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Thank you James Young for making the Celtics a better team
« on: July 18, 2016, 03:44:12 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Which perspective do you choose? Today I choose the path of appreciation for James Young's laziness, poor work ethic and total contentment for just making the NBA.

 I believe the James Young #17 selection in the first round has had the biggest impact on Ainge in all the years he's been in Boston.

 Smart, Rozier, Crowder and this year.

 Horford. Model citizen. Great leader. Perfect veteran example.

 Brown just a fantastic young man
 Ante Zizic, tireless worker, was working for himself at the Age of Eight years old.

 Yabu although lacking fundamentals, seems to have a very good motor. I don't anticipate any more lazy, poor work ethic selections or acquisitions any time soon.

 If you have not read Bulpett's article on Young worth the read.

LAS VEGAS — If James Young does not make it in the NBA, the problem will likely not be his latent ability to play the game but rather his desire to do so.

Young’s talent comes in flashes, but, even as he approaches his 21st birthday, there is the strong belief the 6-foot-6 wing should be further along in his development two years after

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 03:45:42 AM »

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 Here is the restof the article.

There were whispers of a poor work ethic at the start, but Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge defended Young, saying, “James has made strides. He’s better today than he was two years ago.”

Still, there are some who question just how important basketball is to him, and, unfortunately, this is not an unheard of situation among certain young players in this league.

For many, it can simply be a matter of not “getting it.” Others get caught up in the lifestyle.

In a conversation not related to Young, Ainge discussed the issue of players failing to seize the opportunity and being pushed out when everything about their talent states they should have a prosperous career.

“I’ve seen that for 35 years in the NBA,” Ainge said. “They don’t understand the urgency. They feel like they’ve made it, and they don’t understand that staying in the NBA should be their objective and not just making it here.”

Each draft is littered with high picks that never pan out. Some spent their lives since grade school dreaming of getting to the NBA and putting in the countless hours in the grind that is required to thread the statistical needle and make a professional roster.

But it has to be about more than simply reaching that goal. Teams generally draft based on physical abilities, though much more research is now done on players’ personalities and personal habits.

But whereas clubs still look first at the skills, they know, too, that it is the players with the burning desire to be great that wind up as the stars.

At 5-9, the fact Isaiah Thomas was even drafted, albeit with the final pick, was a major accomplishment. Since then, however, he has been almost maniacal in his desire to improve, an approach that made him an All-Star this past season.

“There’s all different levels,” said Ainge. “There are guys like Isaiah that are just driven, but some guys aren’t like that. Living the NBA lifestyle and enjoying it is fine, but it has to be about a lot more than that if you want to stay and really succeed. There are some guys that just don’t even understand how hard you have to work.

“I remember I always felt like I was the hardest worker my whole life on every team I ever played on in high school and college and all that. Then I got to the NBA and I saw, wow, there’s people that work even harder than me, so that was a good example.

“I saw that, and I think there are a lot of young players in the NBA that are able to see what they have to do to become good and great and to stay and last, and they pick up on it and they do it. Some people listen to the veterans. Some people listen to the coaches. Some don’t. Some just don’t get it. They’re just not paying attention.

“Everybody has different levels of commitment and listening.”

The failure to buy in completely to all NBA requirements may have been part of the problem with former Celtic Jared Sullinger, who produced good numbers but was allowed to walk away to Toronto as a free agent. As John Lucas, who spent last summer training Sullinger, was quoted here as saying, “He’s still fighting anybody and everybody about who knows best. He’ll give in to a point, but he won’t . . . let . . . go. And if he’d ever just let go and accept what people are telling him, I think he can be great.”

The Celtics will have a decision to make on Young. He is guaranteed $1,825,200 this year on his rookie contract, and, considering the new and greatly enlarged salary cap and the positive steps he has taken, they will almost certainly pick up the $2,803,507 option for 2017-18.

But there are larger questions for Young and every other young player to answer when they arrive in the NBA.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 03:55:21 AM »

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i imagine he might not make it with the celts, but will go play somewhere else for awhile and if he figures out how to make it a job he'll end up back in the nba.  like gerald green.   drafting these kids and giving them money is always a risk. 

i try to remember what i was doing at 20 and wow,  i'm surprised more of them don't Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. it up.   that's so freaking young to learn how to be a professional for lots of people.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 05:22:56 AM »

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This is either a "this is why we released this guy" preemptive strike or a "we've tried everything we can to motivate him and it hasn't worked, now we'll try knocking him publicly" attempt. What bothers me is you'd think personality, work ethic is something they'd be able to scout a little better before the draft. Young was supposed to be talented and I guess it was still a value pick at 17, but I don't think he was so much more of a talent that you take him over some guys like Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, etc.

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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 05:47:17 AM »

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Any normal people would dream of earning at least James Young's salary. If he is wise off the court, he will spend it wisely and just continue his college. Some people might never get it despite the flashes of talent. If he wants to continue playing in the league, he need to improve as a player. But sadly, I don't see any drive on this kid. Maybe a different environment will give him motivation.

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 07:12:34 AM »

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I for one, like that Ainge and the Celtics are holding people more accountable.   Great post!  TP!

Some of this stuff is inexcusable on many levels in terms of being a professional athlete.   I think we had our example this year but looks like we may get another example.  I was not too pleased with some of our veteran summer league guys.   Rozier looked great but Young was all over the place.  Hunter was shooting better then the hand injury and Mickey's shoulder, but I thought they should have played better at some points.

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I saw the thread title and thought he had been released and the OP was sincere.  Turns out to be sarcasm.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 02:19:02 PM »

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 It wasn't really sarcasm, I choose to look at it positivity that Young is a Lazy bum.

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2016, 02:23:32 PM »

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And this is why you should appreciate bulldogs like:

Smart
Bradley
Crowder
Rozier
Brown
Thomas
Zizic
Yabu

They are not waiting for something to happen...they are clawing, scratching, and fighting to make something happen.

« Last Edit: July 18, 2016, 02:33:22 PM by The One »

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Offline KG Living Legend

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And this is why you should appreciate bulldogs like:

Smart
Bradley
Crowder
Rozier
Brown
Thomas
Zizic
Yabu

They are not waiting for something to happen...they are clawing, scratching, and fighting to make something happen.



 I like to refer to them as the Wolfpack ;D

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2016, 03:27:10 PM »

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I usually don't like it when people make the judgements I am about to make, but... that bandaid on his nose during summer league tells me all I need to know about how seriously he takes his job.

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 03:42:03 PM »

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bbiq is not easily fixed with hard physical work.  And it's also not easily fixed with watching lots of film.  It's a hard thing to fix period.  I'm sure he could go score a lot on the Sixers, but he really needs to mature and spend a few years in another league before he'll be ready to please a coach like Stevens (and most other NBA coaches).  Hope he proves everyone wrong. 

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KG---  tommy point for that article--hard work and determination, it is difficult for us to know who is putting in the work and who is not.  The quote from John Lucas on Sullinger is very telling.  Seems a shame to spend that money on Young which takes away an opportunity from guys that really made the most of the summer and look like they want it -- Nader & Miller for example.
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Explains a lot

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Nothing like making excuses till the end ::). Since when did the Celtics become the Salvation Army.  Stop taking these project good citizens and get some [dang] players that know how to ply the game.