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16 guys with guaranteed deals, 15 allowed on roster.. who is out? Pick two.

Young
26 (26.5%)
Jackson
6 (6.1%)
Mickey
3 (3.1%)
RJ
16 (16.3%)
Bentil
47 (48%)

Total Members Voted: 96

Voting closed: October 24, 2016, 10:12:39 PM

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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2016, 09:49:39 PM »

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I don't see any possible reason Hunter or Young should make this team.  I would say Mickey too personally even though he has a few more moments of impact than those guys.

Hunter and Young are just two "shooters" who do not hit shots.
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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2016, 10:03:27 PM »

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I'd say cut James Young and make an example to him of the other young players.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2016, 10:11:47 PM »

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I'd say cut James Young and make an example to him of the other young players.

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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2016, 10:13:52 PM »

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I don't care, b/c every one of them deserves bus fare.   
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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2016, 10:18:26 PM »

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I say trade Hunter/Young to LA for the Truth. Come on Doc you owe us a solid!

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2016, 10:20:40 PM »

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Hunters defense on the block was nice. I dont like him or Young, but he had a really hard close out and did well to recover and use his length to get the block.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2016, 10:25:04 PM »

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Cut Hunter and Bentil. James Young is showing signs of life. or at least signs of a maturing body and a higher ceiling than RJ.
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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2016, 10:28:03 PM »

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Young , Hunter both need to pack bags .

Let Nader have a shot.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 10:55:02 PM »

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Not excited about RJ anymore...can he shoot or not? He gets pushed around too because of that slight frame he carries.

Young looks up and down to me, sometimes he still looks lost, other times he's ok. I hate to say it, he's STILL young.

Bentil needs the D-league, he's still putting his pro game together.

Jackson is exciting, he can shoot, and could have some use while he expands his game.

Mickey has taken another step, small though it may be, he's active around the basket, and we can use what he excels at.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2016, 11:10:33 PM »

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Big Z, man, if he didn't make 8m I wouldn't bat an eye if he was released. He isn't a bad player (offensively) or anything but he seems to have dropped off a cliff with his game except for when he plays other team's 3rd string. What happened to him? He was always a bad defender but he has irked my nerves since last season any time he is on the court. Maybe CBS broke his heart? From starter to every other big is injured I have no choice on sending him out there or DNP.   
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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2016, 11:24:47 PM »

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RJ's  looked good tonight... especially on defense. Still, his main problem is his 3 point shooting. Why doesn't he just abandon it and shoot closer shots for better accuracy? 

My vote would be to keep Young because he shoots better. Even at that, this is tough decision because I like the overall play of Hunter better.

Another alternative would be to trade RJ, Young and Jordan for a decent big man. Realistically, that sort of deal is unlikely. Perhaps, a trade involving either Jerebko or Jae and Young for a rim protector/rebounder. 

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2016, 11:29:20 PM »

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Big Z, man, if he didn't make 8m I wouldn't bat an eye if he was released. He isn't a bad player (offensively) or anything but he seems to have dropped off a cliff with his game except for when he plays other team's 3rd string. What happened to him? He was always a bad defender but he has irked my nerves since last season any time he is on the court. Maybe CBS broke his heart? From starter to every other big is injured I have no choice on sending him out there or DNP.   

I think what's happened to him is he isn't needed anymore. The Celtics didn't exactly have a ton of options when he first arrived here but since then, the Celtics have added bigs that do more for the team than he does. First Jerebko, then Johnson, and now especially Horford. Add Olynyk's improved play and Zeller has essentially been phased out by the team because the 4 of them play better defense than Zeller and, with the exception of Johnson, all of them are better long range than Zeller.

I honestly like Zeller but he's not really worth much besides being a trade asset at this point.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2016, 11:52:10 PM »

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It's an interesting topic. Even Scal is keeping a close eye on it.

I agree with Shak that perhaps resigning Zeller was a mistake. Maybe Danny got greedy. Maybe Zeller is insurance for Olynyk's injury. Mickey is improving, but he doesn't look rotation ready. I bet next year Jordan Mickey will look a lot better, same with RJ.

This poll doesn't actually add up.

Al Horford
Amir Johnson
Avery Bradley
Tyler Zeller
Isaiah Thomas
Jae Crowder
Jonas Jerebko
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Kelly Olynyk
Terry Rozier
Gerald Green

I think we're supposed to pick three from your list:

 Young
 Jackson
 Mickey
 RJ
 Bentil

Bentil seems gone. Mickey and Jackson seem safe. It's RJ or Young and James Young has shown us nothing. I did see Hunter throw up a very ugly three pointer. His shooting is awful.

But if Smart could improve his jumper, maybe so can RJ.

Maybe Danny will be able to make a trade. The 15th slot may seem irrelevant, but there are only three preseason games left and you never know how guys on the bubble might develop.

I think James Young is gone. I forget who said it, but it makes sense to send a message to the younger players that they are not getting a free ride if they want to stay on the team long-term.

Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2016, 11:56:29 PM »

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Big Z, man, if he didn't make 8m I wouldn't bat an eye if he was released. He isn't a bad player (offensively) or anything but he seems to have dropped off a cliff with his game except for when he plays other team's 3rd string. What happened to him? He was always a bad defender but he has irked my nerves since last season any time he is on the court. Maybe CBS broke his heart? From starter to every other big is injured I have no choice on sending him out there or DNP.   

I think what's happened to him is he isn't needed anymore. The Celtics didn't exactly have a ton of options when he first arrived here but since then, the Celtics have added bigs that do more for the team than he does. First Jerebko, then Johnson, and now especially Horford. Add Olynyk's improved play and Zeller has essentially been phased out by the team because the 4 of them play better defense than Zeller and, with the exception of Johnson, all of them are better long range than Zeller.

I honestly like Zeller but he's not really worth much besides being a trade asset at this point.

Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't dislike Z, I want the best for/from all Cs but man, he hasn't been good for a while. Gotta be confidence too. I feel bad for him but also for us b/c we are thin at C/PF and if a big goes down for a spell, I have to hope it's not when teams are really trying because I don't think we could make it with Z for long. Too many stretch bigs and SFs that would play 4/5 and eat us alive and I'm not even accounting for help D.


I wanna know why Z hasn't worked on a 3 ball yet? CBS lets EVERY PLAYER take them, if Zeller has worked on it I haven't heard about it or seen him on the perimeter at all. You'd have to think they asked him to work on it at some point because they get everyone else to do it.
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Re: 10 days to go: who gets cut?
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2016, 12:01:02 AM »

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James Young could have stayed in college and developed his skills. No, he took the easy way out and went for the money. I don't know his personal situation and do not begrudge him if he felt no other choice.

This should be a lesson to one-hit wonder college players who declare for the draft to cash in early.

Unless someone is an obvious phenom like LeBron or KG, it is getting riskier to waste time on such players. I know James Young was never touted like those guys, but he still got drafted #17. If I didn't know his story and saw him for the first time, I'd wonder who he is and why he gets NBA money. He really hasn't shown much beyond a Fab Melo quality game. James Young just might not be good enough?