Spurs (12-3) at Celtics (9-6) Game #16 11/25/16

[jpotter33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

[hodgy03038]

Wish we had a bench player like David Lee 15pts & 12 rebounds. Hey Tyler what were your stats?

[kozlodoev]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

I don't always hit home dingers, but when I do, they all ding. I've never liked complaining about the refs, either.

[hwangjini_1]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

I don't always hit home dingers, but when I do, they all ding. I've never liked complaining about the refs, either.

ding? as opposed to ping? or sing? or ring? or king? or fling? or sling? or wing? 

[jpotter33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

I don't always hit home dingers, but when I do, they all ding. I've never liked complaining about the refs, either.

I think there's a difference between totally blaming the game on the refs and saying they called a bad game, which partly affected the outcome. I'm not sure that anyone here totally blamed the refs for that loss, or at least I for sure didn't, but it's also clear that they had a bad time calling the game and surely affected the result, e.g. the major foul and free throw disparities.

Hell, the NBA admits that their refs can and will make mistakes, so why can't fans call them out when they do? I know there will be times where you see things through green glasses (myself included), but there are certainly games, like tonight, where the officiating is objectively bad. I don't see a problem with calling out the refs when they're bad, because they certainly can and do affect the outcomes of certain games with inconsistent officiating.

[kozlodoev]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

I don't always hit home dingers, but when I do, they all ding. I've never liked complaining about the refs, either.

I think there's a difference between totally blaming the game on the refs and saying they called a bad game, which partly affected the outcome. I'm not sure that anyone here totally blamed the refs for that loss, or at least I for sure didn't, but it's also clear that they had a bad time calling the game and surely affected the result, e.g. the major foul and free throw disparities.

Hell, the NBA admits that their refs can and will make mistakes, so why can't fans call them out when they do? I know there will be times where you see things through green glasses (myself included), but there are certainly games, like tonight, where the officiating is objectively bad. I don't see a problem with calling out the refs when they're bad, because they certainly can and do affect the outcomes of certain games with inconsistent officiating.

I don't have problems calling the officials bad, but I want to be the team that will win every game even if the opponent's ball boys lined up as refs.

[jpotter33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

I don't always hit home dingers, but when I do, they all ding. I've never liked complaining about the refs, either.

I think there's a difference between totally blaming the game on the refs and saying they called a bad game, which partly affected the outcome. I'm not sure that anyone here totally blamed the refs for that loss, or at least I for sure didn't, but it's also clear that they had a bad time calling the game and surely affected the result, e.g. the major foul and free throw disparities.

Hell, the NBA admits that their refs can and will make mistakes, so why can't fans call them out when they do? I know there will be times where you see things through green glasses (myself included), but there are certainly games, like tonight, where the officiating is objectively bad. I don't see a problem with calling out the refs when they're bad, because they certainly can and do affect the outcomes of certain games with inconsistent officiating.

I don't have problems calling the officials bad, but I want to be the team that will win every game even if the opponent's ball boys lined up as refs.

Sure, but we're certainly not that team. We're just not that skilled or talented, and we rely on a consistent whistle, especially with our defensive intensity. It just seems that many times we get screwed due to our defensive intensity where others get away with it. Chicago was another team where I thought this was true, too.

[LarBrd33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

Ah, yes, another example of consensus opinion being wrong and LarBrd33's contrarian opinion being correct, eh? That's similar to Smart not improving at all since being drafted and the fact that the Nets would've won 35-40 games last year were it not for them being absolutely decimated by injuries, no?

All hail the poster who only hits home dingers!  You're, a special breed,  Lar.

Consensus opinion of who?  Sore loser fans or the refs who called the game?  Cuz it seems to me the consensus amongst the refs were that those calls were perfectly fine.   Pretty sure there's a legion of Spurs fans who aren't losing sleep over that game's reffing either.

I have no problem with how that game was called.   We played them tough.  They are a better team.  We lost.  It's fine.  It's not the refs fault that we left some players wide open down the stretch.  The refs didn't make us miss shots.  The refs didn't cause them to hit clutch shots.  Whatever.

[Vermont Green]

The refs missed some calls that hurt us but we did not outplay the Spurs today and therefore did not deserve to win the game.

And who the he11 is Davis Bertans?  Bertans, Lee, and Mills are who killed us today.  Not sure how that happens.

We remain weak up front.  Horford is fine but not good enough to carry the team.  Amir, Olynyk, Zeller did nothing today.  At key points in the game we had to play Jerebko at PF and surprise surprise, we got out rebounded and guys like David Lee and Davis Bertans have big games.  I think Mills was just hot.  It happens.  But SA executed and got him shots.

I enjoyed the game.  Was a good indication of exactly where we currently are at as a team.

[LarBrd33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

I think its certainly possible that you can get the short end of the stick in any given game.

90% of the time it all evens out in the end.

Especially when you consider no one in this game is really a recipient of "superstar calls"

I'm not saying refs are perfect.  They'll miss calls from time to time.  But it's not "90%" of the time it evens out... it's 100% of the time.   Over the course of the NBA season, you'll win as many bad calls as you lose.   You'll win as many games as a result of the refs as you'll lose.  It's just part of the game.  Out of principle, I refuse to ever blame a loss on the refs, because once you start doing that, you need to also blame wins on refs otherwise you're a hypocrite.    I'd rather not participate in that.   Part of this game is being prepared for the fact that refs are humans and there is going to be some amount of human error.   You can never blame refs for the outcome of a game.  It's on the team.

That and more often than not the "bad calls" people use up as shining examples of a "badly called game" aren't actually bad calls.   Easy to get worked up, especially as a celtic fan, when our broadcast team notoriously slants homer.  I LOVE Tommy, but he's far from an unbiased announcer.   He continues the tradition of Johnny Most where we're the good guys, they are the bad guys, and the refs are out to get us.  Tommy famously freaks out about the refs and keeps his mouth shut when a bad call goes our way.   Not surprising that Celtic fans are more apt to cry about refs when they spend the entire game listening to a homer announcer scream about the refs.  It is what it is.  Part of our basketball culture.   

Guess how many comments there are about the refs in the game thread on the Spurs subreddit?  Literally zero.    Want to know what the #1 upvoted comment is?

"Mannnn I cannot stand these Celtics commentators!!"

I'm not surprised:  https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/5eurju/game_thread_the_san_antonio_spurs_123_vs_the/

[Ogaju]

Can't blame the refs.  This team as currently constructed can't compete for a title.  The Spurs can.

This has nothing to do with the game that was just played.

We play this team in the playoffs we get swept - with maybe one game being close.

great, i'd love to be in the NBA Finals!

lol TP

[jpotter33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

I think its certainly possible that you can get the short end of the stick in any given game.

90% of the time it all evens out in the end.

Especially when you consider no one in this game is really a recipient of "superstar calls"

I'm not saying refs are perfect.  They'll miss calls from time to time.  But it's not "90%" of the time it evens out... it's 100% of the time.   Over the course of the NBA season, you'll win as many bad calls as you lose.   You'll win as many games as a result of the refs as you'll lose.  It's just part of the game.  Out of principle, I refuse to ever blame a loss on the refs, because once you start doing that, you need to also blame wins on refs otherwise you're a hypocrite.    I'd rather not participate in that.   Part of this game is being prepared for the fact that refs are humans and there is going to be some amount of human error.   You can never blame refs for the outcome of a game.  It's on the team.

That and more often than not the "bad calls" people use up as shining examples of a "badly called game" aren't actually bad calls.   Easy to get worked up, especially as a celtic fan, when our broadcast team notoriously slants homer.  I LOVE Tommy, but he's far from an unbiased announcer.   He continues the tradition of Johnny Most where we're the good guys, they are the bad guys, and the refs are out to get us.  Tommy famously freaks out about the refs and keeps his mouth shut when a bad call goes our way.   Not surprising that Celtic fans are more apt to cry about refs when they spend the entire game listening to a homer announcer scream about the refs.  It is what it is.  Part of our basketball culture.

Yeah, I'm sure the Raptors agree with that sentiment. 

The fact that you actually believe something like this is hilarious. And it further shows that you have a truly faulty conception of the real-world game of basketball. This is not fantasy basketball. You can't quantify every single thing down to numbers and stats, and officials are imperfect and do have biases that do come into play at times, such as the dreaded star calls that plague our league. They will mess up, and, no, things do not always come out even in the end. This is the real world, not fantasy land or Newton's third law.

How else do you explain that the Raptors have had numerous games in the last several seasons where the refs legitimately cost them the game in bad calls? Let me guess - the refs must have actually won them the same amount of games, since everything comes out to "100%" right?!

[LarBrd33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

I think its certainly possible that you can get the short end of the stick in any given game.

90% of the time it all evens out in the end.

Especially when you consider no one in this game is really a recipient of "superstar calls"

I'm not saying refs are perfect.  They'll miss calls from time to time.  But it's not "90%" of the time it evens out... it's 100% of the time.   Over the course of the NBA season, you'll win as many bad calls as you lose.   You'll win as many games as a result of the refs as you'll lose.  It's just part of the game.  Out of principle, I refuse to ever blame a loss on the refs, because once you start doing that, you need to also blame wins on refs otherwise you're a hypocrite.    I'd rather not participate in that.   Part of this game is being prepared for the fact that refs are humans and there is going to be some amount of human error.   You can never blame refs for the outcome of a game.  It's on the team.

That and more often than not the "bad calls" people use up as shining examples of a "badly called game" aren't actually bad calls.   Easy to get worked up, especially as a celtic fan, when our broadcast team notoriously slants homer.  I LOVE Tommy, but he's far from an unbiased announcer.   He continues the tradition of Johnny Most where we're the good guys, they are the bad guys, and the refs are out to get us.  Tommy famously freaks out about the refs and keeps his mouth shut when a bad call goes our way.   Not surprising that Celtic fans are more apt to cry about refs when they spend the entire game listening to a homer announcer scream about the refs.  It is what it is.  Part of our basketball culture.

Yeah, I'm sure the Raptors agree with that sentiment. 

The fact that you actually believe something like this is hilarious. And it further shows that you have a truly faulty conception of the real-world game of basketball. This is not fantasy basketball.

That's so completely offbase and bizarre.  What does fantasy basketball have to do with anything, Potter?

Fine.  I'll let you pretend the refs cost us this game if you accept that in 2008, the NBA fixed the playoffs so that we'd beat Atlanta and the Cavs to set up a Lakers/Celtics money-making super match-up.  Whatever.  Let's give back the 2008 Title since we don't deserve it.  Refs gifted that championship to us.  Just tons of bad calls lead to us magically ending up in the FInals against the Lakers.  Whole thing is WWE.   We can take this win, but give away the Pistons and Wolves wins based on arbitrary "bad calls" that those fanbases whined about. 

Nonsense.  Just total nonsense.   We lost this game.  It is what it is.

[green_bballers13]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

TP. I completely agree with you Lar. Going into this game, I would say that we would be lucky to win it, even at home, and even with all of our starters healthy.

San Antonio=the New England Patriots of basketball. No matter what situation that they are in, you expect them to be competitive and you expect them to be relevant in the playoffs.

[LarBrd33]

We took 10 more three pointers than them and were outrebounded by 10.  Most fouls happen when you attack the paint and mix it up inside.  Spurs are much bigger than us.  We settled for long range bombs and long jumpers that kept us out of the paint and limited our potential to draw fouls.  That's who our team is.  Don't whine about the foul disparity. Spurs are a better team. We should be proud we kept it close against one of the few real contenders in the league.  Nice game.  We still look like a solid 55 win team this year.

We also took 10 more overall shots than them, too, so in fact both teams took 57 two-pointers with them getting 9 more fouls. So your point isn't applicable here, and you just pretty much proved the point that they had an unfair shake on the fouls. Nice try, though. 

shots where fouls are called do not count as attempts, so San Antonio took at least a handful more 2 pointers.

yup

Whining about refs is the most pathetic thing fans do.  There's so many games you could claim we won because of favoritism from the refs.  Nobody ever talks about that.   

I don't see the point in being a sore loser.  San Antonio outplayed us.  They are a better team.  It is what it is.    Nice game.

TP. I completely agree with you Lar. Going into this game, I would say that we would be lucky to win it, even at home, and even with all of our starters healthy.

San Antonio=the New England Patriots of basketball. No matter what situation that they are in, you expect them to be competitive and you expect them to be relevant in the playoffs.

I mean they won 67 games last year and are 13-3 so far this season.  They actually were able to dominate the Golden State Globetrotters on opening night.  They are a really really good team.  They are clearly a better team than us, but they only beat us by 6 points tonight.  We kept it close.  Be proud that we kept it close.  Any whining about the refs is poor sportsmanship.