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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1635 on: July 04, 2017, 05:02:25 PM »

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https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/882337379763208192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Futah-jazz

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Any word on when a decision will be made

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may not be until tomorrow

Ugh, that would be absolutely terrible if he drags this thing out until tomorrow.
This is ridiculous especially after the leaks makes it even worse. He would have let it be decided once it was out that he's going to the Celtics. This all points to him going back to Utah imo
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1636 on: July 04, 2017, 05:03:41 PM »

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Haywards not coming. He's being to hesitant. If he was serious enough to sign with Boston it would of already happened. Cant go buy promises on the phone. He gets upset cause facts come out before he wants them to now he's  gonna back pedal and feel bad cause Utah went n got him Rubio. He feels guilty and now he's definitely changes his mind. His heart wasnt with Boston all the way. He made a decision n backed out. Hes going back to Utah.

I say start Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum next to Isaiah, Bradley n Horford. If that dont work out we got 3 nice picks next year. This Hayward guy came half heartedly. Not sure if it was a go to begin with...

you could be right

he would get less money, have to move across the country, crappier weather..... no Gobert to erase his defensive mistake

BUT if he truly wants to win and have a chance to reach the finals,  the choice is obvious

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1637 on: July 04, 2017, 05:03:54 PM »

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starting to feel like the DeAndre decision :(, is the Jazz FO locking Hayward up like Doc and CP3 locking DeAndre up in a hotel? :(

Where's Dan Aykroyd when you need him?!?

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1638 on: July 04, 2017, 05:04:16 PM »

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Unless Ainge is aaking them to hold up because of a sign and trade...Not sure what this proves dragging this out.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1639 on: July 04, 2017, 05:05:07 PM »

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Qn to be remember Kevin love or Kevin Durant?

Those were brutal losses when they happened. This one would rank up there

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1640 on: July 04, 2017, 05:05:10 PM »

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The only thing disappointing is humans in general.

Assuming, predicting, and now bashing.

I really have come to terms with being a misanthropist.

99% of the things said in here and other forums like Realgm would never be said to ones face or he would either look at you like you are an idiot or deck you in the face.

Instead of leaving this alone, people want to speculate, some are worse than the scum reporters that initially broke this news.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1641 on: July 04, 2017, 05:05:10 PM »

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KD had to wait for GSW to sign all there free agents before he could sign a reduced rate contract and that's already all done. The Celtics have to wait until every free agent is signed...

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1642 on: July 04, 2017, 05:05:10 PM »

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Is there any chance GH told Boston he was signing with them and Ainge asked him to keep it quite for a few hours or a day to work out the best possible trade.  Then it leaks out from GH's camp and they are trying to delay it so the C's have leverage.

No. Cooper Ainge tweeted a shamrock emoji (which has since been deleted) shortly after the report. As did Walter. They would certainly have known of a gag order from Danny. I truly believe GH hasn't made a decision and the ESPN reporter jumped the gun and sent the tweet without cross checking his source.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1643 on: July 04, 2017, 05:05:26 PM »

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The term "re-evaluate" really bothers me. Why use that word? If he hadn't made up his mind as the agent claims, it should be "evaluate," not "re-evaluate." That makes it sound like he is upset the Celtics leaked something prematurely.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1644 on: July 04, 2017, 05:06:06 PM »

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Relax people. It's going to be good either way:

1) We get Hayward for four years, transitioning from quality NBA team to contender.

2) We whiff on Hayward, so then we can reallocate the $30-$35 year over four years to other productive players. 7-11 and hopefully Zizic likely get more playing time next year. The Celtics still make the playoffs with a younger team in 2017.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1645 on: July 04, 2017, 05:07:35 PM »

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The term "re-evaluate" really bothers me. Why use that word? If he hadn't made up his mind as the agent claims, it should be "evaluate," not "re-evaluate." That makes it sound like he is upset the Celtics leaked something prematurely.

Exactly

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1646 on: July 04, 2017, 05:07:42 PM »

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Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

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Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.
I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.
Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.
Yeah, it's frustrating for us but if it's information Hayward doesn't want public yet, that frustration isn't on him its on the reporters who are putting this stuff out there.
The frustration is still directed at him and he has the ability to stem it.


Not his fault but he knows that the longer he drags this out the worse it is for his image and reputation.

Agreed. If he's really not resigning in Utah then's he's ripping their hearts out, giving them a glimmer of hope, just to rip out their hearts again. That's brutal and unnecessary. The only way this salvages his rep is if he stays.

Now, I'm not saying that's what I think is happening. But I don't understand the thought process that walking it back and trying to save the announcement to do on his own terms is logical or a good PR move.

I think after the LeBron "Decision" fiasco - and the ugliness that followed it - free agents are very careful about how they handle these things.

It's gotta be hard breaking news to a fanbase/organization who you've gotten so close to. Nowadays you see so many guys taking out full-page ads in the local newspapers etc to say thanks. Most of them probably want to soften the blow if they can by whatever means necessary.

So I can see how this could be a really difficult situation for Hayward if he is indeed leaving Utah.

I get that. But how does him denying reports that he's leaving only to announce the same news tomorrow soften the blow for Utah fans?

It sucks his intended announcement was scooped, but this is not how to get out in front of it.

He probably had some sort of plan for breaking the news and then his camp panicked when it was announced early.

If the reports that he has chosen the C's are true then I agree this probably wasn't the best way to handle it in regards to the Jazz fans and organization - but he's not a PR expert - or maybe his agent is just giving dubious advice... unfortunately all we can do is speculate right now  :P

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1647 on: July 04, 2017, 05:07:50 PM »

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The only thing disappointing is humans in general.

Assuming, predicting, and now bashing.

I really have come to terms with being a misanthropist.

99% of the things said in here and other forums like Realgm would never be said to ones face or he would either look at you like you are an idiot or deck you in the face.

Instead of leaving this alone, people want to speculate, some are worse than the scum reporters that initially broke this news.
Sick.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1648 on: July 04, 2017, 05:09:00 PM »

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Really looking bad for now. Could be Hayward is just waiting for things to settle down a bit then announce. Just to make it look like he really hadn't made a decision, when he obviously had.

I'd say he's going back to Utah at this point..

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1649 on: July 04, 2017, 05:10:01 PM »

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The only thing disappointing is humans in general.

Assuming, predicting, and now bashing.

I really have come to terms with being a misanthropist.

99% of the things said in here and other forums like Realgm would never be said to ones face or he would either look at you like you are an idiot or deck you in the face.

Instead of leaving this alone, people want to speculate, some are worse than the scum reporters that initially broke this news.

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