Buddy Hield averaging 17 points per game in pre season.

[Ilikesports17]

We could have gotten Jaylen at 5, 6, or 7.....wish we had traded down. If Ainge took the chance and Jaylen was taken before we picked then Buddy Hield would have been completely fine to pick and IMO we all would have been happy.

I like Jaylen a lot but IMO we could have squeezed the #3 pick for more juice.

Also, DA showed horrible judgment (LIKE HILLARY) when he chose Gab at #16 and then trading the first pick in the 2nd round and etc to the Grizzlies. DA should have consolidated or made a dam trade because a ton of value was lost......we are lucky that we have such great resources and assets but if Ainge keeps getting 70cents on the dollar then that won't be for long.

he looks like a solid prospect. were there more nba ready guys? sure, but yab has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it.

whats wrong with that trade? he made 2 second round picks into a first round pick, did he not?

he did make "a dam trade"

what value was lost?

again, what happened that he got $0.70 on the dollar?

Yabusele seemed like a reach, but we can never really know because we simply didnt have enough info to either a) determine where most teams felt he was or b) really evaluate him ourselves. Zizic seemed to be a consensus pretty good pick. The Denver trade certainly seemed like 70 cents on the dollar, but its a numbers game. Those picks were really the ones that got lost in the shuffle. A bit of a bummer, but if your biggest issue with your GM is that he didnt get max value out of a couple early second rounders(Bentil and Jackson were considered steals late in the round) then your GM is probably a stud (and ours is).

We are not "lucky" to have such terrific resources and assets. Those assets were acquired through the skill of Danny Ainge.

you mean the Memphis trade right? or did i miss a Denver trade somewhere?

yes, thanks for the correction. Light blue jerseys I suppose.

[Ilikesports17]

Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

I guess I mean there's a fairly long list of "sure thing" shooters who have tanked.

Jimmer, Stauskas, Morrison, etc.

We'll see on Hield, I'm still a bit skeptical, he seems like a one trick pony to me. But apparently he works hard and is a good dude so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

I dont remember people thinking Jimmer was a sure thing.

Looking at surefire shooters Id say this:
surefire
2015: Booker--> looks amazing
2014: Stauskas--> trash
2014: McDermott-->as expected
2013: McLemore--> trash
2012: Beal--> stud
2011: Klay--> stud
2011: Jimmer--> trash
2010: Steph --> MVP
2009: Im a little shaky here but I remember Mayo and Gordon having a lot of hype. Theyve been just OK


Very unscientific and I just scrolled through recent draft picking out names I recognized as hyped shooters. I am more likely to remember a hyped shooter whos game translated but theres more guys whove turned out OK than otherwise.

But I also dont understand the monta ellis comp at all.

[kraidstar]

Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

I guess I mean there's a fairly long list of "sure thing" shooters who have tanked.

Jimmer, Stauskas, Morrison, etc.

We'll see on Hield, I'm still a bit skeptical, he seems like a one trick pony to me. But apparently he works hard and is a good dude so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

I dont remember people thinking Jimmer was a sure thing.

But I also dont understand the monta ellis comp at all.

Monta and Hield are both fearless chuckers. It's in their DNA. Monta is a better shot creator, Hield is a little bigger and could be a bit more efficient. But they both really love to score. They just love playing the game.

Regarding the Stauskas/Jimmer/Morrison comp, those guys never had the swagger or craftiness of a Buddy Hield. They were always a bit timid. There's a big difference between a shooter and a scorer. Hield/Monta have that scorer mentality, while those other guys wilted under the pressure.

[Boris Badenov]

Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

I guess I mean there's a fairly long list of "sure thing" shooters who have tanked.

Jimmer, Stauskas, Morrison, etc.

We'll see on Hield, I'm still a bit skeptical, he seems like a one trick pony to me. But apparently he works hard and is a good dude so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

I dont remember people thinking Jimmer was a sure thing.

But I also dont understand the monta ellis comp at all.

Monta and Hield are both fearless chuckers. It's in their DNA. Monta is a better shot creator, Hield is a little bigger and could be a bit more efficient. But they both really love to score. They just love playing the game.

Regarding the Stauskas/Jimmer/Morrison comp, those guys never had the swagger or craftiness of a Buddy Hield. They were always a bit timid. There's a big difference between a shooter and a scorer. Hield/Monta have that scorer mentality, while those other guys wilted under the pressure.

If you watched those Chinese team highlights (Jimmer is on the same team as Yab), I don't see how you could conclude he doesn't have swagger or confidence, or a scorer's mentality.

Seems to be it's more an issue of not having the talent to get a shot off at the NBA level. Not something about attitude.

Seriously. If this kid doesn't have a scorer's mentality I don't know who does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWJJWb1iSg

[kraidstar]

Hield has the poise and swagger that made him a good bet. Guys like that don't suddenly forget how to shoot.

I had him third behind Dunn and Brown on my wish list for the C's.

Could be a better version of Monta Ellis. He could really be a boon to Anthony Davis, maybe that club will finally get some traction.

I guess I mean there's a fairly long list of "sure thing" shooters who have tanked.

Jimmer, Stauskas, Morrison, etc.

We'll see on Hield, I'm still a bit skeptical, he seems like a one trick pony to me. But apparently he works hard and is a good dude so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

I dont remember people thinking Jimmer was a sure thing.

But I also dont understand the monta ellis comp at all.

Monta and Hield are both fearless chuckers. It's in their DNA. Monta is a better shot creator, Hield is a little bigger and could be a bit more efficient. But they both really love to score. They just love playing the game.

Regarding the Stauskas/Jimmer/Morrison comp, those guys never had the swagger or craftiness of a Buddy Hield. They were always a bit timid. There's a big difference between a shooter and a scorer. Hield/Monta have that scorer mentality, while those other guys wilted under the pressure.

If you watched those Chinese team highlights (Jimmer is on the same team as Yab), I don't see how you could conclude he doesn't have swagger or confidence, or a scorer's mentality.

Seems to be it's more an issue of not having the talent to get a shot off at the NBA level. Not something about attitude.

Seriously. If this kid doesn't have a scorer's mentality I don't know who does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWJJWb1iSg

True. But part of what I meant about "fearlessness" though is Hield's willingness to jack up shots with a hand in his face, which hsould translate well to success in the NBA. He had I believe the 4th best contested shooting percentage in the NCAA last year. That kind of success is at least partially mental.

Jimmer is a scrub athletically for sure. Morrison isn't much better if at all.

Stauskas IMO is weak-minded and should be better than he is.

But yeah, Hield's skills are good. But you gotta be tough to get that good, he struggled a bit early in his college career and made huge strides.

[chambers]

I liked Buddy in the draft. I think his athleticism is a bit better than the comps(McBuckets + Reddick) plus I think his work ethic and mentality would fit this team perfectly (as Brown's has). Athleticism and age lead me to question if he can ever be much better than McBuckets or Reddick, but hes got a very good chance to be a very good player for a long time. Im glad we took the gamble on the younger, more gifted athlete. Would not have had a problem with the Hield pick, but he creates a further log jam without really adding star potential.

Hield is looking like a real potential star. He's come in immediately contributing and doing everything that his critics said he'd struggle to do in the nba.

I'm convinced we were taking hield or Dunn next.