stanley johnson and winslow a good measure

[rollie mass]

johnson drafted number eight by detroit had a very productive rookie year as did winslow at a slower pace
stanley was productive early with some double digit games shot .301 from 3 point and averaged 8 points -shoots almost 80% from line and hit 5 3's in one game
winslow avg 6.4 and shot .276 from three and about 69% free throws

[Ilikesports17]

Both, especially Winslow, were more NBA ready than brown.

Edit: that's not to say brown can't be better off the bat but Winslow was much more refined in terms of understanding the game and fitting into a system on both sides.

[rollie mass]

 i agree with you there but in terms of draft selection height, weight  and build
-i quess rjh and justin anderson could be added

[Surferdad]

Both, especially Winslow, were more NBA ready than brown.

Edit: that's not to say brown can't be better off the bat but Winslow was much more refined in terms of understanding the game and fitting into a system on both sides.

I wanted Stanley Johnson on draft night, Winslow less so, but I agree they were both more ready though Brown could end up being better than both in the long run.

[loco_91]

I'd like to see if Brown can be on those guys' level defensively. Offensively he'll probably struggle, but it doesn't worry me too much. Defensively he showed his potential in SL, but I don't think he'll be as great as Winslow right off the bat, and he might not be as  good as Johnson either. If he can be a real stopper on D it will go a long way toward earning him rotation minutes.

[Csfan1984]

I felt Winslow and SJ were indeed more NBA ready with both having more complete games but Brown is dominant at what he does. Does that mean Brown could be a better rookie than SJ and Winslow? SJ, no. Winslow, yes. Brown does seem to understand that his game may be good enough to get him on the court in the NBA right now but he won't stay on it long if he can't read the game. He talks about reads, reads, reads, and more physical training. TOs were a huge problem for him in college and keeping defensive focus communicating is a must in the NBA. Brown wants to fix his weakness (reads) and be elite at what he does best (drives+D). He should fall in between SJ and Winslow year one.

[gift]

Winslow and Johnson were more NBA ready than Brown. Brown has a higher ceiling than both. If he realizes his potential his trajectory will be more steep than those two. Brown at the end of year 1 should be much different than Brown in November. I think Jaylen could end his rookie year better than Winslow and Johnson ended theirs.

[Boris Badenov]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

[Rondo9]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

Well Brown has a much better first step than Smart, combined with his NBA ready body and he may not struggle too much.

[Boris Badenov]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

Well Brown has a much better first step than Smart, combined with his NBA ready body and he may not struggle too much.

Maybe. I'm just saying that sort of dribble-drive is about the easiest thing for any decent NBA defense to deal with.

And in Brown's defense he is already shiftier on those drives than Smart. Ultimately I think the skill will translate. Just maybe not right away.

[Csfan1984]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

Well Brown has a much better first step than Smart, combined with his NBA ready body and he may not struggle too much.

Maybe. I'm just saying that sort of dribble-drive is about the easiest thing for any decent NBA defense to deal with.

And in Brown's defense he is already shiftier on those drives than Smart. Ultimately I think the skill will translate. Just maybe not right away.

Dribble drives by elite athletes isn't easy to deal with without a double or triple team. Brown is at a way higher level at it than Smart. At best Smart might get an angle more consistently when at his peak. Brown should blow by guys who don't give him 2+ feet of space every time.

[Boris Badenov]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

Well Brown has a much better first step than Smart, combined with his NBA ready body and he may not struggle too much.

Maybe. I'm just saying that sort of dribble-drive is about the easiest thing for any decent NBA defense to deal with.

And in Brown's defense he is already shiftier on those drives than Smart. Ultimately I think the skill will translate. Just maybe not right away.

Dribble drives by elite athletes isn't easy to deal with without a double or triple team. Brown is at a way higher level at it than Smart. At best Smart might get an angle more consistently when at his peak. Brown should blow by guys who don't give him 2+ feet of space every time.

I think we are saying pretty much the same thing. I'm iust talking about Brown's ability to get on the floor next year as a rookie. When I say "that kind of dribble drive" I mean one by a 19 year old who's been used to overpowering people and hasn't faced NBA defenses.

[Csfan1984]

Unfortunately Brown's defense seems farther away, and his biggest offensive strength (driving in a straight line and getting fouled) is one of the least likely to translate rapidly to the NBA, as we've seen with Smart.

But we have a good team and a deep bench, so with any luck we will have a few garbage time minutes here and there for him right away, and lots of quality guys around him when he's on the floor. And if he plays his way to something more, all the better.

Well Brown has a much better first step than Smart, combined with his NBA ready body and he may not struggle too much.

Maybe. I'm just saying that sort of dribble-drive is about the easiest thing for any decent NBA defense to deal with.

And in Brown's defense he is already shiftier on those drives than Smart. Ultimately I think the skill will translate. Just maybe not right away.

Dribble drives by elite athletes isn't easy to deal with without a double or triple team. Brown is at a way higher level at it than Smart. At best Smart might get an angle more consistently when at his peak. Brown should blow by guys who don't give him 2+ feet of space every time.

I think we are saying pretty much the same thing. I'm iust talking about Brown's ability to get on the floor next year as a rookie. When I say "that kind of dribble drive" I mean one by a 19 year old who's been used to overpowering people and hasn't faced NBA defenses.

With a slight difference I believe Brown is similar to Eddie Jones his drive game will translate early and won't be easily defended. His overall game will come slow like Jones.

[footey]

I wouldn't trade Brown for Winslow or Johnson. I think he will be a better player.

[alewilliam789]

I think Brown can be a lot better, or at least show a lot more as a true star, than either Johnson or Winslow. Winslow is a tweener stuck in between the 3 and the 4 who knows enough to lockdown defend and be a solid role player. Stanley has all the offensive/defensive components to be a star, but lacks the athleticism to fully translate. Brown is more advance offensively than what people are giving him credit for. Yes he didn't shoot too well, and sometimes spaced defensively, but I think Brown can easily put in more minutes/make a bigger difference in our fast paced offense and team oriented defense. People highly underrating Brown's skill level in iso situations which is something Johnson and Winslow didn't show a whole lot of coming out. People aren't talking about the fact that he outplayed both Ingram and Simmons on both sides of the court!! Love this kid's mentality and tools and I honestly believe he will be our next star player.