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Re: Do people realize we have won 7 of our last 10?
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2016, 06:29:42 PM »

Offline GratefulCs

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1 3 vs .500 or better Clubs says it all..

Until Ainge grabs his b@lls and trades for a Wing shooter and or a legit Post up big to help Horford it don't matter if you win 65 games, you ain't sniffing a ring anytime soon..

until you grab your b@lls and give us some options and trade proposals you might have for a wing shooter or a legit post up big to help horford, i aint giving up my crusade against your baseless Danny hate anytime soon..

I'm not a GM. Nobody knows who is trade bait or who might be up for trade. To speculate is a waste of everyone's time.
What I do know is, The Top Teir teams are built through trades and Veteran FA signs. A good example is Toronto.
honest question

Would you rather be in toronto's position longterm, or ours?
I trust Danny Ainge

Re: Do people realize we have won 7 of our last 10?
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2016, 06:37:25 PM »

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We're a really good 3rd tier team.  We should still win 55+ games.
OK, I am going to guess at this:

Tier 1:  Golden State, Cleveland  (68-75 Wins)
Tier 2:  San Antonio, LA Clips (60-67 Wins)
Tier 3:  Boston, Toronto, Houston, Etc. (52-59 Wins)

In this scenario, we are actually a below average Tier 3 team I guess.  And I will be stunned if we win 55 but we have looked much better the last 10 games.  Most of the wins have been against pretty weak teams but Indy was a nice win and I think the Knicks are better than people think (although Carmelo got ejected in the first period didn't he?).
I think that's fair.  Though I might even stick Golden State in a tier by themselves... in which case we might be a Tier 4 team.

I think we go
Tier 1 Golden State
Tier 2 Cleveland and San Antonio
Tier 3 Clippers
Tier 4 Oklahoma city if they still had Durant
Tier 5 76ers with no embiid restriction, healthy Simmons, Noel and Okafor off the team
Tier 6 2016 Kentucky Wildcats if all underclassman had returned
Tier 7 Boston Celtics
Tier 8: Marcus Smart
Tier 9: Trumps Cabinet
Tier 10: Public Events forum
Tier 11: John Oliver getting arrested for slandering Trump
Tier 12: Sequels
Tier 13: Weight Loss that is only water weight
Tier 14: Really old players like Baron Davis in the D league
Tier 15: New Orleans Pelicans
Tier 16: Chad ford
Tier 17: People in Barcelona asking you why you don't speak Catalan
Tier 18: People that said they would move to Canada but didn't
Tier 19: Vancouver Grizzlies
Tier 20: Thursday Night Football
Tier 21: Commercials for Fan Duel
Tier 22: Commercials for **** when two people end up in bath tubs in nature
Tier 23: 2 loss teams in CBS playoffs
Tier 24: When Jim O'brien got upset we traded Tony Battie
Tier 25: Robert Swift's comeback
Tier 26: Orlando magic
Tier 27: Patrick Ewing on the magic.
Tier 28: Blink 182 singing to teenagers in their mid 30's
Tier 29: Montreal Expos during the lockout
Tier 30: New England patriots running backs in fantasy

Hahahahaha, oh man. I had decided to take a break from posting out here. But, TP to you sir. If you ever find yourself in Portland, Maine DM me and I will buy your drinks for the evening.

Thank you! Likewise if you come to the Bay Area. For a moment I was thinking Portland in the Northwest which is on my to visit list!

Re: Do people realize we have won 7 of our last 10?
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2016, 07:04:39 PM »

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1 3 vs .500 or better Clubs says it all..

Until Ainge grabs his b@lls and trades for a Wing shooter and or a legit Post up big to help Horford it don't matter if you win 65 games, you ain't sniffing a ring anytime soon..

until you grab your b@lls and give us some options and trade proposals you might have for a wing shooter or a legit post up big to help horford, i aint giving up my crusade against your baseless Danny hate anytime soon..

I'm not a GM. Nobody knows who is trade bait or who might be up for trade. To speculate is a waste of everyone's time.
What I do know is, The Top Teir teams are built through trades and Veteran FA signs. A good example is Toronto.
what are you talking about?

Ainge signed Horford and traded for Crowder and Thomas.

Ainge has been one of the most prolific traders in the NBA the past 5 years and has signed Amir Johnson and Al Horford on the FA market in the past two years.

please make some logical arguments other than just blanket complaining because we arent true contenders yet.

We are in at least as good of a position as Toronto moving forward. Plus we have the same record vs 500and+ opponents.


Here is my ? to you with all sarcasm put aside.
The Big 3 era ended 4 seasons ago. Some would say the final 2 years of both Garnett and Pierce in Boston, both players were pretty much done.
That is a 6 year window. I'll give Ainge props for the Nets trade. My overall point is, this Team as constituted will not win a Ring anytime soon. How long do you wait?

Picks and waiting for a Durant to sign here or waiting on a pick to become the next Durant, Bird or Duncan is a waste of resources. This is why I say Ainge has some on this Board drinking the Kool - Aid. You have to TRADE to become great again.

Drafting the Smarts and Browns only delay the process. Most of the Top College Players enter the NBA way to early and the do not develop as they should.

Im not saying you Trade a top pick for a David Lee. Im saying you trade a Top pick for veteran talent and it does not have to be a Westbrook or Cousins type player...
2016: Lebron james
2015: Steph Curry
2014: Kawhi Leonard
2013: Lebron James
2012: Lebron James
2011: Dirk Nowitzki
2010: Kobe Bryant
2009: Kobe Bryant
2008: Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett
2007: Tim Duncan
2006: Dwayne Wade/Shaq
2005: Tim Duncan
2004: Chauncey Billups


When you trade a draft pick or an undeveloped guy for a veteran, you trade upside for garunteed production. It has some nasty results sometimes. Sometimes it leaves you with George Hill when you could have had Kawhi Leonard.

This Celtics team is very good. Al, Isaiah, Jae, Marcus, Avery is a very nice core but we need at least 1 more true star. You dont get that by trading picks unless that pick can be used to select a Ben Simmons or and Andrew Wiggins.

So to answer your question: how long do we wait? we dont.

you dont set a timer. This league is too hard to win, to set a day when you need to cash your chips in. You have to put yourself in the best position to acquire players than catapult you to contention. Ainge has done a terrific job acquiring value contributors which allow us to make the playoffs(this year we have 5th title odds via Vegas) and still maintain cap room to sign a bigtime FA. It happened last year with Al and this year we will be even better. While his Nets pick brilliance enables us to get a shot at the top end draft talent each year as well.

If Ainge rushes this and spins the Nets picks for some solid contributors that upside will be sacrificed and we will be left on the outside looking in with no cap space left and no real avenue to improve.

You cite Toronto as a model but theyve been rebuilding for twice as long as us and according to Vegas they arent even as good as us.

Re: Do people realize we have won 7 of our last 10?
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2016, 09:14:56 PM »

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Well, they don't look good tonite at home against the Pistons after 3 quarters. Detroit making easy shots in the lane while Celtics brick 3 after 3 after 3... Smart should be fined every time he shoots a 3. His forte is going to the basket. The same could be said tonite about some of the others. They aren't getting good shots because they aren't distributing. IT has most of the points, which tells you something. So far, Stevens hasn't done anything to change the pattern.

Pass the ball for the best shot. Get off the 3P line.

Re: Do people realize we have won 7 of our last 10?
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2016, 10:38:57 PM »

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Looks like Detroit read GreenWarrior's post on how to play the Celtics.