2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (We Did It Guys! Fireworks!!!)

[Neurotic Guy]

So as the local Celtics affiliate/flagship, can't CSN find a couple of high-energy hot-shot media guys to run down to the station and host a live broadcast to update Celtics Nation about what is happening, what is speculated, what nuanced possibilities abound, in this saga.  To Boston Celtics fans, this is the news equivalent of a lunar landing (OK, but you get my point).  There should be coverage, speculation and reporters actively on top of this situation. Instead, CSN is running (for the 8th time) the Draft Lottery.    For crying out loud, there has to be a Boston host who would love to be broadcasting this right now.

[liam]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

[danglertx]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

Actually, they haven't taken the story down or retracted it.  They did add that his agent is saying he hasn't decided.  That is like reporting that a guy murdered someone and later adding his lawyer says he is innocent.  I think they are sticking by their story and reporting what the agent is saying.  Both can be true.

[jpotter33]

You know what... The more I think about it...the more a sign and trade could be in order

Hayward says sorry Jazz I will choose Boston but lets workout a sign and trade. Help you guys out

To Jazz: Crowder, AB, KO (sign and trade)
To Celtics: Hayward (sign and trade), Tony Bradley

Good?

Tony Bradley
Horford
Hayward
Smart
AB

Zizic/Yabu
Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Celts would need to sign a FA to come off the bench

I forgot all about Utah liking KO previously, too. A sign and trade would actually make a ton of sense for both sides at this point.

Can anyone answer the question I had earlier about whether or not you can attach other contracts to a sign and trade deal?

For example, could something like this go down:

Boston: Hayward S&T, Favors

Utah: KO S&T, Crowder, and Bradley

That deal would actually be great for both sides rather than Utah losing him for nothing.

[liam]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

Actually, they haven't taken the story down or retracted it.  They did add that his agent is saying he hasn't decided.  That is like reporting that a guy murdered someone and later adding his lawyer says he is innocent.  I think they are sticking by their story and reporting what the agent is saying.  Both can be true.

I guess it's just a contradiction on their "Headline"

"Sources: Hayward to Celts; Agent: No call yet
Gordon Hayward plans to sign with the Celtics, sources tell ESPN's Chris Haynes. But Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, tells ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that no decision has been made."

[danglertx]

And the only way I see a sign and trade even being an option is if the Celtics are signing a free agent with cap space and trying to land GH with a trade.  None of these deals have been signed.  Maybe they went back to Griffin and are saying, hey they want to fill Chris Paul's money with Gallinari, why don't you reconsider us since we are getting Hayward in a S&T. 

Or I could be wrong.

Actually I need to edit that.  There is a way they could spend less cap space if they are going over the cap because salaries don't have to match exactly.  With a salary as large as this I could see it saving them a player or two.    It might be more efficient to just cut a guy though or sign KO if you are doing a S&T then send out salary.   The more I think about it, it could get really complicated as to which is better, cutting guys to fit him into the salary cap, or signing guys to get over the cap and trading lesser salary out.

[kraidstar]

So as the local Celtics affiliate/flagship, can't CSN find a couple of high-energy hot-shot media guys to run down to the station and host a live broadcast to update Celtics Nation about what is happening, what is speculated, what nuanced possibilities abound, in this saga.  To Boston Celtics fans, this is the news equivalent of a lunar landing (OK, but you get my point).  There should be coverage, speculation and reporters actively on top of this situation. Instead, CSN is running (for the 8th time) the Draft Lottery.    For crying out loud, there has to be a Boston host who would love to be broadcasting this right now.

Yeah it is pretty strange. They should be all over this. Major journalistic fail.

[danglertx]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

Actually, they haven't taken the story down or retracted it.  They did add that his agent is saying he hasn't decided.  That is like reporting that a guy murdered someone and later adding his lawyer says he is innocent.  I think they are sticking by their story and reporting what the agent is saying.  Both can be true.

I guess it's just a contradiction on their "Headline"

"Sources: Hayward to Celts; Agent: No call yet
Gordon Hayward plans to sign with the Celtics, sources tell ESPN's Chris Haynes. But Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, tells ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that no decision has been made."

I see how you could think it is a contradiction but it isn't.  They are basically saying, the agent is lying but we need to add this to our report. 

However, their sources could be wrong and the agent lying too.  ANYTHING IS POSSSSIIBBBBBLEEE!

[jambr380]

So as the local Celtics affiliate/flagship, can't CSN find a couple of high-energy hot-shot media guys to run down to the station and host a live broadcast to update Celtics Nation about what is happening, what is speculated, what nuanced possibilities abound, in this saga.  To Boston Celtics fans, this is the news equivalent of a lunar landing (OK, but you get my point).  There should be coverage, speculation and reporters actively on top of this situation. Instead, CSN is running (for the 8th time) the Draft Lottery.    For crying out loud, there has to be a Boston host who would love to be broadcasting this right now.

TP - I totally agree. I am up in New England visiting for the summer and only have access to NESN, CSN, ESPN1, and ESPN2 (no ESPNNews or NBAtv). Since the supposed news broke earlier this afternoon, I have not seen one single snippet of anything on any of the networks I listed. It was all Wimbledon and now baseball on ESPN. This is crazy - how can nobody be reporting on this on television??

[celticinorlando]

This is going to bleed into tomorrow isn't It?

[liam]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

Actually, they haven't taken the story down or retracted it.  They did add that his agent is saying he hasn't decided.  That is like reporting that a guy murdered someone and later adding his lawyer says he is innocent.  I think they are sticking by their story and reporting what the agent is saying.  Both can be true.

I guess it's just a contradiction on their "Headline"

"Sources: Hayward to Celts; Agent: No call yet
Gordon Hayward plans to sign with the Celtics, sources tell ESPN's Chris Haynes. But Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, tells ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that no decision has been made."

I see how you could think it is a contradiction but it isn't.  They are basically saying, the agent is lying but we need to add this to our report. 

However, their sources could be wrong and the agent lying too.  ANYTHING IS POSSSSIIBBBBBLEEE!

They have Haynes saying it's a done deal and Wojo and MB saying it's not. The Headline is: Gordon Hayward plans to sign with Celtics, sources say, but agent says no decision made...

[Tr1boy]

You know what... The more I think about it...the more a sign and trade could be in order

Hayward says sorry Jazz I will choose Boston but lets workout a sign and trade. Help you guys out

To Jazz: Crowder, AB, KO (sign and trade)
To Celtics: Hayward (sign and trade), Tony Bradley

Good?

Tony Bradley
Horford
Hayward
Smart
AB

Zizic/Yabu
Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Celts would need to sign a FA to come off the bench

I forgot all about Utah liking KO previously, too. A sign and trade would actually make a ton of sense for both sides at this point.

Can anyone answer the question I had earlier about whether or not you can attach other contracts to a sign and trade deal?

For example, could something like this go down:

Boston: Hayward S&T, Favors

Utah: KO S&T, Crowder, and Bradley

That deal would actually be great for both sides rather than Utah losing him for nothing.

I hope someone can answer also

This way Hayward can make his 5 years max max.... Danny doesnt need to make another transaction or two, to trade Crowder etc

Im not a huge fan of Favors.. lazy player

Tony Bradley is a nice looking young talent. Brings a mature game for his age

[Tr1boy]

ESPN reporting Hawyard to Celtics...  Welcome to Boston Gordon Hayward!!!

someone confirm.

Trolling confirmed...

to be fair to him, ESPN has never taken down the original story that says Hayward to boston.

Yes they have it has said "Agent"No Call Yet" for hours.

Actually, they haven't taken the story down or retracted it.  They did add that his agent is saying he hasn't decided.  That is like reporting that a guy murdered someone and later adding his lawyer says he is innocent.  I think they are sticking by their story and reporting what the agent is saying.  Both can be true.

I guess it's just a contradiction on their "Headline"

"Sources: Hayward to Celts; Agent: No call yet
Gordon Hayward plans to sign with the Celtics, sources tell ESPN's Chris Haynes. But Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, tells ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that no decision has been made."

Time for Hayward to fire Mark 

[Surferdad]

So as the local Celtics affiliate/flagship, can't CSN find a couple of high-energy hot-shot media guys to run down to the station and host a live broadcast to update Celtics Nation about what is happening, what is speculated, what nuanced possibilities abound, in this saga.  To Boston Celtics fans, this is the news equivalent of a lunar landing (OK, but you get my point).  There should be coverage, speculation and reporters actively on top of this situation. Instead, CSN is running (for the 8th time) the Draft Lottery.    For crying out loud, there has to be a Boston host who would love to be broadcasting this right now.

When the leak broke, I ran down to the man-cave and flipped on NBA TV which had some information, but when I went over to CSN they were running the Felger & Mazz show all afternoon.  I mean, really?  This kind of breaking news required a Special Celtics-Live talk show.

[Sketch5]

You know what... The more I think about it...the more a sign and trade could be in order

Hayward says sorry Jazz I will choose Boston but lets workout a sign and trade. Help you guys out

To Jazz: Crowder, AB, KO (sign and trade)
To Celtics: Hayward (sign and trade), Tony Bradley

Good?

Tony Bradley
Horford
Hayward
Smart
AB

Zizic/Yabu
Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Celts would need to sign a FA to come off the bench

Ingles? I mean we need a big, but he would make sense too to bring Hayward to Boston and make their wives happy. And it would give a vet off the bench which Boston is going to need.