Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder

[Surferdad]

A lot of critics of drafting JB were saying he was not as good as Stanley Johnson (picked 8 by the Pistons the year before) or Justin Winslow (picked 10 by the Heat that same class).

 That picking JB was a reach at 3.

I didn't respond at the time because, frankly, I did not look at much tape on those guys.  I have since watched them play a few games. And I must say, for anyone to suggest that either of those two have the same level of talent, much less better, than Brown, are just flat wrong. Brown has a much better feel for the game. A much better ball handler. And nicer shooting touch. His footwork is incredibly better. He is quicker.   Heck, a better passer.

He may lag a little behind Winslow defensively, but is just a much more polished player overall.

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That's good to hear b/c I wanted Johnson in that draft. Was never sold on Winslow, but Jaylen has the higher ceiling anyway so I'm good with it.

[LarBrd33]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future. 

[Snakehead]

"I don't need to say why he was awful in summer league, he just was" lol.

Anyways, he has been good all throughout and he keeps getting better.  The confidence is so key.  He can get to the rim in the pros day one, and stuff like some quality passing, ball handling, shot blocking, cutting, and even a post up game are showing a bright future.

[wayupnorth]

"I don't need to say why he was awful in summer league, he just was" lol.

Anyways, he has been good all throughout and he keeps getting better.  The confidence is so key.  He can get to the rim in the pros day one, and stuff like some quality passing, ball handling, shot blocking, cutting, and even a post up game are showing a bright future.

Lol is right. I try defending the dude, and then he says stuff like that.


Maybe I am the fool.

[wayupnorth]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future.

Absolutely hilarious.

Bet we don't have to worry about Brown getting wasted underage and fighting out in the street.

You are ridiculous

[tazzmaniac]

Summer league is rather meaningless for top picks.  Don't see why anybody would put much stock in it one way or the other or bother arguing about it. 

Brown has done pretty well in the 1st 3 games and has exceeded my early expectations based on his college play. We'll have to see how much his minutes drop with Smart coming back.  If Simmons comes back in January, I'd expect him to jump Brown in ROY.  I'm guessing someone else will jump Brown because of playing time but 4th in the ROY is good for a rookie playing on a playoff team. 

[Celtics4ever]

We'll have to see how much his minutes drop with Smart coming back

With Crowder getting hurt the opposite may be true.

[crimson_stallion]

A lot of critics of drafting JB were saying he was not as good as Stanley Johnson (picked 8 by the Pistons the year before) or Justin Winslow (picked 10 by the Heat that same class).

 That picking JB was a reach at 3.

I didn't respond at the time because, frankly, I did not look at much tape on those guys.  I have since watched them play a few games. And I must say, for anyone to suggest that either of those two have the same level of talent, much less better, than Brown, are just flat wrong. Brown has a much better feel for the game. A much better ball handler. And nicer shooting touch. His footwork is incredibly better. He is quicker.   Heck, a better passer.

He may lag a little behind Winslow defensively, but is just a much more polished player overall.

s
That's good to hear b/c I wanted Johnson in that draft. Was never sold on Winslow, but Jaylen has the higher ceiling anyway so I'm good with it.

Same - I was pretty high on Johnson, but I always felt Winslow looked like a role player in the making.  Trevor Ariza in the best case, and that's being optimistic since Ariza can actually shoot.

[alldaboston]

A lot of critics of drafting JB were saying he was not as good as Stanley Johnson (picked 8 by the Pistons the year before) or Justin Winslow (picked 10 by the Heat that same class).

 That picking JB was a reach at 3.

I didn't respond at the time because, frankly, I did not look at much tape on those guys.  I have since watched them play a few games. And I must say, for anyone to suggest that either of those two have the same level of talent, much less better, than Brown, are just flat wrong. Brown has a much better feel for the game. A much better ball handler. And nicer shooting touch. His footwork is incredibly better. He is quicker.   Heck, a better passer.

He may lag a little behind Winslow defensively, but is just a much more polished player overall.

s
That's good to hear b/c I wanted Johnson in that draft. Was never sold on Winslow, but Jaylen has the higher ceiling anyway so I'm good with it.

Same - I was pretty high on Johnson, but I always felt Winslow looked like a role player in the making.  Trevor Ariza in the best case, and that's being optimistic since Ariza can actually shoot.

winslow always looked too stiff to me. i didn't think he would ever be great.

[LarBrd33]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future.

Absolutely hilarious.

Bet we don't have to worry about Brown getting wasted underage and fighting out in the street.

You are ridiculous

whats hilarious about it?   It's true.

[RockinRyA]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

So far the rookie class looks like crap as a whole, but that was expected.  Outside of Simmons and Ingram, this draft was seen as very weak.  Tier-3 players at best outside of those two guys.  Simmons is injured and Ingram is more of a long-term project than a player expected to make an immediate impact.  So what we're left with is kinda bleh.    Embiid should run away with ROY if he stays healthy.  Still might see the veteran rookies like Hield and Dunn make some noise this year, though.

He played well in Summer League outside of the games where he was injured/recovering.

[celticsclay]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future.

Absolutely hilarious.

Bet we don't have to worry about Brown getting wasted underage and fighting out in the street.

You are ridiculous

whats hilarious about it?   It's true.

I think most would prefer brown at the moment

[LarBrd33]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future.

Absolutely hilarious.

Bet we don't have to worry about Brown getting wasted underage and fighting out in the street.

You are ridiculous

whats hilarious about it?   It's true.

I think most would prefer brown at the moment

fans on this forum perhaps.  Certainly not outside extreme Celtic bias though.   "Most" on this forum also preferred RJ Hunter to Joel Embiid this Summer.  We aren't dealin with the sharpest tools in the beehive here.

[alldaboston]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?

1 - I wouldn't have traded that pick for Noel

2 - Conflicting rumors on whether Philly would have traded Okafor for that pick... though signs still point towards Okafor having a better career than Jaylen.

3 - Jaylen was able to get to the hoop and get to the line in Summer league.  That was the extent of his NBA skill on display.  He couldn't shoot.  He couldn't finish.  He couldn't really defend.  He was horrible inefficient.  And his ability to get to the line against players he was better than in College (garbage-level competition) wasn't all that big of a deal.

Preseason, he was the second least efficient player on the team.  Only jerebko was worse.

So far through 3 games, he looks like an effective role player off the bench and that's a great sign.  Perhaps it means he's improved.  I have big hopes for his future.

Absolutely hilarious.

Bet we don't have to worry about Brown getting wasted underage and fighting out in the street.

You are ridiculous

whats hilarious about it?   It's true.

I think most would prefer brown at the moment

fans on this forum perhaps.  Certainly not outside extreme Celtic bias though.   "Most" on this forum also preferred RJ Hunter to Joel Embiid this Summer. We aren't dealin with the sharpest tools in the beehive here.

don't make stuff up dude.

[colincb]

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