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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1755 on: January 14, 2019, 04:56:51 PM »

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20 points, 22 rebounds, 9 assists from Simmons today against the Knicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZX9W7wzQEc

He even hit a fadeaway from midrange (1:31 of the video).

I know most of you guys believe he's overrated, but meh, I don't care. :P Simmons, Giannis, Jokic and Luka are my favorite non-Celtics to watch right now.

Btw, there's speculation (although not from credible sources) that the Sixers might make Simmons available in a package for AD. If I were the Pels, I'd take Simmons + 2021 Miami unprotected first + more pick(s) over Tatum + pick(s) or whatever the Lakers may offer.

But then again, I'm really high on Simmons. At the end of the day, Simmons is a polarizing player. Either you love him or you consider him overrated. Perhaps the Pels GM considers him overrated.

Looks like some guys on Liberty Ballers are right. Simmons sucks against good teams and has great stats against bad teams that's why to some he is great.

Yea he really posts fat stat lines against lousy teams. Wake me up when he has a good game against bucks, Celtics, raptors, warrrior etc and the 76ers winZ I will legit be impressed at that point
You mean like the 26/12/8 on 11 of 13 shooting he had against Toronto in his most recent game against the Raptors.

You realize Leonard didn't play that game right? Toronto without Leonard is guess what? A bad team.
They are 8-2 without Leonard this year and just beat Indiana by 16 without him.  The 2 games before Philly in which Leonard didn't play were back to back road victories by 20 or more points against the Clippers and then Warriors.  Early in the year, they also won back to back road games against the Lakers and Jazz by 14 and 13 respectively, again without Leonard. 

Perhaps you might want to reevaluate your position on the Raptors without Leonard.

If you really think a team a raptors team missing leonard (and jonas) is a good team, i don't really know what to tell you. They have some nice wins without him for sure, but that is probably as much teams overlooking them once Leonard is out.

 I can also tell you that when Leonard did actually play Simmons had 8 points and 7 turnovers and only took 6 shots
Simmons was also +1 in that game because he had 10 rebounds and 11 assists (and he made 4 of those 6 shots) and he was a monster defensively.  I mean Lowry was 2 of 8 for 7 points, 4 boards, and 4 assists and Danny Green was even worse (i.e. the starting backcourt of which Simmons was a key defensive component guarding).  Why ignore the good things Simmons does?  And of course, Leonard didn't guard Simmons, he was on Butler who ended with 38 points and 10 rebounds.  Embiid's 5 of 17 and -23 was the reason the Sixers lost that game.  Of course that doesn't fit your narrative, which is why you didn't bother to mention that.

What exactly is my narrative? I have a belief that the elite teams in the east can neutralize some of simmons flaws. Many articles by third party sites have discussed this. It is not something I came up with on my own. He struggled against us in the playoffs last year. I think he is a very good player and has a chance to be really great. Not really sure what is so controversial about it. And if someone says they would like to see him put up a complete game against an elite team a few times in wins, is that controversial?
We have shown that we can expose some of Simmons flaws.  I wouldn't necessarily propagate that to the other top teams in the East.  From a Derek Bodner after their Xmas loss to us.

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In the nine games the Sixers have played against the Celtics over the past two seasons, Simmons has the worst plus/minus on the team. Itís not even close. The team is -125 in the 403 minutes Simmons has played against Boston, which includes a -37 in four regular-season games last season, -63 in five playoff games and a -25 in the two games this season. The other two starters who have been here the entire time? Redick is a -15 in 350 minutes and Embiid is a +10 in 358

He looked pretty bad against the bucks and when he played against the full strength raptors (2x). I think it is time for him to shoot some jumpers.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1756 on: January 14, 2019, 05:17:49 PM »

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20 points, 22 rebounds, 9 assists from Simmons today against the Knicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZX9W7wzQEc

He even hit a fadeaway from midrange (1:31 of the video).

I know most of you guys believe he's overrated, but meh, I don't care. :P Simmons, Giannis, Jokic and Luka are my favorite non-Celtics to watch right now.

Btw, there's speculation (although not from credible sources) that the Sixers might make Simmons available in a package for AD. If I were the Pels, I'd take Simmons + 2021 Miami unprotected first + more pick(s) over Tatum + pick(s) or whatever the Lakers may offer.

But then again, I'm really high on Simmons. At the end of the day, Simmons is a polarizing player. Either you love him or you consider him overrated. Perhaps the Pels GM considers him overrated.

Looks like some guys on Liberty Ballers are right. Simmons sucks against good teams and has great stats against bad teams that's why to some he is great.

Yea he really posts fat stat lines against lousy teams. Wake me up when he has a good game against bucks, Celtics, raptors, warrrior etc and the 76ers winZ I will legit be impressed at that point
You mean like the 26/12/8 on 11 of 13 shooting he had against Toronto in his most recent game against the Raptors.

You realize Leonard didn't play that game right? Toronto without Leonard is guess what? A bad team.
They are 8-2 without Leonard this year and just beat Indiana by 16 without him.  The 2 games before Philly in which Leonard didn't play were back to back road victories by 20 or more points against the Clippers and then Warriors.  Early in the year, they also won back to back road games against the Lakers and Jazz by 14 and 13 respectively, again without Leonard. 

Perhaps you might want to reevaluate your position on the Raptors without Leonard.

If you really think a team a raptors team missing leonard (and jonas) is a good team, i don't really know what to tell you. They have some nice wins without him for sure, but that is probably as much teams overlooking them once Leonard is out.

 I can also tell you that when Leonard did actually play Simmons had 8 points and 7 turnovers and only took 6 shots
Simmons was also +1 in that game because he had 10 rebounds and 11 assists (and he made 4 of those 6 shots) and he was a monster defensively.  I mean Lowry was 2 of 8 for 7 points, 4 boards, and 4 assists and Danny Green was even worse (i.e. the starting backcourt of which Simmons was a key defensive component guarding).  Why ignore the good things Simmons does?  And of course, Leonard didn't guard Simmons, he was on Butler who ended with 38 points and 10 rebounds.  Embiid's 5 of 17 and -23 was the reason the Sixers lost that game.  Of course that doesn't fit your narrative, which is why you didn't bother to mention that.

What exactly is my narrative? I have a belief that the elite teams in the east can neutralize some of simmons flaws. Many articles by third party sites have discussed this. It is not something I came up with on my own. He struggled against us in the playoffs last year. I think he is a very good player and has a chance to be really great. Not really sure what is so controversial about it. And if someone says they would like to see him put up a complete game against an elite team a few times in wins, is that controversial?
We have shown that we can expose some of Simmons flaws.  I wouldn't necessarily propagate that to the other top teams in the East.  From a Derek Bodner after their Xmas loss to us.

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In the nine games the Sixers have played against the Celtics over the past two seasons, Simmons has the worst plus/minus on the team. Itís not even close. The team is -125 in the 403 minutes Simmons has played against Boston, which includes a -37 in four regular-season games last season, -63 in five playoff games and a -25 in the two games this season. The other two starters who have been here the entire time? Redick is a -15 in 350 minutes and Embiid is a +10 in 358

He looked pretty bad against the bucks and when he played against the full strength raptors (2x). I think it is time for him to shoot some jumpers.
How exactly did he look bad against the Raptors in the game we were discussing?  What because he only took 6 shots (making 4 mind you), that makes him look bad.  Against the Bucks he went for 14/13/11 and again the starting backcourt of Bledsoe and Brogdon was awful (a combined 9 of 30) and Fultz started that game next to Simmons. 

Tazz is right, just because Boston does very well against Simmons, doesn't mean everyone does.  Even last year, Simmons struggled against Boston in the regular season, but he still had plenty of very strong games against truly elite competition like the Warriors (in both Warriors games the Sixers were better with Simmons on the floor and in the 2nd game, significantly better with him on the floor and htose were in the first month of his professional career).  His second game against Houston was very strong.  Both Portland games (the 3 seed last year) very strong.  Triple doubles in 2 of the 3 Pacer games last year.   

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1757 on: January 14, 2019, 05:50:45 PM »

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20 points, 22 rebounds, 9 assists from Simmons today against the Knicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZX9W7wzQEc

He even hit a fadeaway from midrange (1:31 of the video).

I know most of you guys believe he's overrated, but meh, I don't care. :P Simmons, Giannis, Jokic and Luka are my favorite non-Celtics to watch right now.

Btw, there's speculation (although not from credible sources) that the Sixers might make Simmons available in a package for AD. If I were the Pels, I'd take Simmons + 2021 Miami unprotected first + more pick(s) over Tatum + pick(s) or whatever the Lakers may offer.

But then again, I'm really high on Simmons. At the end of the day, Simmons is a polarizing player. Either you love him or you consider him overrated. Perhaps the Pels GM considers him overrated.

Looks like some guys on Liberty Ballers are right. Simmons sucks against good teams and has great stats against bad teams that's why to some he is great.

Yea he really posts fat stat lines against lousy teams. Wake me up when he has a good game against bucks, Celtics, raptors, warrrior etc and the 76ers winZ I will legit be impressed at that point
You mean like the 26/12/8 on 11 of 13 shooting he had against Toronto in his most recent game against the Raptors.

You realize Leonard didn't play that game right? Toronto without Leonard is guess what? A bad team.
They are 8-2 without Leonard this year and just beat Indiana by 16 without him.  The 2 games before Philly in which Leonard didn't play were back to back road victories by 20 or more points against the Clippers and then Warriors.  Early in the year, they also won back to back road games against the Lakers and Jazz by 14 and 13 respectively, again without Leonard. 

Perhaps you might want to reevaluate your position on the Raptors without Leonard.

If you really think a team a raptors team missing leonard (and jonas) is a good team, i don't really know what to tell you. They have some nice wins without him for sure, but that is probably as much teams overlooking them once Leonard is out.

 I can also tell you that when Leonard did actually play Simmons had 8 points and 7 turnovers and only took 6 shots
Simmons was also +1 in that game because he had 10 rebounds and 11 assists (and he made 4 of those 6 shots) and he was a monster defensively.  I mean Lowry was 2 of 8 for 7 points, 4 boards, and 4 assists and Danny Green was even worse (i.e. the starting backcourt of which Simmons was a key defensive component guarding).  Why ignore the good things Simmons does?  And of course, Leonard didn't guard Simmons, he was on Butler who ended with 38 points and 10 rebounds.  Embiid's 5 of 17 and -23 was the reason the Sixers lost that game.  Of course that doesn't fit your narrative, which is why you didn't bother to mention that.

What exactly is my narrative? I have a belief that the elite teams in the east can neutralize some of simmons flaws. Many articles by third party sites have discussed this. It is not something I came up with on my own. He struggled against us in the playoffs last year. I think he is a very good player and has a chance to be really great. Not really sure what is so controversial about it. And if someone says they would like to see him put up a complete game against an elite team a few times in wins, is that controversial?
We have shown that we can expose some of Simmons flaws.  I wouldn't necessarily propagate that to the other top teams in the East.  From a Derek Bodner after their Xmas loss to us.

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In the nine games the Sixers have played against the Celtics over the past two seasons, Simmons has the worst plus/minus on the team. Itís not even close. The team is -125 in the 403 minutes Simmons has played against Boston, which includes a -37 in four regular-season games last season, -63 in five playoff games and a -25 in the two games this season. The other two starters who have been here the entire time? Redick is a -15 in 350 minutes and Embiid is a +10 in 358

He looked pretty bad against the bucks and when he played against the full strength raptors (2x). I think it is time for him to shoot some jumpers.
How exactly did he look bad against the Raptors in the game we were discussing?  What because he only took 6 shots (making 4 mind you), that makes him look bad.  Against the Bucks he went for 14/13/11 and again the starting backcourt of Bledsoe and Brogdon was awful (a combined 9 of 30) and Fultz started that game next to Simmons. 

Tazz is right, just because Boston does very well against Simmons, doesn't mean everyone does.  Even last year, Simmons struggled against Boston in the regular season, but he still had plenty of very strong games against truly elite competition like the Warriors (in both Warriors games the Sixers were better with Simmons on the floor and in the 2nd game, significantly better with him on the floor and htose were in the first month of his professional career).  His second game against Houston was very strong.  Both Portland games (the 3 seed last year) very strong.  Triple doubles in 2 of the 3 Pacer games last year.   

Did you actually watch the Raptors 76ers game? He literally looked bad. Lots of turnovers (7 of them) and some of them just inexcusable throwing them out of bounds.How did he do in his other game where Leonard played. 11 TURNOVERS. I would absolutely lose my mind if I watched Irving have 18 turnovers in two games against a fellow contender and I can't imagine in my wildest dreams anyone saying he played even ok or trying to defend him...what a weird take by you.

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070781

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1758 on: Yesterday at 09:35:30 AM »

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76ers have a tough match-ups for the next 3 weeks. it might be our only chance to jump into 4th place. We suck... but i think we have mostly home-games coming up.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25756733/the-next-three-weeks-make-break-76ers

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« Reply #1759 on: Yesterday at 10:03:57 AM »

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76ers have a tough match-ups for the next 3 weeks. it might be our only chance to jump into 4th place. We suck... but i think we have mostly home-games coming up.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25756733/the-next-three-weeks-make-break-76ers
Boston does have 7 of 8 at home though Toronto and Golden State are 2 of those games.  Either way, the team really does need to go 6-2 or better as after that starts a very difficult 17 game stretch.  That 17 games stretch includes 10 road games and only NY, CLE, and CHI are "easy" teams and of the 7 home games the 2 easiest games are DET and WAS and that stretch ends with 4 straight out west.  Boston could somewhat realistically only go 5-12 or so.  The last 15 games are much easier though so there should be a chance to pick up some ground again.