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Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #270 on: November 02, 2016, 05:12:21 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."
I might have misinterpreted your "sigh".  I thought you were sighing, because you wish Embiid was playing in Boston.   

I never include turnovers or fouls when referencing stats.  I always list points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and shooting percentages.   Embiid's had some turnovers, but that's not at all important right now.  The kid is shaking off two years of rust and is trying to get into some kind of rhythm in a brand new system.   The fact that he is putting up dominant stats this early is incredibly impressive.
come on. Just be genuine

You know what he meant


For the record, it would be nice to have embiid, no doubt.
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Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #271 on: November 02, 2016, 05:23:01 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."
I might have misinterpreted your "sigh".  I thought you were sighing, because you wish Embiid was playing in Boston.   

I never include turnovers or fouls when referencing stats.  I always list points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and shooting percentages.   Embiid's had some turnovers, but that's not at all important right now.  The kid is shaking off two years of rust and is trying to get into some kind of rhythm in a brand new system.   The fact that he is putting up dominant stats this early is incredibly impressive.
come on. Just be genuine

You know what he meant


For the record, it would be nice to have embiid, no doubt.
I have trouble processing human emotions via text.   Wayupnorth had said Embiid was amazing earlier in the thread so I assumed he was sighing because of regret Boston ended up with the #6 pick in the Joel Embiid draft and was unsuccessful in their attempts to trade up to get him.  My bad.  I guess I was projecting.


Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #272 on: November 02, 2016, 05:24:51 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #273 on: November 02, 2016, 05:25:42 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."
I might have misinterpreted your "sigh".  I thought you were sighing, because you wish Embiid was playing in Boston.   

I never include turnovers or fouls when referencing stats.  I always list points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and shooting percentages.   Embiid's had some turnovers, but that's not at all important right now.  The kid is shaking off two years of rust and is trying to get into some kind of rhythm in a brand new system.   The fact that he is putting up dominant stats this early is incredibly impressive.
come on. Just be genuine

You know what he meant


For the record, it would be nice to have embiid, no doubt.
I have trouble processing human emotions via text.   Wayupnorth had said Embiid was amazing earlier in the thread so I assumed he was sighing because of regret Boston ended up with the #6 pick in the Joel Embiid draft and was unsuccessful in their attempts to trade up to get him.  My bad.  I guess I was projecting.
haha, fair point

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Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #274 on: November 02, 2016, 05:34:13 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.
wayupnorth, I'm mostly joking around.   Embiid is a walking internet meme.  He's the basketball version of David S Pumpkins.  It's been exciting to watch him early in the season, but even if he stays healthy he's probably not going to continue averaging 30 points, 10 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 minutes.   He still has a looong way to go.  Kid was raw coming out of College and he's raw right now.  But admittedly, he was already playing more controlled in his 3rd game and you can clearly see the signs of a player who can be a superstar on both ends of the court.

He and Okafor should form a formidable frontline together should they decide to keep Okafor on the team.

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #275 on: November 02, 2016, 05:52:35 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.
wayupnorth, I'm mostly joking around.   Embiid is a walking internet meme.  He's the basketball version of David S Pumpkins.  It's been exciting to watch him early in the season, but even if he stays healthy he's probably not going to continue averaging 30 points, 10 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 minutes.   He still has a looong way to go.  Kid was raw coming out of College and he's raw right now.  But admittedly, he was already playing more controlled in his 3rd game and you can clearly see the signs of a player who can be a superstar on both ends of the court.

He and Okafor should form a formidable frontline together should they decide to keep Okafor on the team.

There is no arguing that if healthy, he is one of the premier young big man prospects in the league

I also truly don't believe you are a troll, but I do think you often say things just to get a reaction out of people, and that frustrates me, because you can be a huge contributor to this board. If all you did was 'crap'-post, I would not care that you often make exaggerated claims to get responses.

I don't know if Jahlil is an ideal front court mate for Embiid, but I imagine their pairing willl be at least passable.


Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #276 on: November 02, 2016, 05:59:53 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.
wayupnorth, I'm mostly joking around.   Embiid is a walking internet meme.  He's the basketball version of David S Pumpkins.  It's been exciting to watch him early in the season, but even if he stays healthy he's probably not going to continue averaging 30 points, 10 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 minutes.   He still has a looong way to go.  Kid was raw coming out of College and he's raw right now.  But admittedly, he was already playing more controlled in his 3rd game and you can clearly see the signs of a player who can be a superstar on both ends of the court.

He and Okafor should form a formidable frontline together should they decide to keep Okafor on the team.

I rather doubt they will play well together.  Which is why Okafor has been on trading block for the last 6-9 months.  He couldn't hold Embiid's jock strap (as Larry Holmes once said (incorrectly) about Rocky Marciano). 

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #277 on: November 02, 2016, 07:22:24 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.
I agree about not putting Embiid at Anthony Davis' level because he's proven himself over 4 seasons both offensively and defensively.  However I wouldn't put Towns on Davis' level either.  Towns has only played one season so I see no reason not to compare him and Embiid.  Towns had very good offensive/rebounding numbers for a rookie but as far as I can tell he's a pretty average defender.  I think Embiid's offense and rebounding project similarly to Towns but Embiid's defense will be much better.   

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #278 on: November 02, 2016, 07:50:57 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Embiid's Per-36 through the first 3 games of his professional career after 2 years off:  29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 4.6 blocks, 0.6 steals with 46% shooting, 40% from three and 76% from the line.

Pretty awesome.  One of the best storylines of the league this year.  Hopefully he doesn't hurt something else.

Embiid is averaging zero turnovers per 36 minutes?

That is amazing.

This is not true. I think LB just made an oversight in haste. He actually leads all frontcourt players in averaging 3.7 turnovers. If we want to be silly this would 6.3 per 3.6, but nobody is reasonably  going to put out per 36 numbers for a guy that will never play 36 minutes per game in his career right?

Yeah, I know the numbers, just pointing out how ole LarBrd felt compelled to use his per36 numbers, while leaving out that particular stat in order to try and further his point.

Sigh...
I'm on your side, wayupnorth.  I, too, am jealous of Philly fans.  I'd love to be watching Embiid in Boston. 

Take solace in the fact that Boston has a really good team this year and Philly is likely a few years out from having much success in the win/loss column.  Maybe that will take the edge off for you.  We still have a couple Brooklyn picks.  Still a chance we'll get a superstar some day too.

But, you aren't trolling at all.

"let me post these great per 36 numbers to say how great a guy is, but intentionally leave out the 7 turnovers he would average, and when someone calls me on that, I will simply turn around and say this guy must just be jealous of Philly."

Personally, I don't understand how the mods allow this, but as long as they do, here I am.

And now I will fly on outta here in my Roflcopter.

I do agree with some of this. I am pretty sure every single person that has seen him play likes Embiid and actually roots for the kid. I have said I do myself multiple times and that is all I see in this thread. However, LB is trying to annoy people by randomly saying people are jealous. I don't really understand why. We could just enjoy this guys game together without that nonsense.

I concur.

I had hoped he would fall to us at the time of the draft, and have always felt that if healthy he would be a good player.

I just also feel that is a huge if.

I am also bothered by the crowning him as on the same level as Anthony Davis or Karl Towns.

Might he rise to that level? Quite possibly.

Is he there now? No, he is conclusively not at that level yet.
wayupnorth, I'm mostly joking around.   Embiid is a walking internet meme.  He's the basketball version of David S Pumpkins.  It's been exciting to watch him early in the season, but even if he stays healthy he's probably not going to continue averaging 30 points, 10 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 minutes.   He still has a looong way to go.  Kid was raw coming out of College and he's raw right now.  But admittedly, he was already playing more controlled in his 3rd game and you can clearly see the signs of a player who can be a superstar on both ends of the court.

He and Okafor should form a formidable frontline together should they decide to keep Okafor on the team.
I think Okafor and Embiid could work pretty well together assuming that Embiid predominantly plays the 5 defensively.  Embiid needs to be defending the paint so you'd have to take the hit with Okafor on the perimeter.  However it is not going to matter because long term Simmons should predominantly play the 4.  So when Okafor gets his trade value up high enough I'd expect him to be traded. 

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #279 on: November 02, 2016, 09:37:06 PM »

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Philly back down to the bottom of the standings where they belong....

Another top 5 pick wallowing away in the coach's DNPs or with limited bench minutes and a pick 6 with a foot out the door because they drafted 3 guys at the same position.

Pathetic team construction, pathetic loser culture, and the fans aren't turning up. They can't give tickets away.

Geez the process is going well.
noel wasn't drafted as a result of the tanking.  Okafor is trying to get healthy right now.  He will play plenty of minutes when he's back in NBA condition.
I think you could argue that trading your only all star for a draft pick is tanking, but I get what you are saying.

Looking at the W-L record and the fans in the seats is a stupid way to judge the process. That sentence should be as obvious as it sounds ridiculous.

47 wins and 199 losses over the past 3 seasons whilst being no closer to winning anything is the only idiotic and ridiculous thing going on here.

They are no closer to the playoffs than they were 2 years ago. They are still at least 2 or 3 years away from having a roster that will be useful in achieving ANYTHING of note. Whilst this 5-6 years of pathetic basketball has gone on, you've ingrained the culture that losing is ok in your players and your fans. Free agents and other players around the league wont want to touch philly with a 10 foot pole.

There is a very clear difference between electing to rebuild through the draft, and electing to deliberately detonate an entire roster of any discernible talent, just to acquire draft picks.


how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck was chris bosh?

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #280 on: November 03, 2016, 01:39:32 AM »

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Philly back down to the bottom of the standings where they belong....

Another top 5 pick wallowing away in the coach's DNPs or with limited bench minutes and a pick 6 with a foot out the door because they drafted 3 guys at the same position.

Pathetic team construction, pathetic loser culture, and the fans aren't turning up. They can't give tickets away.

Geez the process is going well.
noel wasn't drafted as a result of the tanking.  Okafor is trying to get healthy right now.  He will play plenty of minutes when he's back in NBA condition.
I think you could argue that trading your only all star for a draft pick is tanking, but I get what you are saying.

Looking at the W-L record and the fans in the seats is a stupid way to judge the process. That sentence should be as obvious as it sounds ridiculous.

47 wins and 199 losses over the past 3 seasons whilst being no closer to winning anything is the only idiotic and ridiculous thing going on here.

They are no closer to the playoffs than they were 2 years ago. They are still at least 2 or 3 years away from having a roster that will be useful in achieving ANYTHING of note. Whilst this 5-6 years of pathetic basketball has gone on, you've ingrained the culture that losing is ok in your players and your fans. Free agents and other players around the league wont want to touch philly with a 10 foot pole.

There is a very clear difference between electing to rebuild through the draft, and electing to deliberately detonate an entire roster of any discernible talent, just to acquire draft picks.

Would you rather be the Kings?

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #281 on: November 03, 2016, 01:41:58 AM »

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Philly back down to the bottom of the standings where they belong....

Another top 5 pick wallowing away in the coach's DNPs or with limited bench minutes and a pick 6 with a foot out the door because they drafted 3 guys at the same position.

Pathetic team construction, pathetic loser culture, and the fans aren't turning up. They can't give tickets away.

Geez the process is going well.
noel wasn't drafted as a result of the tanking.  Okafor is trying to get healthy right now.  He will play plenty of minutes when he's back in NBA condition.
I think you could argue that trading your only all star for a draft pick is tanking, but I get what you are saying.

Looking at the W-L record and the fans in the seats is a stupid way to judge the process. That sentence should be as obvious as it sounds ridiculous.

47 wins and 199 losses over the past 3 seasons whilst being no closer to winning anything is the only idiotic and ridiculous thing going on here.

They are no closer to the playoffs than they were 2 years ago. They are still at least 2 or 3 years away from having a roster that will be useful in achieving ANYTHING of note. Whilst this 5-6 years of pathetic basketball has gone on, you've ingrained the culture that losing is ok in your players and your fans. Free agents and other players around the league wont want to touch philly with a 10 foot pole.

There is a very clear difference between electing to rebuild through the draft, and electing to deliberately detonate an entire roster of any discernible talent, just to acquire draft picks.
before they had Jrue Holiday and Thad Young, now they have Embiid Simmons Okafor Noel and Saric. They are undoubtedly much closer to true contention than they were before.

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #282 on: November 03, 2016, 01:47:26 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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Philly back down to the bottom of the standings where they belong....

Another top 5 pick wallowing away in the coach's DNPs or with limited bench minutes and a pick 6 with a foot out the door because they drafted 3 guys at the same position.

Pathetic team construction, pathetic loser culture, and the fans aren't turning up. They can't give tickets away.

Geez the process is going well.
noel wasn't drafted as a result of the tanking.  Okafor is trying to get healthy right now.  He will play plenty of minutes when he's back in NBA condition.
I think you could argue that trading your only all star for a draft pick is tanking, but I get what you are saying.

Looking at the W-L record and the fans in the seats is a stupid way to judge the process. That sentence should be as obvious as it sounds ridiculous.

47 wins and 199 losses over the past 3 seasons whilst being no closer to winning anything is the only idiotic and ridiculous thing going on here.

They are no closer to the playoffs than they were 2 years ago. They are still at least 2 or 3 years away from having a roster that will be useful in achieving ANYTHING of note. Whilst this 5-6 years of pathetic basketball has gone on, you've ingrained the culture that losing is ok in your players and your fans. Free agents and other players around the league wont want to touch philly with a 10 foot pole.

There is a very clear difference between electing to rebuild through the draft, and electing to deliberately detonate an entire roster of any discernible talent, just to acquire draft picks.
before they had Jrue Holiday and Thad Young, now they have Embiid Simmons Okafor Noel and Saric. They are undoubtedly much closer to true contention than they were before.
Yup.  Saying they "aren't closer to the playoffs" after adding three future stars is pretty silly.  It's like claiming the Wolves "aren't closer to the playoffs" after adding Karl Towns.

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #283 on: November 03, 2016, 02:29:41 AM »

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Smell the potential!

Re: Joel Embiid now "the process"
« Reply #284 on: November 03, 2016, 03:21:27 AM »

Offline guava_wrench

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Philly back down to the bottom of the standings where they belong....

Another top 5 pick wallowing away in the coach's DNPs or with limited bench minutes and a pick 6 with a foot out the door because they drafted 3 guys at the same position.

Pathetic team construction, pathetic loser culture, and the fans aren't turning up. They can't give tickets away.

Geez the process is going well.
noel wasn't drafted as a result of the tanking.  Okafor is trying to get healthy right now.  He will play plenty of minutes when he's back in NBA condition.
I think you could argue that trading your only all star for a draft pick is tanking, but I get what you are saying.

Looking at the W-L record and the fans in the seats is a stupid way to judge the process. That sentence should be as obvious as it sounds ridiculous.

47 wins and 199 losses over the past 3 seasons whilst being no closer to winning anything is the only idiotic and ridiculous thing going on here.

They are no closer to the playoffs than they were 2 years ago. They are still at least 2 or 3 years away from having a roster that will be useful in achieving ANYTHING of note. Whilst this 5-6 years of pathetic basketball has gone on, you've ingrained the culture that losing is ok in your players and your fans. Free agents and other players around the league wont want to touch philly with a 10 foot pole.

There is a very clear difference between electing to rebuild through the draft, and electing to deliberately detonate an entire roster of any discernible talent, just to acquire draft picks.
before they had Jrue Holiday and Thad Young, now they have Embiid Simmons Okafor Noel and Saric. They are undoubtedly much closer to true contention than they were before.
Yup.  Saying they "aren't closer to the playoffs" after adding three future stars is pretty silly.  It's like claiming the Wolves "aren't closer to the playoffs" after adding Karl Towns.
Or saying Boston isn't closer to Berlin than Pittsburgh.