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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1260 on: November 20, 2018, 07:38:28 PM »

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1261 on: November 20, 2018, 10:21:18 PM »

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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1262 on: November 20, 2018, 11:29:30 PM »

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yikes

https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/11/20/18104793/markelle-fultz-to-see-a-shoulder-specialist
Markelle Fultz will see a shoulder specialist early next week at the direction of his agent Raymond Brothers.

Fultz will not participate in team practices or games until after he is seen by the specialist.

Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."
from 76ers forum:

"This move today stinks of being agent driven. His agent sees the writing on the wall that Fultz can only play PG, and that spot is taken here. So he's making moves to help get him out of town. He wants his client to have his own team to run so he can put up (empty) numbers and lock in a big extension. All of that is unlikely here, hence this power play."


Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1263 on: November 21, 2018, 12:02:10 AM »

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Zhaire Smith may miss the entire season due... to a food allergy. 

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-rookie-smith-in-danger-of-not-playing-all-season/

Pretty odd story, though Sixers remain consistent in not playing rookies.  :)
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1264 on: November 21, 2018, 12:36:27 AM »

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Zhaire Smith may miss the entire season due... to a food allergy. 

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-rookie-smith-in-danger-of-not-playing-all-season/

Pretty odd story, though Sixers remain consistent in not playing rookies.  :)
pretty incompetent for a team to not be aware of a players significant food alergy

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1265 on: November 21, 2018, 12:48:47 AM »

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Zhaire Smith may miss the entire season due... to a food allergy. 

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-rookie-smith-in-danger-of-not-playing-all-season/

Pretty odd story, though Sixers remain consistent in not playing rookies.  :)
pretty incompetent for a team to not be aware of a players significant food alergy
Might help if you actually read the article.  Not sure how you expect the Sixers to know of his sesame allergy when Smith himself didn't. 

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team sources told reporters that they were aware of Smithís peanut allergy and prepared his food individually, but the team and the player were unaware that he also had a sesame allergy

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1266 on: November 21, 2018, 01:12:32 AM »

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Zhaire Smith may miss the entire season due... to a food allergy. 

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-rookie-smith-in-danger-of-not-playing-all-season/

Pretty odd story, though Sixers remain consistent in not playing rookies.  :)
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1267 on: November 21, 2018, 06:18:19 AM »

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That headline is garbage.  There is nothing in that article to suggest Smith is going to miss the season.  No timetable for return doesn't mean the whole season.  Poor writing/editing from Amico

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1268 on: November 21, 2018, 09:42:18 AM »

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That headline is garbage.  There is nothing in that article to suggest Smith is going to miss the season.  No timetable for return doesn't mean the whole season.  Poor writing/editing from Amico

Everybody seems to have the same headline: https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/11/20/18105155/zhaire-smith-injury-update-sixers-philadelphia-76ers


Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1269 on: November 21, 2018, 10:24:41 AM »

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From ESPN:

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Probably. I'm curious what that thing or things were that turned them off that, apparently, no other team saw.
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1270 on: November 21, 2018, 11:23:34 AM »

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Probably. I'm curious what that thing or things were that turned them off that, apparently, no other team saw.

I think now we might be getting into revisionist history.

Of course now that Fultz looks like a bust, the C's and all of us would love to believe that guru Danny and Co. knew Fultz would be a bust, they're just that good.

But it may actually be that they liked Fultz but that they just liked Tatum better.  Or maybe they thought Fultz and Tatum were about equal, but they would rather have Tatum + additional pick over just Fultz.

We also don't know that no other team saw it.  We know LA supposedly didn't want to trade up, we know Philly did.  The media seemed to think Fultz was the unanimous #1 sure, but we don't know what all 30 teams were thinking.

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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1271 on: November 21, 2018, 12:29:08 PM »

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Probably. I'm curious what that thing or things were that turned them off that, apparently, no other team saw.

I think now we might be getting into revisionist history.

Of course now that Fultz looks like a bust, the C's and all of us would love to believe that guru Danny and Co. knew Fultz would be a bust, they're just that good.

But it may actually be that they liked Fultz but that they just liked Tatum better.  Or maybe they thought Fultz and Tatum were about equal, but they would rather have Tatum + additional pick over just Fultz.

We also don't know that no other team saw it.  We know LA supposedly didn't want to trade up, we know Philly did.  The media seemed to think Fultz was the unanimous #1 sure, but we don't know what all 30 teams were thinking.

That's all true. We don't know for sure how everyone had the teams ranked and we don't actually know for sure that Ainge would've taken Tatum #1 if Philly didn't make the trade. My recollection, though, is that Fultz and Ball were the consensus top 2 and Tatum/Jackson were the consensus next 2 (at least that was the reporting) and the Celtics actively got out of the first spot so they could take someone other than one of those 2 who is now, clearly, the best of the 4.

Given just how far Fultz has fallen, I'm incredibly curious was led Aing and the C's to that decision.
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1272 on: November 21, 2018, 12:57:58 PM »

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From ESPN:

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Probably. I'm curious what that thing or things were that turned them off that, apparently, no other team saw.

I think now we might be getting into revisionist history.

Of course now that Fultz looks like a bust, the C's and all of us would love to believe that guru Danny and Co. knew Fultz would be a bust, they're just that good.

But it may actually be that they liked Fultz but that they just liked Tatum better.  Or maybe they thought Fultz and Tatum were about equal, but they would rather have Tatum + additional pick over just Fultz.

We also don't know that no other team saw it.  We know LA supposedly didn't want to trade up, we know Philly did.  The media seemed to think Fultz was the unanimous #1 sure, but we don't know what all 30 teams were thinking.

what I am actually saying is that they in fact made the decision on something else.  I'm just not at liberty to say, 1st) because my name is my real name.  2cd) most importantly is because it's 'off the record".  people may say i'm listening to the "deli guy" , but they would be wrong

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1273 on: November 21, 2018, 01:41:36 PM »

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Sixers coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.

"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago.

"Ever since Jimmy Butler came [last week] and [Fultz] wasn't starting, I thought he played pretty well. I was proud of him the way he bounced back from a lot of things."

Brand also seemed bemused as to why Fultz couldn't have an appointment take place sometime before next week.

"I don't know how long he's going to be out," Brand said. "I know Monday is the consultation. I asked, 'Why Monday?' He said, 'It was the best day they could get an appointment.'

So is this Sixers dysfunction or Fultz team dysfunction or a combination?

Either way, I'm curious what Ainge and the Celtics saw that convinced them to skip Fultz in the draft that apparently nobody else saw.
they did interviews with his teachers and guidance counselors to learn more about Fultz mentality. Also fultz Had a bad workout with us

it was more than just that

Yeah, it was definitely more than the workout. Like, what did they find out about him when they spoke to his teachers and old coaches, etc?

what i meant is that it was more than both of those things

Probably. I'm curious what that thing or things were that turned them off that, apparently, no other team saw.

I think now we might be getting into revisionist history.

Of course now that Fultz looks like a bust, the C's and all of us would love to believe that guru Danny and Co. knew Fultz would be a bust, they're just that good.

But it may actually be that they liked Fultz but that they just liked Tatum better.  Or maybe they thought Fultz and Tatum were about equal, but they would rather have Tatum + additional pick over just Fultz.

We also don't know that no other team saw it.  We know LA supposedly didn't want to trade up, we know Philly did.  The media seemed to think Fultz was the unanimous #1 sure, but we don't know what all 30 teams were thinking.

what I am actually saying is that they in fact made the decision on something else.  I'm just not at liberty to say, 1st) because my name is my real name.  2cd) most importantly is because it's 'off the record".  people may say i'm listening to the "deli guy" , but they would be wrong

Bet it had to do with scoring poorly on the brain doctor (Niednagel) test.

http://celticsgreen.blogspot.com/2007/06/just-who-is-brain-doctor-anyway.html
Ainge puts a lot of stock in that.

Also, something regarding mental toughness.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #1274 on: November 21, 2018, 06:40:09 PM »

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Apparently, Fultz wants out:

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Sources with knowledge of Fultzís thinking have also told The Athletic that the player would prefer a fresh start with a new team.

https://theathletic.com/669684/2018/11/21/markelle-fultz-dealing-with-wrist-issue-on-top-of-shoulder-woes-sources-say-he-would-prefer-a-move-to-new-team/

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