Jaylen Brown #2 on NBA.com Rookie Ladder

[manl_lui]

our boy getting some love!

http://www.nba.com/article/2016/11/02/rookie-ladder-week-1-joel-embiid-minutes-restrictions

#2 right behind, you guessed it - Joel Embiid

2. Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics (9)
His first three games were nothing spectacular -- nine, eight and seven points. Brown was solid in every one, though, making at least half his shots in all three while playing 19, 20 and 15 minutes, a decent role for someone days past his 20th birthday on a team in win-now mode. He made 58.8 percent of the attempts in all. The Celtics were reminded of the risk when Brown committed a costly turnover in the final minute of the loss to the Bulls last Thursday. But he has already been the first man off the bench, played in crunch time and is shooting well, enough for a big early jump.

[LarBrd33]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

So far the rookie class looks like crap as a whole, but that was expected.  Outside of Simmons and Ingram, this draft was seen as very weak.  Tier-3 players at best outside of those two guys.  Simmons is injured and Ingram is more of a long-term project than a player expected to make an immediate impact.  So what we're left with is kinda bleh.    Embiid should run away with ROY if he stays healthy.  Still might see the veteran rookies like Hield and Dunn make some noise this year, though.

[footey]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

[GratefulCs]

In before bennet and his tools

[JaylenBrown7]

Hes been real solid all around, might camp in the corner a little too much or get caught ball watching but hes made some and 1 worthy finishes, much improved compared to SL. His post game also surprised me some good moves, I'll thank Jimmy butler for that as that's who he watches film on and trained with.

My hope is come playoff time hes had a poster on somebody and he can hit the three a little better aswell as continue to finish around the rim. Embiid has ROTY in the bag as long as his foot doesnt explode.

[LarBrd33]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

[manl_lui]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

I can see why both points were made, but I honestly thought he had a great summer league and gave us reasons to be optimistic. He drew contact and was playing pretty good defense. Besides Rozier, Brown really showed people why he was the 3rd pick over other players. With that said from then until now, it looks like he greatly improved his shot after contact. It has been a lot noticeable for me at least in the summer league, he was barely grabbed in most cases but could not finish (got the foul call though!), since preseason until now, it seemed to me he is finishing better around the rim.

Another reason could have been the coaching in SL vs coaching in preseason and during the season. With Brad now coaching him, he is integrated into our system and playing with better players, which in a way could only help him more. In limited minutes during the season, I am loving what I am seeing from him and wish to see more!

[PickNRoll]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

I can see why both points were made, but I honestly thought he had a great summer league and gave us reasons to be optimistic. He drew contact and was playing pretty good defense. Besides Rozier, Brown really showed people why he was the 3rd pick over other players. With that said from then until now, it looks like he greatly improved his shot after contact. It has been a lot noticeable for me at least in the summer league, he was barely grabbed in most cases but could not finish (got the foul call though!), since preseason until now, it seemed to me he is finishing better around the rim.

Another reason could have been the coaching in SL vs coaching in preseason and during the season. With Brad now coaching him, he is integrated into our system and playing with better players, which in a way could only help him more. In limited minutes during the season, I am loving what I am seeing from him and wish to see more!

I too thought he had a great Summer League.  Watched every game.

[alldaboston]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

Seems you're largely a numbers kinda guy.

I ask you this: did he look bad to you, or did his numbers look bad to you? Were his per 36 stats subpar? Were his stats less than you expected they would be? Was it because of his Tier or whatever?

[Ilikesports17]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

I can see why both points were made, but I honestly thought he had a great summer league and gave us reasons to be optimistic. He drew contact and was playing pretty good defense. Besides Rozier, Brown really showed people why he was the 3rd pick over other players. With that said from then until now, it looks like he greatly improved his shot after contact. It has been a lot noticeable for me at least in the summer league, he was barely grabbed in most cases but could not finish (got the foul call though!), since preseason until now, it seemed to me he is finishing better around the rim.

Another reason could have been the coaching in SL vs coaching in preseason and during the season. With Brad now coaching him, he is integrated into our system and playing with better players, which in a way could only help him more. In limited minutes during the season, I am loving what I am seeing from him and wish to see more!

I too thought he had a great Summer League.  Watched every game.

I felt he was ok-solid in SL and very good in preseason.

[celticsclay]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

I can see why both points were made, but I honestly thought he had a great summer league and gave us reasons to be optimistic. He drew contact and was playing pretty good defense. Besides Rozier, Brown really showed people why he was the 3rd pick over other players. With that said from then until now, it looks like he greatly improved his shot after contact. It has been a lot noticeable for me at least in the summer league, he was barely grabbed in most cases but could not finish (got the foul call though!), since preseason until now, it seemed to me he is finishing better around the rim.

Another reason could have been the coaching in SL vs coaching in preseason and during the season. With Brad now coaching him, he is integrated into our system and playing with better players, which in a way could only help him more. In limited minutes during the season, I am loving what I am seeing from him and wish to see more!

I too thought he had a great Summer League.  Watched every game.

I felt he was ok-solid in SL and very good in preseason.

I was also really impressed by him in summer league. He was great getting to the line.

[clover]

JB #2 and climbing with a ... Wizard?

[Tr1boy]

Jb sb #1

[footey]

A lot of critics of drafting JB were saying he was not as good as Stanley Johnson (picked 8 by the Pistons the year before) or Justin Winslow (picked 10 by the Heat that same class).

 That picking JB was a reach at 3.

I didn't respond at the time because, frankly, I did not look at much tape on those guys.  I have since watched them play a few games. And I must say, for anyone to suggest that either of those two have the same level of talent, much less better, than Brown, are just flat wrong. Brown has a much better feel for the game. A much better ball handler. And nicer shooting touch. His footwork is incredibly better. He is quicker.   Heck, a better passer.

He may lag a little behind Winslow defensively, but is just a much more polished player overall.

[footey]

He's been pretty respectable off the bench so far.  It's a great sign.  He looked awful in Summerleague and was really inefficient in Preseason.   I hope he can continue being this serviceable and efficient in the bench role.  It's been really encouraging so far.

He did not look awful in summer league.  He looked inexperienced, but created a lot of contact, which got him to the line a lot. His scoring average was actually quite good.  Don't forget that many others, including me, watched summer league games. All of them. 

I know you are now going to recite a lot of garbage stats about his FG and FT %, how he couldn't finish, etc.  He got hurt his first or second game, but you will ignore that fact.

I don't need to recite why he was awful in Summer League.  He just was.  He didn't look at all NBA ready.  He was below average against garbage competition.

... which is why it's so encouraging he's been mildly respectable so far in his first 3 games against pros.  I hope that's a sign that Jaylen is a quick learner.

In my very humble opinion: You are delirious. 

Your judgment of basketball talent and skill is lacking. 

Which is why you thought (and probably still think) that we should have traded Jaylen Brown for Okafor or Noel.

What, did Jaylen Brown suddenly transform from a piece of garbage a couple of months ago to this beam of talent, overnight?