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Re: good luck rj
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2016, 11:05:53 AM »

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No idea why anyone would think Green could get cut.  He was signed for the vet min to bring in some shooting and vet presence.  Why would he be cut now.

Very little chance for a 2-for-1 trade. All teams are trying to reduce their roster size.  Also little chance of a 1-for-pick trade.  If any team wants one of our end-bench players, they should just wait for them to get cut rather than trade away a pick.

I think Mickey goes, sorry to say.
Mickey does seem like a strong candidate for being cut.

Yes, every team has cuts to make, but not every team has 15 guaranteed contracts and some only want want to keep less than 15 of their current guys. How many times have we left training camp with less than 15, even though we always have more than 15 in camp.

The reason it is hard to move the guys is that they aren't good NBA players at the moment and they are nothing more than bottom of the roster fodder right now.

Re: good luck rj
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2016, 12:59:22 PM »

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i thought i just heard an analyst with jared weiss saying young was a better dribbler
wow i must have missed something ...

I'm with you here. Hunter is definitely a better dribbler than James Young.

rj is a much better passer and young on surface looks better rebounder but i call that a draw

Regarding passing, it's pretty clear. RJ is a gifted passer, and not only that he can run offense in the pick and roll, can run a break, can iso. But James Young's advances in moving the ball in the team game are apparent in this preseason.

i keep hearing 3 and d player for young -gimme a break
these analysts must be visionaries i don't see it

Well, that's his upside. The defense is not there yet. He's got the body, it looks like he's got a feel for spacing, and it looks like he's putting in the work. As far as the range shooting goes, that's coming around already, no?

its funny but it may come down to skinny legs

Not to mention the rest of Hunter's body. I think that it's worth the risk – he's got such a great feel for the game and dedication to his craft. Of the two players, James Young has a chance to be good, and RJ Hunter has a chance to be unique. I would choose unique, even at the risk of his body not being up to the task.

green is far superior for a contending team

Excellent point – but it's always been common for a team to keep a project on the roster even as they're all-in for contending.

Re: good luck rj
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2016, 01:53:03 PM »

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I think you keep Young and get rid of Hunter. Here is my problem with RJ. A guy that size usually survives because he is very good off the ball. Able to come off screens spot up and hit a shot when the D has sagged in but that's not his game. His game is with the ball in his hands something that I never see happening on this team. Furthermore, he is not a crafty dribbler so guys can get into him with the ball in his hands. He is a nice passer but who would you take the ball out of their hands to give it to him to make the play? He would be about 6th or 7th in my mind which equates to him never being able to overdribble like he did in Brooklyn to find shots.

To me Young has a much more defined role and that is as a 3 and D guy that grabs a few rebounds. What he brings is much easier to show and for this team to use than what Hunter provides because his shooting is not knockdown for being a shooter.

Lastly, my biggest issue with RJ is that he is slow of foot and not strong. If you are slow you must be strong to keep guys infront of you, if you are fast you can use your speed to stay with guys. RJ is slow and not strong thus the million fouls even in summer league. He just isnt quick enough to get to the spots consistently and that's the only way he can play D.




i thought i just heard an analyst with jared weiss saying young was a better dribbler
wow i must have missed something ...

I'm with you here. Hunter is definitely a better dribbler than James Young.

rj is a much better passer and young on surface looks better rebounder but i call that a draw

Regarding passing, it's pretty clear. RJ is a gifted passer, and not only that he can run offense in the pick and roll, can run a break, can iso. But James Young's advances in moving the ball in the team game are apparent in this preseason.

i keep hearing 3 and d player for young -gimme a break
these analysts must be visionaries i don't see it

Well, that's his upside. The defense is not there yet. He's got the body, it looks like he's got a feel for spacing, and it looks like he's putting in the work. As far as the range shooting goes, that's coming around already, no?

its funny but it may come down to skinny legs

Not to mention the rest of Hunter's body. I think that it's worth the risk – he's got such a great feel for the game and dedication to his craft. Of the two players, James Young has a chance to be good, and RJ Hunter has a chance to be unique. I would choose unique, even at the risk of his body not being up to the task.

green is far superior for a contending team

Excellent point – but it's always been common for a team to keep a project on the roster even as they're all-in for contending.

Re: good luck rj
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2016, 02:41:51 PM »

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i thought i just heard an analyst with jared weiss saying young was a better dribbler
wow i must have missed something ...

I'm with you here. Hunter is definitely a better dribbler than James Young.

rj is a much better passer and young on surface looks better rebounder but i call that a draw



Regarding passing, it's pretty clear. RJ is a gifted passer, and not only that he can run offense in the pick and roll, can run a break, can iso. But James Young's advances in moving the ball in the team game are apparent in this preseason.

i keep hearing 3 and d player for young -gimme a break
these analysts must be visionaries i don't see it

Well, that's his upside. The defense is not there yet. He's got the body, it looks like he's got a feel for spacing, and it looks like he's putting in the work. As far as the range shooting goes, that's coming around already, no?

its funny but it may come down to skinny legs

Not to mention the rest of Hunter's body. I think that it's worth the risk – he's got such a great feel for the game and dedication to his craft. Of the two players, James Young has a chance to be good, and RJ Hunter has a chance to be unique. I would choose unique, even at the risk of his body not being up to the task.

green is far superior for a contending team

Excellent point – but it's always been common for a team to keep a project on the roster even as they're all-in for contending.

tp for your breakdown--with the team assembled at the moment and with nets draft picks
so i watched nader over and over and his progression in school
he has a 7-1 wingspan that elite for his size,i believe he has a temperment to be a shooter and he has the ability to move laterally and  is stronger-but he is stashed and he should have green light to shoot threes for a year,
 a gifted shooter should have hit near 40% even first year-a truly gifted shooter is what the celts deserve
rj is as you say unique and should get another year or maybe it will be young with his stroke, he shot over 40% for red claws in his rookie year

my nephew broke all modern day scoring records at his college because he could shoot threes
just gifted they called him rain man-rain threes
i have seen, sam jones from the old days hit like 80 in a row bank shots and then they put up a sheet with a small hole pick up a racquet and serve some un godly number through that tiny hole
it was just wow and i was rollies massimino's shooter

back to green a gifted athlete he moves better than both young and rj ,jumps higher can slash
 ,shoot of dribble and on a vet minimum

since we got green i lost all interest in rj , i thought he could be like prince someday
i now have more confidence in rozier than rj and young
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Re: good luck rj
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2016, 03:33:11 PM »

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Looks like we're going to cut RJ or Young.  I'm glad I'm not going to have to make that decision.

It's a good point about Abdel Nader though.  Regardless of which of these 2 we shed, Nader could be seen as an upgrade on them in the future.  Well unless they really show some really special glimpses this year.

Re: good luck rj
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2016, 08:15:31 PM »

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Danny will flip a coin.