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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1620 on: July 04, 2017, 04:54:01 PM »

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Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

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Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.
I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.
Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.

This is the big one, imo. The fanbases are whatever, but I think this is really frustrating the rest of the parties involved in free agency who are all waiting on his decision.
I don't get that at all. Why is Hayward not allowed to take, like, 3 hours and make the announcement the way he wants to? It's his life.

There's already been reliable reports that other free agents, agents, and teams are frustrated with this stalling by the Hayward camp.

But he's had 4 days now to make this decision. I think people don't think he really has the status of a KD/Lebron type to drag it out this long. Even KD's decision came earlier than this one by about 5 hours so far on the fourth day.
What do you mean "this long"? He met with the Jazz yesterday. I don't even think it's been a full day since that meeting ended.

It's been four days since free agency started, and he's known for weeks which teams he'd be meeting with, let alone the months or years that he's known he'd opt out.

Like I said, KD met with several more teams and even had two meetings with OKC, yet he decided more quickly than Hayward being a much bigger overall star.

I just think that Hayward's overall status in the league is playing a part in this. Yes, he's an All-Star and great player, but he's not a KD or Lebron. I doubt they'd be receiving the same amount of scrutiny as Hayward is right now for holding up free agency.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1621 on: July 04, 2017, 04:55:08 PM »

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It's a theory, but other most GM's aren't stupid. If Ainge is on the phone with them talking salary dump mid-debacle, they will put 2+2 together.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1622 on: July 04, 2017, 04:56:19 PM »

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Can the Celtics put a deadline on this?

You have one hour to choose for us and if you don't, that opportunity vanishes and we take our business elsewhere. Take it or leave it.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1623 on: July 04, 2017, 04:56:22 PM »

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The agent is starting to annoy me.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1624 on: July 04, 2017, 04:57:49 PM »

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Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

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Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.
I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.
Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.
Yeah, it's frustrating for us but if it's information Hayward doesn't want public yet, that frustration isn't on him its on the reporters who are putting this stuff out there.
The frustration is still directed at him and he has the ability to stem it.


Not his fault but he knows that the longer he drags this out the worse it is for his image and reputation.

Agreed. If he's really not resigning in Utah then's he's ripping their hearts out, giving them a glimmer of hope, just to rip out their hearts again. That's brutal and unnecessary. The only way this salvages his rep is if he stays.

Now, I'm not saying that's what I think is happening. But I don't understand the thought process that walking it back and trying to save the announcement to do on his own terms is logical or a good PR move.

I think after the LeBron "Decision" fiasco - and the ugliness that followed it - free agents are very careful about how they handle these things.

It's gotta be hard breaking news to a fanbase/organization who you've gotten so close to. Nowadays you see so many guys taking out full-page ads in the local newspapers etc to say thanks. Most of them probably want to soften the blow if they can by whatever means necessary.

So I can see how this could be a really difficult situation for Hayward if he is indeed leaving Utah.

I get that. But how does him denying reports that he's leaving only to announce the same news tomorrow soften the blow for Utah fans?

It sucks his intended announcement was scooped, but this is not how to get out in front of it.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1625 on: July 04, 2017, 04:58:30 PM »

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My fear is that he was originally gonna sign with Boston but didnt have time to tell Utah. Now the news pre-maturely got out before he could tell it his way, that he decides to go back to Utah cause he made a split decision he was gonna feel bad for and now he wont infact sign with Boston. Im really upset cause We almost had him but some dumby had to ruin it for us...

The all-star that ALMOST signed... rediculous n it makes me hate social media...
If he's that mentally weak(he's not) I don't want him.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1626 on: July 04, 2017, 04:58:34 PM »

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My fear is that he was originally gonna sign with Boston but didnt have time to tell Utah. Now the news pre-maturely got out before he could tell it his way, that he decides to go back to Utah cause he made a split decision he was gonna feel bad for and now he wont infact sign with Boston. Im really upset cause We almost had him but some dumby had to ruin it for us...

The all-star that ALMOST signed... rediculous n it makes me hate social media...

I highly doubt this is the case. And I don't want him on my team if he can be pressured to sign in a place that he wanted to leave because he's afraid people will be mad at him.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1627 on: July 04, 2017, 04:58:52 PM »

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Can the Celtics put a deadline on this?

You have one hour to choose for us and if you don't, that opportunity vanishes and we take our business elsewhere. Take it or leave it.

naw... too soon to do that


Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1628 on: July 04, 2017, 04:58:57 PM »

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https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/882337379763208192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Futah-jazz

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Any word on when a decision will be made

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may not be until tomorrow

Ugh, that would be absolutely terrible if he drags this thing out until tomorrow.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1629 on: July 04, 2017, 04:59:11 PM »

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Haywards not coming. He's being to hesitant. If he was serious enough to sign with Boston it would of already happened. Cant go buy promises on the phone. He gets upset cause facts come out before he wants them to now he's  gonna back pedal and feel bad cause Utah went n got him Rubio. He feels guilty and now he's definitely changes his mind. His heart wasnt with Boston all the way. He made a decision n backed out. Hes going back to Utah.

I say start Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum next to Isaiah, Bradley n Horford. If that dont work out we got 3 nice picks next year. This Hayward guy came half heartedly. Not sure if it was a go to begin with...

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1630 on: July 04, 2017, 04:59:21 PM »

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starting to feel like the DeAndre decision :(, is the Jazz FO locking Hayward up like Doc and CP3 locking DeAndre up in a hotel? :(

Where's Dan Aykroyd when you need him?!?

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1631 on: July 04, 2017, 04:59:52 PM »

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Wouldn't you want to make this decision so you could get on with your 4th of July? I know I would.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1632 on: July 04, 2017, 04:59:53 PM »

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Hayward and his indecision is holding up the Celtics. They lose time each day.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1633 on: July 04, 2017, 05:01:01 PM »

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When asked about a timetable as to when the 27-year-old All-Star would make a decision, Bartelstein said there is no definitive timeline at this moment. As far as the reports about his client agreeing to come to Boston, Bartelstein said it was something that clearly bothered Hayward. “He’s upset someone would report that,” Bartelstein said. “He’s trying to re-evaluate everything.” – via CSNNE.com

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1634 on: July 04, 2017, 05:02:01 PM »

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So much drama with GH