the scoring itself is taken care of ...

So as we hear names like Milsap and Lopez are available, their price is steep ... Teams want lottery picks in this years draft and picks in the future ... not worth it ... so whats the price of Cousins or Davis ... who knows now??

Instead find a rebounder and solidify the bench ... Find a better price for Noel , Bogut, Nurkic, Vucevic or Taj Gibson ... Or great role players Brandon Knight , Sefolosha or PJ Tucker...

So building a more sound team while still building for the future ... Keep in mind Thomas and Bradley both have expiring contracts next year and this draft class is supposedly the best since 03.... Having a player like a Fultz, Ball, Jackson or possibly Giles could really solidify the future ..

Now if Ainge could pull some dream trade off for Davis do it but the market doesnt seem right... maybe it will in the offseason ... just my 2 cents ...

PA,

I agree with you for the most part!!  However, Gibson is not a rebounder, but is a solid bench player.  I would see him as a more expensive Brandon Bass, who I would LOVE to get back!!!!  He is only playing 11.6 minutes per game with the Clippers and is only making 1.55 million.  A young for Bass trade works!!  Mickey for Bass works as well!!!

Also, I have a question.  What exactly (role-wise) is PJ Tucker so good at???  I haven't seen him play much at all.  His percentages are atrocious.  Is he an elite defender or rebounder or what am I missing.  Granted, a LOT, as I am only looking at stats!!!!:-)))

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

How about Anthony Bennett, as he was just waived by the mighty Nets!!!  I would cut Young IF we cannot trade him for something to make room for our NEW AB:-))

If we cannot trade for Bass, Bennett COULD play such a role, granted not offensively and not as the vet presence that Bass would bring!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

[Irish Stew]

Just remember, all those people who are planning to compete for the title in a few years and are already salivating over the 2018 draft class, the annual price tag for both Bradley and Thomas will likely move from $15 million in 2017-2018 to between $50-60 million in future years. IMO this team is one star (George? Butler?) and one solid interior defender and rebounder (Noel?) away from being a final four team. No more teenagers please.

[PaulAllen]

I think he lands Hayward at the deadline.  Utah will fear losing him for nothing, and take pennies on the dollar just to get something in return.  I'm also not giving up hope on one of the Philly bigs.  I like Okafor and obviously he is not in the plans for Philly.  I'm beginning to think he can be had for a song and a dance soon as well.

Hayward is a UFA next season so no way DA gives the pick up for someone he probably has the best chance to sign..

[boscel33]

I think he lands Hayward at the deadline.  Utah will fear losing him for nothing, and take pennies on the dollar just to get something in return.  I'm also not giving up hope on one of the Philly bigs.  I like Okafor and obviously he is not in the plans for Philly.  I'm beginning to think he can be had for a song and a dance soon as well.

Hayward is a UFA next season so no way DA gives the pick up for someone he probably has the best chance to sign..

he won't give up the pick, but he might give up a pick.  heck, i wouldn't give up the pick for hayward either.