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Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #300 on: December 29, 2016, 09:44:47 PM »

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IT is still battling. Love his competitiveness but he needs some help out there.

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #301 on: December 29, 2016, 09:45:09 PM »

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Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.
funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.
Exactly. Didn't take a genius to leave him in

He was consistently missing defensive assignments.
Well. Let's look at the game stream play by play....can we generally agree Richard Jefferson was his man? There was that alley oops by Jefferson where he got behind the play. The very next play was Jaylen assisting Gerald. And that's about it. Jefferson got fouled by Gerald so maybe Jefferson got by Jaylen. In the mean time Jaylen had made two shots in that time. Most of the issue was Kyrie schooling IT. So no. Just no.


Defensive rotations. Stevens was yelling at him for it which resulted in open threes, which have killed us thus far.
Exactly. Too much box score scouting
Speaking of the box score the Cavs have hit 12 out of 26 threes. Pretty good. Is anyone other than Jaylen going to be held responsible? How many guys is Jaylen supposed to defend? 3?

Jaylen doing a really bad of D from the bench!

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #302 on: December 29, 2016, 09:45:55 PM »

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Chris Webber basically echoed the thoughts many of us have, that we need to make some roster changes and get some size to fix our issues. Its on Ainge to get this done and not waste the prime years of IT and Horford.

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #303 on: December 29, 2016, 09:46:20 PM »

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IT is still battling. Love his competitiveness but he needs some help out there.

We need to get stops to get out in transition to help IT out, but with our D tonight we're not getting crap.
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Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #304 on: December 29, 2016, 09:46:35 PM »

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Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.
funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.
Exactly. Didn't take a genius to leave him in

He was consistently missing defensive assignments.
Well. Let's look at the game stream play by play....can we generally agree Richard Jefferson was his man? There was that alley oops by Jefferson where he got behind the play. The very next play was Jaylen assisting Gerald. And that's about it. Jefferson got fouled by Gerald so maybe Jefferson got by Jaylen. In the mean time Jaylen had made two shots in that time. Most of the issue was Kyrie schooling IT. So no. Just no.


Defensive rotations. Stevens was yelling at him for it which resulted in open threes, which have killed us thus far.
Exactly. Too much box score scouting
Speaking of the box score the Cavs have hit 12 out of 26 threes. Pretty good. Is anyone other than Jaylen going to be held responsible? How many guys is Jaylen supposed to defend? 3?
You are right with that mindset we should put Jordan Mickey in, James Young, Terry Rozier, and bring up Nader.

You aren't understanding the concept that the reason that these players are in is because they have the best chance of stopping and winning against the Cavs. You are right we should sit Al for Kelly that would be smart basketball right?
I'm not completely sold on your understanding of basketball

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #305 on: December 29, 2016, 09:46:46 PM »

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Only JJ has a better +- than Jaylen.

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #306 on: December 29, 2016, 09:46:57 PM »

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I keep reading comments that underestimate how good the Cavs are offensively


Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #307 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:21 PM »

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It is astounding how many bunnies Horford misses.
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Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #308 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:41 PM »

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omg Kelly got an offensive foul from LBJ

great job from Kelly there

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #309 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:46 PM »

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We need more heart than this

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #310 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:52 PM »

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Only JJ has a better +- than Jaylen.
Because JB has played 3 minutes

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #311 on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:03 PM »

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KO has been fairly active at least.

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #312 on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:04 PM »

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Is this good defense? Is that what we're seeing right now? Who will be held responsible for it?

Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #313 on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:32 PM »

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Is it just me, or is IT the only one playing out there?
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Re: Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16
« Reply #314 on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:50 PM »

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KO has been fairly active at least.
flailing your arms isn't active