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Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2016, 12:34:10 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2016, 12:57:05 AM »

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I think Olynyk would surprise a lot of people if he was playing 30 mns a game. Absolutely a great big off the bench but I could see him starting too. His handle is stellar. Just has to initiate contact down there and attempt finishing stronger. For me, last year was extremely frustrating with him coming in with a minute and a half left in the 1 st quarter. If given the time I really think he's produce.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2016, 09:43:05 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.


He is certainly in a perfect situation and is set up with a great opportunity to have a break out season. Horford and Amir are both very good compliments for Kelly to excel and make the most of his talents.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2016, 11:21:45 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.
It is very very rare for a guy that has gotten consistent minutes for 3 years with nominal improvement in those 3 years, to all of a sudden have a coming out party in year 4.  I mean seriously, the only things KO had as a career high in year 3 were TOV% and 3PT%.  That doesn't strike me as a guy that is due to come out, especially a guy that had 3 years of college
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Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2016, 11:47:19 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.
It is very very rare for a guy that has gotten consistent minutes for 3 years with nominal improvement in those 3 years, to all of a sudden have a coming out party in year 4.  I mean seriously, the only things KO had as a career high in year 3 were TOV% and 3PT%.  That doesn't strike me as a guy that is due to come out, especially a guy that had 3 years of college
I remain of the believe that Olynyk could average 16+ points efficiently with enough minutes.  I'm not expecting him to make a giant leap in his skillset, but I do still think it's possible he could find a level of consistency with a heightened role/minutes.

I believe it will come down to role/minutes for a lot of our guys.  I think there's a decent chance Avery or Jae could make an all-star team with enough minutes and a focused role.  NOt sure if any of them will get that opportunity here next year. 


Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2016, 12:41:52 PM »

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I see that possibility for Kelly too but I'm not a big believer that he will be given the minutes.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2016, 01:17:10 PM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.

I . . . uh . . . gulp . . . agree.
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Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2016, 02:48:21 PM »

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Kelly Olynyk will be what Kelly Olynyk has been since he got here. He will be 26 by the time this season is over. He isn't going to suddenly change who he is and how he plays at his age. He isn't going to blossom into some star, #1,2 or 3 option, fierce rebounder, great defender, mentally and physically tough as nails guy.

He is going to shoot well and pass well. But with that comes a reluctance to shoot and a need to overpass the ball. He will be a poor to meh, okay rebounder. You won't catch him out of positional team defensive positions very often but he isn't a great option to cover perimeter 4's or big 5's individually. He will be inconsistent and reluctant in his play and he will at some time miss a bunch of games because he is a bit injury prone.

Stats similar to last year is what I would expect.

This.

Kelly is the glue guy role player he was always projected to be since he was drafted.

His combination of poor speed, poor length, and poor strength will continue to relegate him to role player status.

He's a good 7 or 8 guy not a starter.

How about this for a comp?  Kelly is the stretch-4 version of Nick Collison.


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Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2016, 03:11:20 PM »

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I think Kelly's ceiling is way higher than Collisin but only time will tell.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2016, 03:47:47 PM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.
It is very very rare for a guy that has gotten consistent minutes for 3 years with nominal improvement in those 3 years, to all of a sudden have a coming out party in year 4.  I mean seriously, the only things KO had as a career high in year 3 were TOV% and 3PT%.  That doesn't strike me as a guy that is due to come out, especially a guy that had 3 years of college
I remain of the believe that Olynyk could average 16+ points efficiently with enough minutes.  I'm not expecting him to make a giant leap in his skillset, but I do still think it's possible he could find a level of consistency with a heightened role/minutes.

I believe it will come down to role/minutes for a lot of our guys.  I think there's a decent chance Avery or Jae could make an all-star team with enough minutes and a focused role.  NOt sure if any of them will get that opportunity here next year.
That is just KO playing more minutes, that isn't a breakout.  Of course, I have no idea if KO can really play more minutes.  He certainly had the opportunity to play more minutes last year and he couldn't do it. 
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Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2016, 08:36:22 PM »

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I think Kelly's ceiling is way higher than Collisin but only time will tell.
I think his ceiling is higher but I think I'd rather have a prime Collison.  He was nowhere near as skilled but much better in toughness and as a competitor.  I would have been happy to go into a playoff battle with Collison.   Kelly has some amazing skills for his size but I'm just not confident I'd ever choose him over Collison.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2016, 11:05:41 PM »

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I believe Kelly is what he is. He'll play 24 mpg or so and put up 10 + 5 with good advanced stats. Some games he will look like a great offensive weapon, other games indecisive and largely invisible on the court.


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He is a good kid though...If he surprises everyone I'll be happy for him.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2016, 12:18:56 AM »

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Kelly is a very nice piece. I think his impact is a bit underrated. When hes on his game hes a terrific weapon. That said, I dont see him putting it together. As has been the trend, I expect him to be a little bit stronger, a little bit tougher, a little bit more consistent, and a little bit more aggressive than last year.

He will once again be a high-level bench player. This time weve just got hope he hits his stride in the playoffs, not before them.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2016, 03:40:46 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.
It is very very rare for a guy that has gotten consistent minutes for 3 years with nominal improvement in those 3 years, to all of a sudden have a coming out party in year 4.  I mean seriously, the only things KO had as a career high in year 3 were TOV% and 3PT%.  That doesn't strike me as a guy that is due to come out, especially a guy that had 3 years of college
I remain of the believe that Olynyk could average 16+ points efficiently with enough minutes.  I'm not expecting him to make a giant leap in his skillset, but I do still think it's possible he could find a level of consistency with a heightened role/minutes.

I believe it will come down to role/minutes for a lot of our guys.  I think there's a decent chance Avery or Jae could make an all-star team with enough minutes and a focused role.  NOt sure if any of them will get that opportunity here next year.
That is just KO playing more minutes, that isn't a breakout.  Of course, I have no idea if KO can really play more minutes.  He certainly had the opportunity to play more minutes last year and he couldn't do it.
Often "break-out" performances are purely minutes/role related - not an actual leap in ability.

Why do you think Kelly can't play more minutes and get more shot attempts?

In 8 games as a starter he averaged 12 points, 6.4 rebounds, 2.1 assists with 48% shooting and 48% shooting from three in 26.8mpg.

I'm not guaranteeing a Olynyk break-out performance here... I just think it's possible this could be the year he finally solidifies a starting role, more minutes, and a more pronounced role in the offense.  I think it's already in him.  Who knows if it will come out.

Re: Will this finally be Olynyk's year?
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2016, 07:05:43 AM »

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Man there sure are some negative nancys here.  I think there's a shot olynyk has a break-out season this year and locks in a starting role.
It is very very rare for a guy that has gotten consistent minutes for 3 years with nominal improvement in those 3 years, to all of a sudden have a coming out party in year 4.  I mean seriously, the only things KO had as a career high in year 3 were TOV% and 3PT%.  That doesn't strike me as a guy that is due to come out, especially a guy that had 3 years of college

I reluctantly agree here.  For all the talk that it takes bigs longer to come around, it's hard to find examples of bigs breaking out at age 26 or after.   KO's hero Dirk was putting up 22 and 9 at age 22 already.  I think he is mostly is what he is, and will continue to tease us every now and then but not take his game to another level.  He is still a good player though.