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Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2016, 11:55:03 PM »

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I don't expect Olynyk to be ready for the beginning of the season. Accordingly, I expect Cousins to start :)

(Actually, I think Amir, Jerebko, Smart, and Brown will all get a shot at the role in the pre-season.  My money is on Amir, but I'm rooting for Smart and Brown.)

Smart at the 3 with Crowder at the 4?

Yes.

I think that's the end of game unit even with Olynyk healthy.

Hmm, interesting. Though we'll surely see that lineup a lot at the end of certain games, I don't necessarily think that's a sustainable starting unit. For example, how would that unit guard Cleveland? I think that's just too small with a unit that already was small and pretty bad at rebounding to begin with.

If you want the extra defense and versatility in the starting lineup, why don't you add JJ instead of Smart, which gives you more size, length, and shooting?

Smart would guard LeBron.  I know it sounds crazy, but to start a game in the regular season, it'd work fine.  LeBron likes getting his teammates involved in the first quarter anyway.

You're concerned about shooting, but what's your second unit while KO is out if you start JJ?  Rozier, Smart, Brown, and Johnson? Talk about no shooting.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2016, 11:56:06 PM »

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I had a notion that jerebko would look really good next to horford.
He's not the best at anything, but he does everything, and he brings it every game.

the two would be an agile and tough defensive pairing.



That's got to be the first time that the words 'agile' and 'tough' have ever been used to describe KO, lol ;D. TP for the laugh ;D.

Read it again Chuckles.

You got me, lol ;D. Sorry about that.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2016, 12:07:10 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

I seriously question why you're even a Celtics fan. All that I ever see you do is sarcastically crap all over our players and glorify weird, unproven prospects like Thon Maker or Poeltl, even suggesting we trade Smart to get the number 12 pick to take Poeltl or something...

I'll have you know that I bleed green (sarcasm), lol ;D, but never question my fandom, haha ;D. That said, I'm sorry for the negativity.  Really.  Hopefully a new thread will at least try to offset all of my criticisms, even though I think that they're fair. 

And it was IT and KO for Poeltl at 6 and a combination of trading Crowder to the Hawks for 12 and 21 and then trading said picks to Sacramento for the 8th pick to take Maker, btw.  Given what the Kings ultimately traded for in terms of picks, I think that it was definitely possible to get the Kings' pick.  What say you to that?  Just the pick, mind you, not Maker, as I know that you wanted Chriss, right?

I know that everyone makes fun of me for being interested in undrafted free agents and all that comes with that, but we all have our things, right, lol ;D?  For example, you're the founder of the Marcus Smart fan club, haha. 

Oops, I got sidetracked.  Here's the thread, and I think you'll enjoy it :), and no, I'm not being sarcastic nor criticizing any of our players.  Brb, making thread ;D.

Edit: made thread - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86623.0

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2016, 12:21:30 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

Basketball.

When he plays in Toronto and/or in front of his parents, maybe, but he's simply too foul prone, a poor rebounder, and can't score in the post nor block shots.  I don't care for people saying that he was a 'wimp' or some sexist statement equivalent of 'girly man', like what happened during the playoffs, but he's just not that good, imo.  Even Swedish meatballs has surpassed him in the rotation.  Ugh.  I never understood the selection of Nolynyk and he's quite frustrating to watch, just go look over the game threads from this past season if you don't believe me, lol ;D. The only time where it looked like we might have had something in him was during the final 3 games of his rookie year, so naturally, everyone thought that he would improve in 14-15, only to see him revert to form, unfortunately :-\. Sigh.  Ainge drafts the weirdest players, imo.  A seven footer in KO with t-rex arms, undersized power forwards who may or may not have weight problems, combo guards who can't shoot, and dudes like James Young who don't work hard.  It's like the Island of Misfit Toys of the NBA, lol ;D.

Here are the last 3 games of Nolynyk's rookie year, btw -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE6VoHdgoag (he even crossed Zeller, lol ;D)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWHcL1cqLRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5KXqA5GOd0

But yeah, Tommy, he's going to be like Dirk (sarcasm) ::).

I was active in about 75 regular season game threads this year, and your opinion is nowhere near the consensus you think it is. Most believe that Olynyk, while maddeningly inconsistent, is a very talented and intelligent player, who takes our offense to a different level through spacing, passing, and shot-making. Maybe you're suffering from recency bias since KO was terrible post-injury, but the idea that Olynyk is a bad player is just plain false.

I never said that the opinion in the game threads reflected my view of the guy.  What I said is that many people expressed their frustrations many nights with the guy for being so, well, frustrating to watch, and no, like I said, I'm not taking the postseason into account because of his injury.  That's not fair, imo.  Aside from the first half of game 1 against the Cavs in 2015, though, he hasn't even been able to stay on the court in the playoffs because of his defense and rebounding, I'm assuming.  Surely you remember him spending most of that series on the bench, right? 

And yes, he has made some great passes in his time here.  Maybe not a ton of them, but I'll give the guy credit for that.  He just looks slower than molasses going up a hill in January, unfortunately, lol ;D. Sigh.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2016, 01:11:50 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

I seriously question why you're even a Celtics fan. All that I ever see you do is sarcastically crap all over our players and glorify weird, unproven prospects like Thon Maker or Poeltl, even suggesting we trade Smart to get the number 12 pick to take Poeltl or something...

I'll have you know that I bleed green (sarcasm), lol ;D, but never question my fandom, haha ;D. That said, I'm sorry for the negativity.  Really.  Hopefully a new thread will at least try to offset all of my criticisms, even though I think that they're fair. 

And it was IT and KO for Poeltl at 6 and a combination of trading Crowder to the Hawks for 12 and 21 and then trading said picks to Sacramento for the 8th pick to take Maker, btw.  Given what the Kings ultimately traded for in terms of picks, I think that it was definitely possible to get the Kings' pick.  What say you to that?  Just the pick, mind you, not Maker, as I know that you wanted Chriss, right?

I know that everyone makes fun of me for being interested in undrafted free agents and all that comes with that, but we all have our things, right, lol ;D?  For example, you're the founder of the Marcus Smart fan club, haha. 

Oops, I got sidetracked.  Here's the thread, and I think you'll enjoy it :), and no, I'm not being sarcastic nor criticizing any of our players.  Brb, making thread ;D.

Edit: made thread - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86623.0
I must say, the amount of joy you seem to take in just ripping on Cs players is a bit baffling, but I suppose thats just the writing style.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2016, 01:16:31 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

Basketball.

When he plays in Toronto and/or in front of his parents, maybe, but he's simply too foul prone, a poor rebounder, and can't score in the post nor block shots.  I don't care for people saying that he was a 'wimp' or some sexist statement equivalent of 'girly man', like what happened during the playoffs, but he's just not that good, imo.  Even Swedish meatballs has surpassed him in the rotation.  Ugh.  I never understood the selection of Nolynyk and he's quite frustrating to watch, just go look over the game threads from this past season if you don't believe me, lol ;D. The only time where it looked like we might have had something in him was during the final 3 games of his rookie year, so naturally, everyone thought that he would improve in 14-15, only to see him revert to form, unfortunately :-\. Sigh.  Ainge drafts the weirdest players, imo.  A seven footer in KO with t-rex arms, undersized power forwards who may or may not have weight problems, combo guards who can't shoot, and dudes like James Young who don't work hard.  It's like the Island of Misfit Toys of the NBA, lol ;D.

Here are the last 3 games of Nolynyk's rookie year, btw -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE6VoHdgoag (he even crossed Zeller, lol ;D)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWHcL1cqLRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5KXqA5GOd0

But yeah, Tommy, he's going to be like Dirk (sarcasm) ::).

I was active in about 75 regular season game threads this year, and your opinion is nowhere near the consensus you think it is. Most believe that Olynyk, while maddeningly inconsistent, is a very talented and intelligent player, who takes our offense to a different level through spacing, passing, and shot-making. Maybe you're suffering from recency bias since KO was terrible post-injury, but the idea that Olynyk is a bad player is just plain false.

I never said that the opinion in the game threads reflected my view of the guy.  What I said is that many people expressed their frustrations many nights with the guy for being so, well, frustrating to watch, and no, like I said, I'm not taking the postseason into account because of his injury.  That's not fair, imo.  Aside from the first half of game 1 against the Cavs in 2015, though, he hasn't even been able to stay on the court in the playoffs because of his defense and rebounding, I'm assuming.  Surely you remember him spending most of that series on the bench, right? 

And yes, he has made some great passes in his time here.  Maybe not a ton of them, but I'll give the guy credit for that.  He just looks slower than molasses going up a hill in January, unfortunately, lol ;D. Sigh.
Its not about making a few great passes. Its not about olynyk being able to jump high and stay with guys on the perimeter. When Olynyk is on the court Boston tends to be a better team. This is because he consistently makes the right pass, and is in the right place on both offense and defense.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2016, 01:28:07 AM »

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I must say, the amount of joy you seem to take in just ripping on Cs players is a bit baffling, but I suppose thats just the writing style.

Honestly, I don't take any joy in it, at all, as I find Smart to be infuriating, but I do try to blend criticism with humor so that everything isn't so serious all the time and we don't descend into personal attacks on here.  Is that okay, lol ;D?

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Its not about making a few great passes. Its not about olynyk being able to jump high and stay with guys on the perimeter. When Olynyk is on the court Boston tends to be a better team. This is because he consistently makes the right pass, and is in the right place on both offense and defense.

I'm sure that the advanced stats back this up, in addition to KO's supposed defensive impact, but I don't buy into analytics, for the most part, one, and two, even if the team does function better with him on the floor, it never lasts because of his propensity to get into foul trouble, unfortunately, although he did commit fewer fouls this year, iirc.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2016, 02:22:49 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

I seriously question why you're even a Celtics fan. All that I ever see you do is sarcastically crap all over our players and glorify weird, unproven prospects like Thon Maker or Poeltl, even suggesting we trade Smart to get the number 12 pick to take Poeltl or something...

I'll have you know that I bleed green (sarcasm), lol ;D, but never question my fandom, haha ;D. That said, I'm sorry for the negativity.  Really.  Hopefully a new thread will at least try to offset all of my criticisms, even though I think that they're fair. 

And it was IT and KO for Poeltl at 6 and a combination of trading Crowder to the Hawks for 12 and 21 and then trading said picks to Sacramento for the 8th pick to take Maker, btw.  Given what the Kings ultimately traded for in terms of picks, I think that it was definitely possible to get the Kings' pick.  What say you to that?  Just the pick, mind you, not Maker, as I know that you wanted Chriss, right?

I know that everyone makes fun of me for being interested in undrafted free agents and all that comes with that, but we all have our things, right, lol ;D?  For example, you're the founder of the Marcus Smart fan club, haha. 

Oops, I got sidetracked.  Here's the thread, and I think you'll enjoy it :), and no, I'm not being sarcastic nor criticizing any of our players.  Brb, making thread ;D.

Edit: made thread - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86623.0
I must say, the amount of joy you seem to take in just ripping on Cs players is a bit baffling, but I suppose thats just the writing style.

You can't pay attention to Mr. Emoji or value any of his opinions. Here's a guy that wanted to get rid of Crowder at any cost and unfathomly thinks the non-talented youtuber in his signature is "awesome", all of course littered with all his childish emoji's. Enough said.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2016, 02:34:06 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

I seriously question why you're even a Celtics fan. All that I ever see you do is sarcastically crap all over our players and glorify weird, unproven prospects like Thon Maker or Poeltl, even suggesting we trade Smart to get the number 12 pick to take Poeltl or something...

I'll have you know that I bleed green (sarcasm), lol ;D, but never question my fandom, haha ;D. That said, I'm sorry for the negativity.  Really.  Hopefully a new thread will at least try to offset all of my criticisms, even though I think that they're fair. 

And it was IT and KO for Poeltl at 6 and a combination of trading Crowder to the Hawks for 12 and 21 and then trading said picks to Sacramento for the 8th pick to take Maker, btw.  Given what the Kings ultimately traded for in terms of picks, I think that it was definitely possible to get the Kings' pick.  What say you to that?  Just the pick, mind you, not Maker, as I know that you wanted Chriss, right?

I know that everyone makes fun of me for being interested in undrafted free agents and all that comes with that, but we all have our things, right, lol ;D?  For example, you're the founder of the Marcus Smart fan club, haha. 

Oops, I got sidetracked.  Here's the thread, and I think you'll enjoy it :), and no, I'm not being sarcastic nor criticizing any of our players.  Brb, making thread ;D.

Edit: made thread - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86623.0
I must say, the amount of joy you seem to take in just ripping on Cs players is a bit baffling, but I suppose thats just the writing style.

You can't pay attention to Mr. Emoji or value any of his opinions. Here's a guy that wanted to get rid of Crowder at any cost and unfathomly thinks the non-talented youtuber in his signature is "awesome", all of course littered with all his childish emoji's. Enough said.

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Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2016, 02:53:09 AM »

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Big year for KO.

Please, god, also make it the last year, lol ;D.

Why? He may not be dominant or a star, but KO is very good.

At what, lol ;D?  Shooting 3s when he's able to stay out of his own way?

I seriously question why you're even a Celtics fan. All that I ever see you do is sarcastically crap all over our players and glorify weird, unproven prospects like Thon Maker or Poeltl, even suggesting we trade Smart to get the number 12 pick to take Poeltl or something...

I'll have you know that I bleed green (sarcasm), lol ;D, but never question my fandom, haha ;D. That said, I'm sorry for the negativity.  Really.  Hopefully a new thread will at least try to offset all of my criticisms, even though I think that they're fair. 

And it was IT and KO for Poeltl at 6 and a combination of trading Crowder to the Hawks for 12 and 21 and then trading said picks to Sacramento for the 8th pick to take Maker, btw.  Given what the Kings ultimately traded for in terms of picks, I think that it was definitely possible to get the Kings' pick.  What say you to that?  Just the pick, mind you, not Maker, as I know that you wanted Chriss, right?

I know that everyone makes fun of me for being interested in undrafted free agents and all that comes with that, but we all have our things, right, lol ;D?  For example, you're the founder of the Marcus Smart fan club, haha. 

Oops, I got sidetracked.  Here's the thread, and I think you'll enjoy it :), and no, I'm not being sarcastic nor criticizing any of our players.  Brb, making thread ;D.

Edit: made thread - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86623.0
I must say, the amount of joy you seem to take in just ripping on Cs players is a bit baffling, but I suppose thats just the writing style.

You can't pay attention to Mr. Emoji or value any of his opinions. Here's a guy that wanted to get rid of Crowder at any cost and unfathomly thinks the non-talented youtuber in his signature is "awesome", all of course littered with all his childish emoji's. Enough said.

I feel like I write this to you once a month now, but why? How does that contribute to the thread? It's silly.
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Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2016, 02:53:50 AM »

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It's funny because I am currently playing 2k with our current roster.  I know 2k doesn't necessarily translate into reality, but it is interesting that I encountered many potentially realistic problems with the personnel combination. I had to change the starting line up many times, inserting Kelly, Amir, JJ, and even Brown.  Each had its pros and cons. 

I originally started with Amir, which was fine for the starting line up.  But the bench suffered big time with rebounds.  Kelly and JJ could not get a single defensive rebound as the bigs and the defense had zero shot blocking or shot altering.

Then I started Kelly and moved Amir to the bench.  Once again, the starting line up was fine, and offense was even better actually with Kelly picking and popping.  The bench with Amir, however, seriously lacked shooting.  The Rozier, Smart, Brown, JJ, and Amir combination struggled to score points as JJ was the only reliable 3 point shooter.  The rebounding wasn't that great either. 

Then, I tried JJ as the starter.  This combination was very similar to the Kelly combination but I think it worked out a little better for the starters and bench combined. 

I finally started the small ball line up with Brown and Crowder as the 3 and 4.  I really liked this combination as our bench now had JJ, Kelly, and Amir and were playing great.  Brown did well as a starter too, but maybe the created version is a little further along in the development than real life.  I do think the creator that uploaded him made it pretty realistic as he is athletic, but has a sketchy jumpshot.  I mainly liked this lineup as well because I can get Smart his stats on the bench without trying to make sure Brown gets enough stats.  haha. 

In summary, I think all of the combinations have some pros and cons.  I think we really need to pick up a defensive big man so that we can use any combination and still make sure that our bench has the right mix of shooting, defense, etc. 

Aside from a defensive big man, I think if we can get Terrence Jones cheap and healthy, it really would be the perfect fit as he can block shots and shoot 3s. 






Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2016, 03:04:58 AM »

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It's funny because I am currently playing 2k with our current roster.  I know 2k doesn't necessarily translate into reality, but it is interesting that I encountered many potentially realistic problems with the personnel combination. I had to change the starting line up many times, inserting Kelly, Amir, JJ, and even Brown.  Each had its pros and cons. 

I originally started with Amir, which was fine for the starting line up.  But the bench suffered big time with rebounds.  Kelly and JJ could not get a single defensive rebound as the bigs and the defense had zero shot blocking or shot altering.

Then I started Kelly and moved Amir to the bench.  Once again, the starting line up was fine, and offense was even better actually with Kelly picking and popping.  The bench with Amir, however, seriously lacked shooting.  The Rozier, Smart, Brown, JJ, and Amir combination struggled to score points as JJ was the only reliable 3 point shooter.  The rebounding wasn't that great either. 

Then, I tried JJ as the starter.  This combination was very similar to the Kelly combination but I think it worked out a little better for the starters and bench combined. 

I finally started the small ball line up with Brown and Crowder as the 3 and 4.  I really liked this combination as our bench now had JJ, Kelly, and Amir and were playing great.  Brown did well as a starter too, but maybe the created version is a little further along in the development than real life.  I do think the creator that uploaded him made it pretty realistic as he is athletic, but has a sketchy jumpshot.  I mainly liked this lineup as well because I can get Smart his stats on the bench without trying to make sure Brown gets enough stats.  haha. 

In summary, I think all of the combinations have some pros and cons.  I think we really need to pick up a defensive big man so that we can use any combination and still make sure that our bench has the right mix of shooting, defense, etc. 

Aside from a defensive big man, I think if we can get Terrence Jones cheap and healthy, it really would be the perfect fit as he can block shots and shoot 3s.

He recently signed with the Pelicans.  Just thought you should know.  I haven't played 2K in a long time.  Are you playing it on xbox or a pc, etc.?

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2016, 03:10:41 AM »

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It's funny because I am currently playing 2k with our current roster.  I know 2k doesn't necessarily translate into reality, but it is interesting that I encountered many potentially realistic problems with the personnel combination. I had to change the starting line up many times, inserting Kelly, Amir, JJ, and even Brown.  Each had its pros and cons. 

I originally started with Amir, which was fine for the starting line up.  But the bench suffered big time with rebounds.  Kelly and JJ could not get a single defensive rebound as the bigs and the defense had zero shot blocking or shot altering.

Then I started Kelly and moved Amir to the bench.  Once again, the starting line up was fine, and offense was even better actually with Kelly picking and popping.  The bench with Amir, however, seriously lacked shooting.  The Rozier, Smart, Brown, JJ, and Amir combination struggled to score points as JJ was the only reliable 3 point shooter.  The rebounding wasn't that great either. 

Then, I tried JJ as the starter.  This combination was very similar to the Kelly combination but I think it worked out a little better for the starters and bench combined. 

I finally started the small ball line up with Brown and Crowder as the 3 and 4.  I really liked this combination as our bench now had JJ, Kelly, and Amir and were playing great.  Brown did well as a starter too, but maybe the created version is a little further along in the development than real life.  I do think the creator that uploaded him made it pretty realistic as he is athletic, but has a sketchy jumpshot.  I mainly liked this lineup as well because I can get Smart his stats on the bench without trying to make sure Brown gets enough stats.  haha. 

In summary, I think all of the combinations have some pros and cons.  I think we really need to pick up a defensive big man so that we can use any combination and still make sure that our bench has the right mix of shooting, defense, etc. 

Aside from a defensive big man, I think if we can get Terrence Jones cheap and healthy, it really would be the perfect fit as he can block shots and shoot 3s.

He recently signed with the Pelicans.  Just thought you should know.  I haven't played 2K in a long time.  Are you playing it on xbox or a pc, etc.?

[dang], he signed with the Pelicans huh.   

I'm playing on ps4.  I found some draft class made by some dude named EmbraceThePace and its pretty accurate.  I tried to update all the rosters for each team after simulating one season. 

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2016, 03:14:05 AM »

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It's funny because I am currently playing 2k with our current roster.  I know 2k doesn't necessarily translate into reality, but it is interesting that I encountered many potentially realistic problems with the personnel combination. I had to change the starting line up many times, inserting Kelly, Amir, JJ, and even Brown.  Each had its pros and cons. 

I originally started with Amir, which was fine for the starting line up.  But the bench suffered big time with rebounds.  Kelly and JJ could not get a single defensive rebound as the bigs and the defense had zero shot blocking or shot altering.

Then I started Kelly and moved Amir to the bench.  Once again, the starting line up was fine, and offense was even better actually with Kelly picking and popping.  The bench with Amir, however, seriously lacked shooting.  The Rozier, Smart, Brown, JJ, and Amir combination struggled to score points as JJ was the only reliable 3 point shooter.  The rebounding wasn't that great either. 

Then, I tried JJ as the starter.  This combination was very similar to the Kelly combination but I think it worked out a little better for the starters and bench combined. 

I finally started the small ball line up with Brown and Crowder as the 3 and 4.  I really liked this combination as our bench now had JJ, Kelly, and Amir and were playing great.  Brown did well as a starter too, but maybe the created version is a little further along in the development than real life.  I do think the creator that uploaded him made it pretty realistic as he is athletic, but has a sketchy jumpshot.  I mainly liked this lineup as well because I can get Smart his stats on the bench without trying to make sure Brown gets enough stats.  haha. 

In summary, I think all of the combinations have some pros and cons.  I think we really need to pick up a defensive big man so that we can use any combination and still make sure that our bench has the right mix of shooting, defense, etc. 

Aside from a defensive big man, I think if we can get Terrence Jones cheap and healthy, it really would be the perfect fit as he can block shots and shoot 3s.

He recently signed with the Pelicans.  Just thought you should know.  I haven't played 2K in a long time.  Are you playing it on xbox or a pc, etc.?

[dang], he signed with the Pelicans huh.   

I'm playing on ps4.  I found some draft class made by some dude named EmbraceThePace and its pretty accurate.  I tried to update all the rosters for each team after simulating one season.

Interesting.  I've never been a big gamer, but just thought I'd ask.

Re: Horford and KO as starters
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2016, 03:15:39 AM »

Offline sirnastee

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It's funny because I am currently playing 2k with our current roster.  I know 2k doesn't necessarily translate into reality, but it is interesting that I encountered many potentially realistic problems with the personnel combination. I had to change the starting line up many times, inserting Kelly, Amir, JJ, and even Brown.  Each had its pros and cons. 

I originally started with Amir, which was fine for the starting line up.  But the bench suffered big time with rebounds.  Kelly and JJ could not get a single defensive rebound as the bigs and the defense had zero shot blocking or shot altering.

Then I started Kelly and moved Amir to the bench.  Once again, the starting line up was fine, and offense was even better actually with Kelly picking and popping.  The bench with Amir, however, seriously lacked shooting.  The Rozier, Smart, Brown, JJ, and Amir combination struggled to score points as JJ was the only reliable 3 point shooter.  The rebounding wasn't that great either. 

Then, I tried JJ as the starter.  This combination was very similar to the Kelly combination but I think it worked out a little better for the starters and bench combined. 

I finally started the small ball line up with Brown and Crowder as the 3 and 4.  I really liked this combination as our bench now had JJ, Kelly, and Amir and were playing great.  Brown did well as a starter too, but maybe the created version is a little further along in the development than real life.  I do think the creator that uploaded him made it pretty realistic as he is athletic, but has a sketchy jumpshot.  I mainly liked this lineup as well because I can get Smart his stats on the bench without trying to make sure Brown gets enough stats.  haha. 

In summary, I think all of the combinations have some pros and cons.  I think we really need to pick up a defensive big man so that we can use any combination and still make sure that our bench has the right mix of shooting, defense, etc. 

Aside from a defensive big man, I think if we can get Terrence Jones cheap and healthy, it really would be the perfect fit as he can block shots and shoot 3s.

He recently signed with the Pelicans.  Just thought you should know.  I haven't played 2K in a long time.  Are you playing it on xbox or a pc, etc.?

[dang], he signed with the Pelicans huh.   

I'm playing on ps4.  I found some draft class made by some dude named EmbraceThePace and its pretty accurate.  I tried to update all the rosters for each team after simulating one season.

Wow, he signed for 1 year near the league minimum?????????  I wonder what is wrong with him, healthwise.  I know he didn't have a good year last year, but I think it would be a worth taking a shot at him.  If he plays like he did two years ago, he and Anthony Davis would be a nice combo.