ESPN: 10 of 15 polled Execs says Dwight Howard value in a trade is 2nd rd pick

[rondohondo]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

[positivitize]

2/3rds


And I don't want Howard. He'll want to post up and will gum up the offense.
If he could learn to embrace being a roll guy in pick and roll, he could be effective for us, but he's too set in his thinking that he's a superstar pound the ball center.

On the defensive end, Howard would be big. And rebounding. But I don't think we want to deal with the headache he'd cause on offense.

[saltlover]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

Really, NBA executives?  The going rate for a reserve, interior-only center last free agency period was $16 million for 4 years.  Howard is making $23 million for three years, and that's only a second? I can only guess, if that's true, that virtually every teammate he's ever had has badmouthed him in private.   He's still very good at what he does, and teams are willing to pay a lot of money to players who do what he does, but much less well, a ton of money.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Howard has become a lot more stiff the last two years. Up and down, he is sturdy, but side to side, he is not.

He ranks in the 10th percentile guarding big men on the pick-and-roll. That's 10th.

He is one of the best post defenders (97th percentile) in the league. He is also a good ISO defender (60th percentile). His rebounding rate is near tops in the NBA (75% rebounds per chance adjusted). He is also defending the rim pretty well allowing 45% shooting at the rim. And overall, players shoot 4% worse against him.

There is no doubt that he would help our weaknesses. However, so far, as Ainge builds, he has built a team that fits CBS system. Howard does not fit that system. Unless CBS is committed to building around Howard's weaknesses, that move might frustrate CBS.

If CBS was completely on board and the price was a Johnson, Zeller, and one (or two) future non-Brooklyn first, I'd be all-in.

[hpantazo]

Howard no longer has the lateral quickness to be a top defensive big man in today's NBA. We won in 2008 because KG had the lateral quickness to be highly effective on defense. We need a guy like KG to anchor our defense.

On offense, Howard not only has zero shooting range , but is all of his years in the league he has failed to develop a single offensive move. He rebounds the ball very well and can defend the post, but that's not worth so much in today's NBA.

[manl_lui]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

I'll give them as many 2nds and our first for Dwight

[Jon]

2/3rds


And I don't want Howard. He'll want to post up and will gum up the offense.
If he could learn to embrace being a roll guy in pick and roll, he could be effective for us, but he's too set in his thinking that he's a superstar pound the ball center.

On the defensive end, Howard would be big. And rebounding. But I don't think we want to deal with the headache he'd cause on offense.

Though would being dumped by the Hawks for a second rounder be enough to make him swallow his pride and accept a different role here?

There's a big difference between the Hawks wooing him to go there and is being like, "ah, sure we'll take you for a second rounder."

[Rosco917]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

You need to consider the style of play the Celtics choose to play. Other than coming off the bench when he's needed, Howard is a poor fit. You can't have a player making 20 million a year being used 18-20 minutes a game.

Not every player fits on every team.

[max215]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

Really, NBA executives?  The going rate for a reserve, interior-only center last free agency period was $16 million for 4 years.  Howard is making $23 million for three years, and that's only a second? I can only guess, if that's true, that virtually every teammate he's ever had has badmouthed him in private.   He's still very good at what he does, and teams are willing to pay a lot of money to players who do what he does, but much less well, a ton of money.

I would imagine this outcome has very little to do with his on court production.

[greece66]

i am wary of reports where the journalist is not precise about how many execs he interviewed.

[mgent]

Of course they're going to say that.

They obviously want to lower his value, not raise it.

[saltlover]

i am wary of reports where the journalist is not precise about how many execs he interviewed.

I am as well, which is why I qualified my statement with "if that's true."

[PAOBoston]

A big nope on this guy. Loser mentality, loser player. If he was an expiring deal maybe. But on a long term deal?  Forget it.

[BitterJim]

2/3rd of NBA execs may think he's only worth a 2nd rounder, but only 2 really matter: the Hawks GM and whoever is willing to give up the most. It's what the other 5 GMs said that I'm interested in

[gift]

Kevin Arnovitz on Dwight Howard trade value: I did a poll among 12-15 execs, 10 of which said, “I don’t know, maybe a low second (round pick).

If that's the case I am all for Bringing him in. He would help a lot.

Why is it "12-15" executives, but he knows exactly 10 that gave the same answer? Sounds imprecise, leading me to believe it is also possibly inaccurate.

I haven't even thought about Howard's value myself, but I hate the way these writers present these things. It just makes me skeptical. I feel like it was one guy and he lumped in a bunch of others who didn't explicitly disagree. And were these 12-15 guys standing around in a group? Or did he ask them all individually? If so, why doesn't he know exactly how many he polled with the question? Did 10 of them give the exact same answer? That would be unlikely if they were asked separately.