yea you have said that a few hundred times. Why not contribute by saying what teams you think would want him and would give a decent price for him?
Other than Boston (who reportedly was turned down when they offered a major package built around the 2016 Brooklyn pick 7 months ago), my wild guess is that the Suns or Lakers might have some interest.
I don't think anyone has yet offered an acceptable package by Philly's standards. Otherwise he'd be gone already.
To your point about perception/supposed trade value dropping, I guess that just proves how quickly opinions can shift. Last year Okafor won a National Championship as a Freshman and was widely believed to be one of the three best prospects in the draft. Now suddenly we have people like you who think he's worth peanuts. Philly would be wise to wait until next season to see if these fickle opinions shift back in the other direction.
So the Suns would presumably be giving up on Len in this scenario and possibly risking that Okafor and Bender could play together long term? Len was creeping up on averaging a double double the second half of the season and is 23 right now. Would it be worth them presumably moving other assets and Len to risk Okafor? That seems like a tough sell.
Are the Lakers going to give up Randle in this deal? It seems doubtful those two could play together much at all. Although I personally don't think Randle is a longterm star.
i still think Okafor for d'Angelo Russell might make sense for both teams.
that's the 76er pipe dream that's for sure
glad someone finally agrees with me that D'Angelo Russell looks like a future superstar.
Future superstar? That's a bit much. But he did play pretty well whenever Kobe wasn't around, and I think he's got a solid future in this league.
However, that's the reason LA won't be trading him for Okafor. Russell has a skillset that can fit with a bunch of different play-styles. Okafor doesnt. The idea that LA would trade the guy they took INSTEAD of Okafor, for Okafor, is ridiculous. Never gonna happen. If Philly wants to trade Okafor for Larry Nance Jr. And Clarkson, then maybe. But he's not worth D'Angelo Russell, the same way he isn't worth Jaylen Brown.
I know you love you some Okafor LB, but he's just not very valuable around the league. And of Philly goes into this season with both him and Noel, his value will continue to plummet. Playing in Philly is seriously exposing all of Jahlil's flaws and accentuating none of his strengths. If they don't wanna take a Rozier/Hunter/2nd rounder kinda package, he'll just continue to lose trade value.
Honestly I think that's all kinds of ridiculous. It was his rookie season. He's 20 years old. Yeah, the guy won a national championship last year, proved to be an incredible prospect, made all-rookie 1st team while averaging 17 points efficiently on a dumpster-fire of a roster, but the idea that he's a finished product who should be treated like a 28 year old veteran is all kinds of ridiculous. He already was showing improvement last year. His floor is Al Jefferson. Maybe that's all he ever becomes, but it makes no sense to insist that's the only route he can possibly take. It's kind of bizarre to me that people focus on the flaws of a 20 year old stud, but overlook the flaws of someone like our very own Marcus Smart. He's had a disappointing start and is coming off a historically bad shooting season after regressing his second season - yet there's literally someone in this thread who thinks Philly would be lucky to get Smart for Okafor. It makes no sense.
There's a lot of young guys around the league I'd be excited about acquiring. I'd love to snag Okafor. He has major star potential. I'd obviously love that to happen in Boston instead of Philly.
His perceived trade value could skyrocket as quickly as people claim it plummeted.
Sure it could, but it's not gonna happen in Philly. Not with Noel, Simmons and Embiid playing next to him. Those guys are the exact opposite of a cast that fits Okafor's game. And playing next to a Noel or a Simmons just exacerbates Okafor's weaknesses. If they're gonna hold out for a better offer than that Nance/Clarkson kind of package they're gonna have a harder and harder time trying to trade him. You can believe in Okafor all you want, but that situation in Philly is toxic for him, and it's troubling for the new regime in terms of what they can get back for a 3rd overall pick that just finished his rookie year.
As far as the actual player goes, I don't think anyone is treating him like a 9 year vet. Jefferson was a better player in his prime than Okafor was last year, by far, so I'm not so sure Al is the "floor" for Okafor. But regardless, the thing is is that you can't just look at a guy and say "Hey, look at his raw stats and his age, has gonna have to improve, he'll be a star!". That ignored everything basketball related to this argument. Okafor's weaknesses are very troublesome. He's so poor at certain key aspects of the game that it seems nearly impossible that he improves on them to the point where he becomes a superstar. On top of that, his skill set is one that needs to be designed around in order to have it reach his full potential. Unfortunately, his talent at this point doesn't justify most teams changing they're entire systems for Jahlil Okafor. That won't happen until he can prove himself a legitimate two-way player. That's not gonna happen until he proves he can actually switch on defense for a play or two. That's just not gonna happen in Philly, no matter what.
Love Okafor all you want, but if Okafor is going to reach the potential you think he has, it's not gonna be able to happen for the Sixers. And if the situation in Philly is so uncondusive to his success that he needs to leave there to have a hope of reaching that potential, then Philly is going to realize at some point soon that they're just not gonna get equal value for him. That's the price of taking 3 centers at the top of the lottery 3 years in a row, knowing you won't be able to play them together. IMO, they should've taken the best possible deal they would've gotten for him at the draft, because his value only gets lower from here, especially is Embiid actually plays.