I don't really see a guy like holiday or Lowry signing a huge deal with Philly until embiid shows he can get through normal minutes for more than a 1/3 of a season and see how Simmons look in the pros. Remember Lebron was a lot younger than Lowry and didn't want the cavs to wait around for Wiggins. Established vets never sign on for the excitement of young players and their potential. It is literally the opposite.
They'll go where they are offered the most money like most free agents do. Lebron wanted Wiggins traded for Love to get a 3rd star to compete for championships. Can't see Toronto getting past the Cavs. They're more likely to get bounced in the 1st round. Sixers are probably a step from NOP for Holiday.
They will both get max offers multiple places most likely
you think Holiday gets a max offer?
At least Evan Turner money. Ha. There are teams in need. Once CP and Lowry stay where they are, teams will do "something." That usually means overpaying the wrong guy.
And that wrong guy: Jrue Holiday.
Yea. I mean I don't think it is a deal there isn't a good chance the team regrets, but he made an all-star game, is just turning 27, is a two way player and seems like less of an injury risk than chandler parsons was. It will be a lot of money. I don't see why a team like Brooklyn couldn't, and shouldn't pay more than a team like philly for a guy like him. It is kind of funny to me that people think players with tons of options are going to end up in Philly this offseason. i think after next season if Simmons looks good and Embiid stays healthy there will start to be more interest. There just seems to be too many questions right now for both players to want to join them on huge deals and for them to want to commit a huge deal without seeing their young guys on the court together a single time.
To be honest, I am a lot more interested in what a team like Minnesota does this offseason. They actually have had Towns and Wiggins play together for a few years. They were super disappointing last year, but i would rather have the guys without the injury issues. It is tough to know if players around the league like Tibs as a coach. At one point he seemed pretty highly respected.
The Nets have Jeremy Lin for 2 more seasons. They don't need a PG.
The Twolves don't have the flexibility that the Sixers do. They're not going to be interesting until Towns and Wiggins start playing defense.
Is this serious?
1) Lin is at best a fringe starter and came off the bench in charlotte, at times very nicely.
2) Lin signed a 3 year 36 million dollar contract. This also reflects low level starter money at best. Many elite bench players make this in the new CBA.
3) if need be Lin could play shooting guard alongside holiday or other star point guard
4) the nets desperately need young talent and are not going to turn down a player like holiday over a player like Jeremy Lin
5) they have repeatedly been linked to other point guards
6) they are expected to have up to 33 million in cap space
Look If you hope philly gets one of these guys for some reason or personally think it would be cool, fair enough. Lets at least keep the comments on other teams and their needs loosely based on facts
The Nets have a whole lot of needs. Holiday, who is about to turn 27 with an injury history, is not young talent. Jeremy Lin is a decent starting PG. The Nets have better uses for their cap space. I'd expect a salary dump trade with the Blazers (e.g. Crabbe plus a 1st). If they are going to try to spend big bucks, it would probably be on an RFA like Porter or KCP.
As for the Sixers, I'd already said getting Lowry or Holiday by itself wouldn't be a good idea. It could make sense if they trade for a star like Butler first. Personally, I wouldn't commit long term big bucks in free agency this offseason due to uncertainties of Embiid's health and Simmons ability to run the offense. I probably also wouldn't trade the #3 for #5 and #10.
My approach in order of preference would be:
1) Trade up for Fultz.
Probably would go as high as #3, better of Lakers/Sixers 2018, Saric
Embiid, Simmons, Fultz would be a great fit and easily best young core.
2) Trade for Butler or McCollum
Probably couldn't get either but both would be good fit.
3) Stand pat at #3.
Probably take Jackson or Fox depending on whose shooting I'm more confident in.