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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1695 on: July 04, 2017, 05:53:55 PM »

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Some of you are acting like self entitled babies.  Go get a hobby.

Why do you have cltc in your username? You aren't a celtic at all. You have been just spreading fake news and irritating people from the beginning. What is your problem man?

I'm more of a Celtic than you know buddy ;)

Aren't you the one that posted that he was going to Miami? You are fake buddy.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1696 on: July 04, 2017, 05:54:43 PM »

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1697 on: July 04, 2017, 05:55:36 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1698 on: July 04, 2017, 05:56:43 PM »

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Some of you are acting like self entitled babies.  Go get a hobby.

Why do you have cltc in your username? You aren't a celtic at all. You have been just spreading fake news and irritating people from the beginning. What is your problem man?

I'm more of a Celtic than you know buddy ;)

No...You are a troll

well that escalated quickly! lol
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1699 on: July 04, 2017, 05:57:12 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

We could use any extra money to fill out the roster after we get rid of the players we need to move in order to sign Hayward. We can't just fill out the roster with our second round draft picks and hope to compete.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1700 on: July 04, 2017, 05:57:34 PM »

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Yeah I'm starting to get a feeling we won't find out by tomorrow.

Sigh.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1701 on: July 04, 2017, 05:58:28 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

We could use any extra money to fill out the roster after we get rid of the players we need to move in order to sign Hayward. We can't just fill out the roster with our second round draft picks and hope to compete.

Resign KO?

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1702 on: July 04, 2017, 05:59:50 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

We could use any extra money to fill out the roster after we get rid of the players we need to move in order to sign Hayward. We can't just fill out the roster with our second round draft picks and hope to compete.

Resign KO?

Please no
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« Reply #1703 on: July 04, 2017, 05:59:50 PM »

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1704 on: July 04, 2017, 06:00:29 PM »

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Yeah I'm starting to get a feeling we won't find out by tomorrow.

Sigh.

same here...

this gonna loom for a while...
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1705 on: July 04, 2017, 06:02:06 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

That could have been one of the qualifiers for a Hayward move to Boston - a commitment this offseason to IT.  It would also make sense for the Cs as it would put them both on the same schedule for contracts.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1706 on: July 04, 2017, 06:02:43 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

We could use any extra money to fill out the roster after we get rid of the players we need to move in order to sign Hayward. We can't just fill out the roster with our second round draft picks and hope to compete.

I get the general concept. But if the sign and trade involved Crowder or Bradley, if rather keep them while clearing just enough of our crappy players to sign Hayward. Then we could trade Crowder or Bradley or both for a little help at PF. That is unless we are sign and trading for Jam Green.

The free agent pfs out there are underwhelming to me.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1707 on: July 04, 2017, 06:03:30 PM »

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Fans on a Jazz forum believe a sign and trade is in the works to make the money work.
Might be true but some of those delusional fans think it involves Brown and or the Nets pick lol. If anyone in that forum is reading this please tell your folks to keep dreaming.
Actually this (not Brown or Nets pick) is the only thing that makes sense enough to get everything righ.t .  Cs were chosen. Utah made a last ditch effort to salvage something by offering an S&T... word gets out it's going Boston's way as the S&T gets some life from Boston's side.  This delays the process as the negotiation plays out.   Hope this is what's happened.

I mean, we do need a power forward, and they have had Favors on the market before. I like his fit here.

Would there be some advantage by doing those deals together rather than separately?

Well, Crowder and AB combined make $3.5M more than Favors next year...so there is that. If we wanted Favors and waited to make the deal until after signing Hayward, we wouldn't be able to sign him to the full max.

Still, Favors only has one year remaining on his contract - there have to be better options out there than an expiring for AB/Crowder/picks.

Actually, that would work out really well for us salary-wise. If the deal was something like Hayward S&T + Favors for AB, Crowder, and say something like the Clippers or Memphis picks, then I *believe* we could then get away with adding Favors and giving Hayward a max contract without losing any other player like Smart or Rozier.

I believe the numbers work out really well for us here, but I'm not sure of the legality of adding players to a S&T deal like this. Can anyone more knowledgeable comment on this?
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1708 on: July 04, 2017, 06:04:39 PM »

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What would be the benefit of a sign and trade for Hayward? Renegotiating IT? Because there aren't exactly any quality players left to use that extra money we would save.

We could use any extra money to fill out the roster after we get rid of the players we need to move in order to sign Hayward. We can't just fill out the roster with our second round draft picks and hope to compete.

I get the general concept. But if the sign and trade involved Crowder or Bradley, if rather keep them while clearing just enough of our crappy players to sign Hayward. Then we could trade Crowder or Bradley or both for a little help at PF. That is unless we are sign and trading for Jam Green.

The free agent pfs out there are underwhelming to me.

Well, with or without a sign and trade, we have to move at least one of AB or Crowder.  We can't use one of them to take back a player other than Hayward unless he's on a rookie deal or something, because we need the cap space to sign Hayward.

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« Reply #1709 on: July 04, 2017, 06:04:56 PM »

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Yeah I'm starting to get a feeling we won't find out by tomorrow.

Sigh.

And then tomorrow we will say "We won't find out until tomorrow." At least we get to see 7/11 getting buckets from 7-11 tomorrow for sure :)
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