$26 million man

[Smitty77]

Has there been a more DISAPPOINTING free agent signing that Al Horford?  He has single-handedly cost us two games this year and has missed 10 games.

Tonight, he gets blocked and has a turnover within about 20 seconds to turn this game.  He was 0-3 in the fourth quarter!!

I am beyond frustrated.

He is NOT an Alpha male!!!

Smitty77

[GreenGoggles]

We didn't sign him to be a #1, we signed him as he fits our system very well. It's just that only signing him doesn't move the needle much.

I'd rather we be focusing on player development than hanging around the 4 seed all year. Jaylen has shown given time he can really play, he should be getting 25 minutes a game easily.

[Ilikesports17]

Al is a stud. He does everything well and he makes the team so much better.

However, when the game slows down and it becomes about grabbing tough rebounds, getting individual defensive stops, and creating and making your own shots, Al Horford is not very good.

[PhoSita]

If you're disappointed in what the Celts have gotten from Al Horford, you must not have looked very close at what he'd done before he came to Boston.  He's picked up right where he left off in Atlanta.

.175 WS per 48
117 / 105 ORTG / DRTG
17 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 2.7 blocks per 36 minutes
48 / 36 / 82 shooting


He's an elite big man with a well rounded skillset.

He's not a big time rebounder nor a go-to scorer.

He's not the problem.

[jpotter33]

He absolutely lost us this game along with AB and Brad.

However, he's been much, much better the majority of the time, and he's been our best player for most of the year I'd say. I think this is overreacting a bit, even if he did cost us this game.

[CelticSooner]

If you're disappointed in what the Celts have gotten from Al Horford, you must not have looked very close at what he'd done before he came to Boston.  He's picked up right where he left off in Atlanta.

.175 WS per 48
117 / 105 ORTG / DRTG
17 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 2.7 blocks per 36 minutes
48 / 36 / 82 shooting


He's an elite big man with a well rounded skillset.

He's not a big time rebounder nor a go-to scorer.

He's not the problem.

Yes. This what he is. He's supposed to be a cog in the wheel which he is. There's a reason the Hawks kept getting swept by CLE. They asked too much out of him.

[Smitty77]

If you're disappointed in what the Celts have gotten from Al Horford, you must not have looked very close at what he'd done before he came to Boston.  He's picked up right where he left off in Atlanta.

.175 WS per 48
117 / 105 ORTG / DRTG
17 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 2.7 blocks per 36 minutes
48 / 36 / 82 shooting


He's an elite big man with a well rounded skillset.

He's not a big time rebounder nor a go-to scorer.

He's not the problem.

I do NOT care what stats you throw up there.  You and I both (and EVERYONE else watching) saw him blow TWO freaking games in the last four.  He missed the layup to beat Houston and then tonight he had back to back bone-headed plays. 

I am NOT talking about what he does in the first 3 quarters.  When we are paying someone 26 million stinking dollars, I expect above average play in ALL four quarters!!  Am I asking too much here???  I think NOT!!!

Smitty77

[TrueFan]

The OP probably drank too much kool aid and thought Horford made us contenders.

My advice is come back down to reality. Horford is still a top 20 player or close to it but we are still just a nice team with him. We aren't contenders and we aren't going to put the league on notice with our lineup.

It's just a fun team that Ainge put together to pass the time. The focus should be on the development of Brown, Smart, Roz and then surrounding them with the Nets 2017 and 18 pick. That's when we will be competing in 5-6 years.

Patience.

[Csfan1984]

Well we knew it was an overpay but they wanted a good big man, which he is. Horford is more a third offense option. C's are asking him to do more than what he is capable. IT is a second option. Team still doesn't have a good first option.

[hpantazo]

Horford made a couple of bad plays down the stretch that cost us, sure, but he's been our best player this year.

It didnt help that Rozier was not in position to receive that pass, then Rozier didnt properly foul the guy with the ball on the next play, resulting in a 2 PT dunk by OKC. Bradley and Amir let Westbrook waltz to the hoop on the go-ahead basket. On top of it all, Brad Stevens kept the starters on the bench waaaaayyy to long in the 4th. He should have had them back in there much earlier.

This team is going through some growing pains, Rozier and Brown have been asked to play significant roles early on, and Smart is a key rotation guy. They are all too young and need to mesh better with Horford and Crowder and IT. It will take some time.

[spikelovetheCelts]

If you're disappointed in what the Celts have gotten from Al Horford, you must not have looked very close at what he'd done before he came to Boston.  He's picked up right where he left off in Atlanta.

.175 WS per 48
117 / 105 ORTG / DRTG
17 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 2.7 blocks per 36 minutes
48 / 36 / 82 shooting


He's an elite big man with a well rounded skillset.

He's not a big time rebounder nor a go-to scorer.

He's not the problem.

I do NOT care what stats you throw up there.  You and I both (and EVERYONE else watching) saw him blow TWO freaking games in the last four.  He missed the layup to beat Houston and then tonight he had back to back bone-headed plays. 

I am NOT talking about what he does in the first 3 quarters.  When we are paying someone 26 million stinking dollars, I expect above average play in ALL four quarters!!  Am I asking too much here???  I think NOT!!!

Smitty77

this is his first time being alpa. Paul Pierce had to miss a few to learn. He also was not signed to take the Shot. It is that person at the moment. Yes it sucks but it is a learning curve to hit shots at the buzzer. Robert Horry was laughed at in Houston but he kept shooting and he became clutch.

[Bobshot]

Horford is a very good player. He is not a great player. Not dominating. Not Russell or Bird or McHale. Millsap was the better player in Atlanta. He is overpaid, but that's the going rate in free agency. Wait until IT asks for the same.

Al can't do it all up front. He needs help, and so far Ainge has been reluctant to upgrade over Jerebko, Olynyk and Zeller. But the handwriting is on the wall.

[Roy H.]

I love Horford. He's a smart, productive player and is a good teammate / citizen. He's only overpaid if you ignore the market.

He's not a top-15 player, but he's really good.

[TrueFan]

I love Horford. He's a smart, productive player and is a good teammate / citizen. He's only overpaid if you ignore the market.

He's not a top-15 player, but he's really good.

Spot on. He's incredibly smart and versatile but he's not the top 10 player who people thought would make us world beaters.

[hpantazo]

I love Horford. He's a smart, productive player and is a good teammate / citizen. He's only overpaid if you ignore the market.

He's not a top-15 player, but he's really good.

Spot on. He's incredibly smart and versatile but he's not the top 10 player who people thought would make us world beaters.

Don't know why anyone thought he would make us world-beaters, he was never supposed to be that type of a player. He's excellent , and as Roy said, if you consider the market value, he is certainly not overpaid.