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Offline LarBrd33

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Maybe Hield ends up a star.  But I don't disagree with the logic behind him slipping to #6.  He played 4 years of College ball.  It makes sense for him to be better right now than guys like Jaylen Brown and Jamal Murray.  5 years from now, it might be a different story.

Hopefully people don't overreact when our #3 pick with 1 year of College ball experience struggles while a seasoned 4 year College basketball veteran plays fairly decently this year.

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Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

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I think Dunn was the smart pick at three with both upside and polish to his game. Brown was the risky pick with upside but not a lot of poise and polish and Hield was the safe pick with a lot of polish but a lower ceiling then both Brown and Dunn.

If I had to bet on how these guys turn out I would say Dunn, Hield and then Brown.

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Aren't those guys a lot older than Brown.  When he gets their age . Then compare him to them now.

Plus he is on a good team.. his minutes will be earned ...not given like on teams like the lakers who have nobody else worth a crap to play....those guys have to play NOW and a lot on their suck teams . 

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Dunn and Hield stayed school until they had no more eligibility. Dunn is almost 23, so is Hield...Brown is 19.

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Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

I guess I mean there's a fairly long list of "sure thing" shooters who have tanked.

Jimmer, Stauskas, Morrison, etc.

We'll see on Hield, I'm still a bit skeptical, he seems like a one trick pony to me. But apparently he works hard and is a good dude so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

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"Most NBA-ready rookie outperforms other rookies in preseason."

Beat me to it, TP.
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We could have gotten Jaylen at 5, 6, or 7.....wish we had traded down. If Ainge took the chance and Jaylen was taken before we picked then Buddy Hield would have been completely fine to pick and IMO we all would have been happy.

I like Jaylen a lot but IMO we could have squeezed the #3 pick for more juice.

Also, DA showed horrible judgment (LIKE HILLARY) when he chose Gab at #16 and then trading the first pick in the 2nd round and etc to the Grizzlies. DA should have consolidated or made a dam trade because a ton of value was lost......we are lucky that we have such great resources and assets but if Ainge keeps getting 70cents on the dollar then that won't be for long.

When you have the opportunity to take your guy, you take him. If Danny misses on his guy but gets Shabazz Muhammad to move down to #5, is that really worth it? Sounds like a potentially franchise-crippling move to me for very little reward.
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14, 18, 19 does not equate to 18 ppg.  2, 5, 6 does not equate to 6 rpg.

Apologies, saw those stats on one of the videos as his averages. Fixed.
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Re: Buddy Hield averaging 17 points per game in pre season.
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2016, 08:28:20 PM »

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Yea I was a fan, thought he would be a perfect ready to play guy for the C's. I like what I have seen from Brown so far and think he has some major upside. Hope we get another great pick from the Nets next year and we will be in business for a long run!

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Maybe Hield ends up a star.  But I don't disagree with the logic behind him slipping to #6.  He played 4 years of College ball.  It makes sense for him to be better right now than guys like Jaylen Brown and Jamal Murray.  5 years from now, it might be a different story.

Hopefully people don't overreact when our #3 pick with 1 year of College ball experience struggles while a seasoned 4 year College basketball veteran plays fairly decently this year.

I dunno: Jaylen seems to already understand all the sets we run, his defensive awareness in the pick and roll is already above average.

The Pels will run tons of stuff for Buddy, whereas most of the stuff our second unit will run equal sets for Gerald, Olynyk, and Terry. Decent shooting percentages will, of course, be his litmus test.
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We could have gotten Jaylen at 5, 6, or 7.....wish we had traded down. If Ainge took the chance and Jaylen was taken before we picked then Buddy Hield would have been completely fine to pick and IMO we all would have been happy.

I like Jaylen a lot but IMO we could have squeezed the #3 pick for more juice.

Also, DA showed horrible judgment (LIKE HILLARY) when he chose Gab at #16 and then trading the first pick in the 2nd round and etc to the Grizzlies. DA should have consolidated or made a dam trade because a ton of value was lost......we are lucky that we have such great resources and assets but if Ainge keeps getting 70cents on the dollar then that won't be for long.

he looks like a solid prospect. were there more nba ready guys? sure, but yab has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it.

whats wrong with that trade? he made 2 second round picks into a first round pick, did he not?

he did make "a dam trade"

what value was lost?

again, what happened that he got $0.70 on the dollar?
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We could have gotten Jaylen at 5, 6, or 7.....wish we had traded down. If Ainge took the chance and Jaylen was taken before we picked then Buddy Hield would have been completely fine to pick and IMO we all would have been happy.

I like Jaylen a lot but IMO we could have squeezed the #3 pick for more juice.

Also, DA showed horrible judgment (LIKE HILLARY) when he chose Gab at #16 and then trading the first pick in the 2nd round and etc to the Grizzlies. DA should have consolidated or made a dam trade because a ton of value was lost......we are lucky that we have such great resources and assets but if Ainge keeps getting 70cents on the dollar then that won't be for long.

he looks like a solid prospect. were there more nba ready guys? sure, but yab has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it.

whats wrong with that trade? he made 2 second round picks into a first round pick, did he not?

he did make "a dam trade"

what value was lost?

again, what happened that he got $0.70 on the dollar?
Yabusele seemed like a reach, but we can never really know because we simply didnt have enough info to either a) determine where most teams felt he was or b) really evaluate him ourselves. Zizic seemed to be a consensus pretty good pick. The Denver trade certainly seemed like 70 cents on the dollar, but its a numbers game. Those picks were really the ones that got lost in the shuffle. A bit of a bummer, but if your biggest issue with your GM is that he didnt get max value out of a couple early second rounders(Bentil and Jackson were considered steals late in the round) then your GM is probably a stud (and ours is).

We are not "lucky" to have such terrific resources and assets. Those assets were acquired through the skill of Danny Ainge.

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We could have gotten Jaylen at 5, 6, or 7.....wish we had traded down. If Ainge took the chance and Jaylen was taken before we picked then Buddy Hield would have been completely fine to pick and IMO we all would have been happy.

I like Jaylen a lot but IMO we could have squeezed the #3 pick for more juice.

Also, DA showed horrible judgment (LIKE HILLARY) when he chose Gab at #16 and then trading the first pick in the 2nd round and etc to the Grizzlies. DA should have consolidated or made a dam trade because a ton of value was lost......we are lucky that we have such great resources and assets but if Ainge keeps getting 70cents on the dollar then that won't be for long.

he looks like a solid prospect. were there more nba ready guys? sure, but yab has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it.

whats wrong with that trade? he made 2 second round picks into a first round pick, did he not?

he did make "a dam trade"

what value was lost?

again, what happened that he got $0.70 on the dollar?
Yabusele seemed like a reach, but we can never really know because we simply didnt have enough info to either a) determine where most teams felt he was or b) really evaluate him ourselves. Zizic seemed to be a consensus pretty good pick. The Denver trade certainly seemed like 70 cents on the dollar, but its a numbers game. Those picks were really the ones that got lost in the shuffle. A bit of a bummer, but if your biggest issue with your GM is that he didnt get max value out of a couple early second rounders(Bentil and Jackson were considered steals late in the round) then your GM is probably a stud (and ours is).

We are not "lucky" to have such terrific resources and assets. Those assets were acquired through the skill of Danny Ainge.

you mean the Memphis trade right? or did i miss a Denver trade somewhere?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Buddy Hield averaging 17 points per game in pre season.
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I liked Buddy in the draft. I think his athleticism is a bit better than the comps(McBuckets + Reddick) plus I think his work ethic and mentality would fit this team perfectly (as Brown's has). Athleticism and age lead me to question if he can ever be much better than McBuckets or Reddick, but hes got a very good chance to be a very good player for a long time. Im glad we took the gamble on the younger, more gifted athlete. Would not have had a problem with the Hield pick, but he creates a further log jam without really adding star potential.