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Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2016, 05:18:32 PM »

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He has progressed even from PS, especially the form and fluid motion of his 3pt shot. If he keeps progressing then he could be a legit breakout candidate for next year.....which would be great but hard because of Crowder. The ideal scenario is that he plays his way into forcing one of our starters to become expendable in a trade.....that's the ideal scenario whenever you draft someone at any position!



Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2016, 05:33:41 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2016, 05:34:21 PM »

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The one compliment I havent heard Lebron say about rookies is "strong"

Brown must be really strong for his age. Can you imagine in a year or two how much stronger he will be. Definitely has the frame to fill out.

First time I saw him live this year I was shocked how ripped he is for a 6'7" 19/20 year-old.  He has been training for this his whole life.

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« Reply #108 on: November 04, 2016, 05:41:03 PM »

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Overall, I really like the kid. I think the "Jaylen Brown" archetype probably is something like an Iggy-Derozan mix.

I never thought of Iggy as a comp but now that you mention it, it is a very fitting one and if he can even reach that level, we will all be very happy.

Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #109 on: November 04, 2016, 06:14:22 PM »

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How's Dragan Bender doing? Is he as bad as he looks or just too raw still?

My guess is we dodged one by not taking him.

http://www.nba.com/players/dragan/bender/1627733

The people who wanted him were drunk on potential.   There was not much evidence there to suggest he would be more than a project.   His athletic test scores were bad, one could tell he was weak by looking at him and he failed to distinguish himself in a lesser league.   All were big time warning signs  for a project that needs work.    He appears to show some potential at shooting the three.

Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #110 on: November 04, 2016, 06:25:29 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

LOL he did not look awful in summer league.

Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2016, 07:28:53 PM »

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Remember when everyone here was complaining about Danny picking Jaylen?
Good times.

If you're going to run with that comment, you have to answer 2 questions.  At the time of the draft:

1. Did you believe Jaylen is a better player and/or had a higher ceiling than Dunn?

2. Did you believe Jaylen was the clear choice at #3?

Just thought I'd chime in her: Personally,at the time of the draft I was hyped Danny picked Jaylen. I thought he had the highest upside of anyone other than Simmons. He was the clear choice at 3. He was a gamble, but a gamble worth taking. I liked him better than Dunn and believed in 5 years he would probably be better than Dunn. The only other guy in the 3-8 range who had a ceiling comparable would be the kid who went 8 to Phoenix, and Danny chose Jaylen over him so I trusted and still trust ainge. He was the right pick at the time. Dunn's is not Lillard 2.0, which a lot of ppl were saying for some reason. If Jaylen was Dunn's age, putting up the production he was putting up in college, then yes, I would have selected Dunn. But Jaylen is 19. Clearly the best player to take a swing on. Playing it safe is lame at 3 in the draft
This pretty much me

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« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2016, 07:30:11 PM »

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Crowders injury could be looked at as a chance to expedite Jalyens education.  Going in against ! Guys like James , Wade , Rondo ....good experience. 

In the long run , this Ives the C's a better player off the bench with more game experience.

I d be too nervous at that age against legions to play good .  I think he show a lot of maturity to take the court and hold his own for the most part.

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« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2016, 07:57:27 PM »

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Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2016, 08:44:39 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

LOL he did not look awful in summer league.
LOL he looked awful in summer league.  He shot 32% and 22% from three against primarily undrafted bums.  That's awful. He was better than those bums on the College level.  He should have dominated them. 

Luckily, he looks much better in the regular season.

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« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2016, 09:06:11 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

LOL he did not look awful in summer league.
LOL he looked awful in summer league.  He shot 32% and 22% from three against primarily undrafted bums.  That's awful. He was better than those bums on the College level.  He should have dominated them. 

Luckily, he looks much better in the regular season.

I wouldn't say he looked awful in the summer league.  He wasn't knocking down shots, but he showed the ability to get to the rim drawing a lot of fouls in the process.  The big difference now is he is finishing off the drives.  His improvement with his touch around the rim in such a short amount of time is extremely impressive. 
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Re: Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2016, 09:08:18 PM »

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Overall, I really like the kid. I think the "Jaylen Brown" archetype probably is something like an Iggy-Derozan mix.

I never thought of Iggy as a comp but now that you mention it, it is a very fitting one and if he can even reach that level, we will all be very happy.
Now i drink the green kool aid but let me say as a 19 year old i see a comparison for jaylens ceiling:
Dominique with what Len Bias could have been
Yep i said it

Any of us who witnessed larry bird come in as a rookie obviously are tainted but this kid is a KID.  Pretty excited to see him when he can legally drink. 

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« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2016, 09:11:57 PM »

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Overall, I really like the kid. I think the "Jaylen Brown" archetype probably is something like an Iggy-Derozan mix.

I never thought of Iggy as a comp but now that you mention it, it is a very fitting one and if he can even reach that level, we will all be very happy.

By himself, Iguodala's not a good comp. neither is Derozan. Merging them gets you closer. But Brown has a unique body, and better hands than either.

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« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2016, 09:49:24 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

LOL he did not look awful in summer league.
LOL he looked awful in summer league.  He shot 32% and 22% from three against primarily undrafted bums.  That's awful. He was better than those bums on the College level.  He should have dominated them. 

Luckily, he looks much better in the regular season.

He played like 5 games and 2 were bad and brought down his averages.  The other 3 he looked spectacular.  This is off the top of my head but overall he looked great

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« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2016, 10:42:10 PM »

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Summer league isn't mostly about numbers/efficiency. Those things, good or bad, don't really translate because all of the guys are not playing in the roles they will have on their team.

Summer league is about specific plays or showing the potential to make certain plays. Spot ups, driving closeouts, creating offense, passing, fade aways, pull ups, blocks, steals, etc.
the only reason I brought up summer league is because Jaylen was awful in summer league.  Him looking this good through his first 5 real games is a great sign. Hopefully it's a sign he's progressing fast.

LOL he did not look awful in summer league.
LOL he looked awful in summer league.  He shot 32% and 22% from three against primarily undrafted bums.  That's awful. He was better than those bums on the College level.  He should have dominated them. 

Luckily, he looks much better in the regular season.

Raw statistics are essentially useless when it comes to rookies in summer league. The %'s just don't really matter. You look for things your eye can see in SL for rookies, and Jaylen had that then too. You could see the supreme athleticism, the elite level first step, the ability to draw contact and get points. The better than expected ball-handling and passing. If you watched the games, it was pretty evident.

You can keep saying he was awful in SL because the raw efficiency wasn't great, but as you can see know, stats have very little to do with what SL can teach us. That explosive 1st step was there in the summer, it's there now, and that's what's primarily responsible for why your so high on Jaylen now, LB.