Jaylen can be really good some day. Right now, he doesn't really have any offensive game.
This was what USA Today had to say about the Jaylen Brown pick: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/2016-nba-draft-worst-picks-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics
Boston needs 3-point shooting in the worst way after finishing last season 28th in the league in 3-point shooting percentage. Nothing has changed after the Celtics wasted the third-overall pick on Jaylen Brown, a terrific athlete with an inconsistent jump shot and weak handles
The Celtics needed a shooter who could play off the ball with Isaiah Thomas or Marcus Smart on the floor. Instead, they took an over-dribbling non-shooter. This pick did not make Boston any better.
Their words, not mine. Then right on cue, Jaylen chucked his way through 6 summer-league games in which he shot 32% from the field and 22% from three and consistently struggled to finish at the hoop (a flaw frequently pointed out by scouts). While he showed flashes of raw athleticism and decent shooting form, it doesn't yet look like he's ready to make any contributions on the offensive end. He was consistently able to bull his way to the basket and get to the line, but bully ball is probably not going to work as well in the real league. The chasm between Summer League competition and the actual NBA is extraordinary. If he was that inefficient on that level, it's not a good sign for the hopes of his early production.
It doesn't matter, though. Long-term he could grow by leaps and bounds. Maybe he even makes some dramatic improvements over the Summer. My expectations of him in Year 1 are basically non-existent though. I hope he can make some decent defensive contributions and get some fast-break dunks. Beyond that, I expect nothing of him in year 1. I think 5 years from now he might be excellent.
You keep harping on his "struggle" to finish at the hoop. In doing this you are completely ignoring the fact that he was fouled a high percentage of the time that he went to the hoop, and after a slow start, improved on his free throw shooting.
Your comment is highly misleading, once again.
if you get fouled while taking a shot, it doesn't count as a missed field goal. If you shoot 30% in a league made up of almost entirely undrafted semi-pros, it's fair to say you struggled offensively. He rarely finished at the hoop regardless of whether or not he was fouled. He's a poor shooter and a poor finisher. These were the labels he had in college and that was what was on display in the summer league.
Join me in my optimism about his future but let's not waste more time disagreeing about his blatantly obvious lack of current skill.
At the moment, he's not much of a two-way player. In defense of this thread, there probably wasn't a better SF option available. Expectations should be low for every player taken outside the top 2. Aside from Simmons and Ingram, this was pretty consistently called a down draft by the "draftniks".
LB, this is a hypocrite test. Read the bolded above and then look at Simmons' summer league stats. Please tell me that those same criticisms apply to Simmons as well.
Simmons greatest skill on display was his elite-level passing ability. That should allow him to make an impact immediately. Everything I read suggests he's an athletic 6'10 Rajon Rondo right now. He's expected to be Philly's point guard and he had NBA-level point guard skills on display. You don't understand what the word "hypocrite" means. Your post insinuates I've suggested Ben Simmons is a great scorer right now. I've never suggested that.
FWIW, NBA.com put Simmons ahead of Jaylen in their summer-league recap. They had the following to say:
The No. 1 pick was exactly as advertised: bad shooting (32.2 percent, so "bad" is being kind) but rebounding (7.7 in 28.8 minutes in six games in Salt Lake City and Las Vegas) and the vision of a skilled veteran point guard. While the assist-to-turnover ratio looked bad (5.5 against 3.83), several passes went down as his mistake because teammates were not ready or didn't expect Simmons to be able to squeeze the ball through defenses. He did. And will.
I think both of those guys obviously have a chance to get much better long-term. Simmons is widely regarded as a vastly superior prospect to Brown for a number of reasons.
You seem to bury Brown in nearly every post recently, being critical of basically his entire game.
That's not true. I'm super optimistic about Brown. I just feel defensive of the guy... I know that within the his first two months people are going to jump the gun and call him a bust. This upsets me, because I know that his struggles have been widely expected. He has consistently been portrayed by the "Draftniks" as guy who has a long way to go to be effective on both ends of the court. It was consistently pointed out that he struggles shooting and finishing at the hoop. All of that was on display in the Summer League. Expections for him in year 1 will be minimal. THe hope is that he can improve enough defensively (he struggled with that in Summer league as well) to make an impact off the bench. Beyond that, everyone has consistently said he's going to need a few years. He's a project. Long-term, the guy can be great if everything works out. I'd rather this board set expectations appropriately than have to deal with the inevitable "Brown is a bust!" whining during his entirely anticipated struggle of a rookie season.
My hope is that he surpasses expectations and ends developing quickly.
It's kinda silly to call me a "hypocrite" for sharing the widely held consensus of people who follow draft prospects a heck of a lot more than anyone here.
Also, Eddie... if you're somehow ignorant to why Ben Simmons is widely considered a vastly superior prospect to Jaylen Brown, I recommend you simply look at
literally any piece of coverage on the NBA draft. I'm not sure how you've been oblivious to this. It's September 2016. Surely you haven't been in a coma, because I know you've been harassing me on this forum for months.
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