Celtics (19-13) at Cavaliers (23-7) Game #33 12/29/16

[PAOBoston]

The leave Kevin love wide open game plan is not working for the C's

[celtics2030]

Somebody on this starting five really sucks at defending perimeter

[max215]

Might be a good idea to guard this Love cat. He seems pretty good.

[trickybilly]

Well, you cannot beat Cleveland when they're shooting this well..

[mr. dee]

Might be a good idea to guard this Love cat. He seems pretty good.

He was an all-star. Im baffled how the hell they are leaving him open too much.

[liam]

How are they getting these open 3s without Jaylen in there?

[alewilliam789]

Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.

funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.

He also came in and gave up 6 points in a matter of 3 minutes and 40 something seconds. Brad's playing to win and he's teaching Brown to play winning basketball. Until he consistently makes the correct/smart decisions defensively and offensively he won't get a ton of playing time. This will allow Brown to become a smarter player. He will get his time, but for now the Celtics should be focusing on winning this basketball game and I think Brown will agree

Ok so what's the excuse for $26 million men that can't buy rebounds, or players that can't hit a shot all game till crunch time, or players softer than a goose down pillow (and the goose was a Canadian goose high on doobies)? When do those guys get taught?

Well first of all these players have been in the league for multiple years. Horford was declining as a rebounder before we signed him and honestly that's on Danny for not bringing in extra help. He's also the best post scorer/frontcourt player we have and a shot blocker for us so his pros outweigh the cons for this team. Kelly will learn when he goes to get a contract this next year.

For Brown it's like this. If you can't play defense and are all offense why wouldn't we just play Green because he's shown it can light it up? If he's only playing defense why wouldn't we just play Crowder who has shown he knows the rotations and can lock down? Brown's pros don't outweigh his cons if he doesn't make the right plays

All these players at this point are what they are. Smart may not become a much better shooter, Olynyk won't become a beast over a span of seasons unless he takes like PEDS or something. Brown is a clay that Brad and Danny want to one day hand the keys to the franchise to. They want to teach him the right way to play so that when he's a veteran he can be the leader and winner that this team is looking for.

Ah. I see. Teach him to drive by NOT giving him the keys while he watches other drivers **** it up.  Very interesting driving school we got there. How's that school going by the way? How are we doing with recent highly drafted guys? Reaching their potential?

The highest drafted player we have on the roster besides Brown is Smart and that was a problem with the scouting department not seeing how horrific his shooting is.

It's what Pop did with Kawhi Leonard and look how he turned out.

By the way the analogy to driving is very incorrect. Brown has had the keys to the car for the length of season and he's shown he can't consistently make the right decisions despite having all the opportunity to make the right decisions. Therefore if he continues to make the same mistakes over and over why would you keep him in with Gerald Green balling behind him?

[jpotter33]

Somebody on this starting five really sucks at defending perimeter

It was Al in the first half. He's been hitting off of transition and help defense this half.

[SCeltic34]

It's on Brad to make an early sub.  This lineup clearly isn't working and we're bleeding 3's.  Go small with more speed on D to close to shooters.  Do something.

[walker834]

I hope we come back and can rub it in these tnt announcers faces

[Eja117]

Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.

funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.

Exactly. Didn't take a genius to leave him in

He was consistently missing defensive assignments.

Well. Let's look at the game stream play by play....can we generally agree Richard Jefferson was his man? There was that alley oops by Jefferson where he got behind the play. The very next play was Jaylen assisting Gerald. And that's about it. Jefferson got fouled by Gerald so maybe Jefferson got by Jaylen. In the mean time Jaylen had made two shots in that time. Most of the issue was Kyrie schooling IT. So no. Just no.

Defensive rotations. Stevens was yelling at him for it which resulted in open threes, which have killed us thus far.

Exactly. Too much box score scouting

Speaking of the box score the Cavs have hit 12 out of 26 threes. Pretty good. Is anyone other than Jaylen going to be held responsible? How many guys is Jaylen supposed to defend? 3?

[liam]

Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.

funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.

He also came in and gave up 6 points in a matter of 3 minutes and 40 something seconds. Brad's playing to win and he's teaching Brown to play winning basketball. Until he consistently makes the correct/smart decisions defensively and offensively he won't get a ton of playing time. This will allow Brown to become a smarter player. He will get his time, but for now the Celtics should be focusing on winning this basketball game and I think Brown will agree

Ok so what's the excuse for $26 million men that can't buy rebounds, or players that can't hit a shot all game till crunch time, or players softer than a goose down pillow (and the goose was a Canadian goose high on doobies)? When do those guys get taught?

Well first of all these players have been in the league for multiple years. Horford was declining as a rebounder before we signed him and honestly that's on Danny for not bringing in extra help. He's also the best post scorer/frontcourt player we have and a shot blocker for us so his pros outweigh the cons for this team. Kelly will learn when he goes to get a contract this next year.

For Brown it's like this. If you can't play defense and are all offense why wouldn't we just play Green because he's shown it can light it up? If he's only playing defense why wouldn't we just play Crowder who has shown he knows the rotations and can lock down? Brown's pros don't outweigh his cons if he doesn't make the right plays

All these players at this point are what they are. Smart may not become a much better shooter, Olynyk won't become a beast over a span of seasons unless he takes like PEDS or something. Brown is a clay that Brad and Danny want to one day hand the keys to the franchise to. They want to teach him the right way to play so that when he's a veteran he can be the leader and winner that this team is looking for.

Ah. I see. Teach him to drive by NOT giving him the keys while he watches other drivers **** it up.  Very interesting driving school we got there. How's that school going by the way? How are we doing with recent highly drafted guys? Reaching their potential?

The highest drafted player we have on the roster besides Brown is Smart and that was a problem with the scouting department not seeing how horrific his shooting is.

It's what Pop did with Kawhi Leonard and look how he turned out.

By the way the analogy to driving is very incorrect. Brown has had the keys to the car for the length of season and he's shown he can't consistently make the right decisions despite having all the opportunity to make the right decisions. Therefore if he continues to make the same mistakes over and over why would you keep him in with Gerald Green balling behind him?

I think you're watching a different Brown. The one I'm watching looks good enough to get more than 4 minutes.

[max215]

Might be a good idea to guard this Love cat. He seems pretty good.

He was an all-star. Im baffled how the hell they are leaving him open too much.

He's also been freaking fantastic all year. Mind-boggling that he's taken 6 to 7 WIDE open threes.

[jpotter33]

Al has three blocks, but he's been otherwise terrible defensively tonight. Between Love and TT, he's given up a ton of points off of helping too much or getting backdoored.

[Eja117]

Stevens is simply not doing a good job coaching this year. He puts in Jaylen. Jaylen does some of his best basketball and they pull close. Immediately takes him out. Cavs pull away. Just bad coaching this year. Rewarding softness. Punishing good play. That's Brad this year.

funny this is not the first time he done that.

Jaylen blew two defensive assignments that's why he got pulled. He needs to have better awareness defensively if he's going to play because plays like that kill us in this types of games

If everyone got pulled for blown defensive assignments no one would play. Look at Green, Kelly, JJ, etc...

But for our young player it doesn't send a good message to play him anyways? You want him to become disciplined and make the right plays and considering we have Green coming in and cooking than he should know we don't have to play him. He needs to earn his minutes.

So Jaylen should be held to a standard that no one else on the team is? What does that teach a young player?

To become disciplined and studious of the game. You people act like this is the first time he's missed defensive assignments. He's had a problem on rotations all season and it has not gotten much better.  If you come in after 5 minutes and give up two 3 pointers you should get pulled considering you have two competant SF with abilities to make contributions as well.

I love JB by the way

Brown played 4 minutes scored 4 points, 2 rebounds and an assist.

He also came in and gave up 6 points in a matter of 3 minutes and 40 something seconds. Brad's playing to win and he's teaching Brown to play winning basketball. Until he consistently makes the correct/smart decisions defensively and offensively he won't get a ton of playing time. This will allow Brown to become a smarter player. He will get his time, but for now the Celtics should be focusing on winning this basketball game and I think Brown will agree

Ok so what's the excuse for $26 million men that can't buy rebounds, or players that can't hit a shot all game till crunch time, or players softer than a goose down pillow (and the goose was a Canadian goose high on doobies)? When do those guys get taught?

Well first of all these players have been in the league for multiple years. Horford was declining as a rebounder before we signed him and honestly that's on Danny for not bringing in extra help. He's also the best post scorer/frontcourt player we have and a shot blocker for us so his pros outweigh the cons for this team. Kelly will learn when he goes to get a contract this next year.

For Brown it's like this. If you can't play defense and are all offense why wouldn't we just play Green because he's shown it can light it up? If he's only playing defense why wouldn't we just play Crowder who has shown he knows the rotations and can lock down? Brown's pros don't outweigh his cons if he doesn't make the right plays

All these players at this point are what they are. Smart may not become a much better shooter, Olynyk won't become a beast over a span of seasons unless he takes like PEDS or something. Brown is a clay that Brad and Danny want to one day hand the keys to the franchise to. They want to teach him the right way to play so that when he's a veteran he can be the leader and winner that this team is looking for.

Ah. I see. Teach him to drive by NOT giving him the keys while he watches other drivers **** it up.  Very interesting driving school we got there. How's that school going by the way? How are we doing with recent highly drafted guys? Reaching their potential?

The highest drafted player we have on the roster besides Brown is Smart and that was a problem with the scouting department not seeing how horrific his shooting is.

It's what Pop did with Kawhi Leonard and look how he turned out.

By the way the analogy to driving is very incorrect. Brown has had the keys to the car for the length of season and he's shown he can't consistently make the right decisions despite having all the opportunity to make the right decisions. Therefore if he continues to make the same mistakes over and over why would you keep him in with Gerald Green balling behind him?

Because he's 19 and far more talented.