Adrian Wojnarowski: Celtics "might overvalue some of the players they have"

[Celtic_Pride777]

Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical sees a potential roadblock to any trade made by Danny Ainge

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/nba-trade-rumors-adrian-wojnarowski-links-boston-celtics-to-gordon-hayward-in-free-agency-says-nerlens-noel-stock-falling

[Who]

It does feel a little reminiscent of the Baby Bulls era in mid-00s.

[Donoghus]

I have very little doubt they do.  I think its pretty apparent but almost all organizations do that.  If trades are made, it's because, ultimately, a compromise is reached on value.

[Csfan1984]

might

Of course they do. And even if they didn't value a guy much you don't let the other team know that.

[wdleehi]

It is his opinion

“I do wonder sometimes if Boston might overvalue some of the players they have compared to what the rest of the league sees in them. I think Marcus Smart might be starting to fall into that category. His name’s been in some talks previously, and they’ve been pretty careful about who they’d give him up for.”

I love his breaking news, his opinions, not so much.

[snively]

It does feel a little reminiscent of the Baby Bulls era in mid-00s.

Smart = Hinrich

[walker834]

IT, Smart, Bradley, Brown, Horford are not overvalued.  IT maybe by some.  Even Crowder isn't.  These guys are championship caliber pieces although none of them may be superstars there are stars there.  There are also championship level top of the bench roleplayers there and quality championship level starters..

Guys like Zeller, KO, Green and Amir are basically about as average to below average placeholders and vets as they come.  Honestly any big man of quality would  be an upgrade to any of these guys.  KO has the most value here.

Zizic, Yab and Young actually have nba level upside and could replace any of the above in the future.

Jackson, Mickey etc are about as average d-league fringe roster average prospects as they come.  Jackson out of the two probably has more nba level upside. Rj Hunter was this too. Any of these guys could be cut without thinking twice minus maybe jackson. These guys are really no better than Gabe Pruitt. 

[CelticGuardian]

This same thing was said around draft night

IT, Smart, Bradley, Brown, Horford are not overvalued.  IT maybe by some.  Even Crowder isn't.  These guys are championship caliber pieces although none of them may be superstars there are stars there.  There are also championship level top of the bench roleplayers there and quality championship level starters..

Guys like Zeller, KO, Green and Amir are basically about as average to below average placeholders and vets as they come.  Honestly any big man of quality would  be an upgrade to any of these guys.  KO has the most value here.

Zizic, Yab and Young actually have nba level upside and could replace any of the above in the future.

Jackson, Mickey etc are about as average d-league fringe roster average prospects as they come.  Jackson out of the two probably has more nba level upside. Rj Hunter was this too. Any of these guys could be cut without thinking twice minus maybe jackson. These guys are really no better than Gabe Pruitt. 

Championship level players, huh?

[TrueFan]

It is his opinion

“I do wonder sometimes if Boston might overvalue some of the players they have compared to what the rest of the league sees in them. I think Marcus Smart might be starting to fall into that category. His name’s been in some talks previously, and they’ve been pretty careful about who they’d give him up for.”

I love his breaking news, his opinions, not so much.

Unless he has heard rumors of Ainge turning down a Noel for Smart trade because Ainge wanted more back or because he asked for Okafor instead.

Woj's opinions might hold more weight then most since he's privy to so much info.

[walker834]

Where the celtics excel is we have have 5 or 6 roster players who are championship level pieces. The rest of our roster also makes sense as far as depth is concerned and replacing guys with better pieces. The issue is Zeller, KO, Green and Amir should actually be good big men and a superstar.

Yab, Zizic and Young should be end of the bench guys

Mickey, jackson etc shouldn't even be on the roster.

[Roy H.]

The Celtics are careful about who they would trade Smart for? Is that a bad thing?

[TrueFan]

Where the celtics excel is we have have 5 or 6 roster players who are championship level pieces. The rest of our roster also makes sense as far as depth is concerned and replacing guys with better pieces. The issue is Zeller, KO, Green and Amir should actually be good big men and a superstar.

Yab, Zizic and Young should be end of the bench guys

Mickey, jackson etc shouldn't even be on the roster.

I agree with your roster comments.

[walker834]

when we won in 08 we had guys like powe and other guys at the end of our bench. Davis was not middle of the roster guy. He was at the end of the bench where we had quality big men in Davis and better vets.   We also had a superstar in KG and a guy liek Pierce. 

posey wasnt our starting sf he was a bench guy like crowder should be.  Amir wasn't starting KG was.

pj brown was a bench rotation guy.

[CelticGuardian]

Way I see it is this...

Above Average starters:

IT
Horford

Average starters:

Bradley
Crowder

Bench pieces:

Smart
Jerebko

Young-n-hopefully studs:

Brown
Rozier

Deadweight:
everyone else not drafted this year. Guys like DJ, Nader, Zizic still hold value.

[BitterJim]

It is his opinion

“I do wonder sometimes if Boston might overvalue some of the players they have compared to what the rest of the league sees in them. I think Marcus Smart might be starting to fall into that category. His name’s been in some talks previously, and they’ve been pretty careful about who they’d give him up for.”

I love his breaking news, his opinions, not so much.

Unless he has heard rumors of Ainge turning down a Noel for Smart trade because Ainge wanted more back or because he asked for Okafor instead.

Woj's opinions might hold more weight then most since he's privy to so much info.

You would think so, but he has a reputation for letting his biases heavily influence his opinion pieces.  Just look at anything he's ever written about Lebron - it's barely based in reality and mostly comes from how much Woj hates Lebron.  His personal biases come in a lot with other pieces, too.

And don't get me started about his relationships with certain teams and agents and the puff pieces that come from it.  His breaking news is top notch, but his opinion and speculation pieces are mostly crap